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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
May 18 2017 08:14 GMT
#1
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Code S group selections took place on Wednesday and it was the usual hectic fun!
(P)Stats (Z)soO (P)herO (T)aLive had the task of picking first with these the number one seeds!
Stats picked himself (P)Trap to join him in Group A
soO gave himself a mirror match up with (Z)Losira for Group D
herO decided to follow suit and gave himself (P)Dear for Group C
aLive however, decided to mix things up and picked (P)Classic to join him in Group B


Round 2 picks next, starting with Losira in Group D. He went for a wild swing and picked out (T)Maru ! The earliest he has been picked up in these selections for a very long time!
Next Group C and Dear's turn to pick. He went for a Zerg in (Z)Rogue to join him.
Then came Chintoss' pick for Group B and he went for (T)GuMiho
Group A to complete round 2 picks and that was Trap's decision. He picked (Z)ByuL!

Final pick round now! It was back to starting with Group A, so before he had chance to get settled in, ByuL was back up picking. He also wasted no time in raising eyebrows as he picked (T)TY!
Gumiho's turn for the limelight now as he was picking the last played for Group B, he also decided to go big...picking the robot himself (T)INnoVation
Group C and Rogue came up next. He also completed the big 3 terran picks by taking (T)ByuN with him
Finally Maru had just (Z)Dark left to chose and join him over in a packed Group D

It wasn't over yet though! As (P)Stats with his group currently at Stats-Trap-ByuL-TY, was going to swap any two people.
He decided after much deliberation to take (T)TY out of his group and swap him with (T)GuMiho in Group B!

Meaning after a few hours, we had our full Round of 16 set for Season 2 of the GSL!









Poll: Group of Death?

Group aLive! (207)
 
66%

Group soO! (54)
 
17%

There isn't one! (28)
 
9%

Group Stats! (18)
 
6%

Group herO! (9)
 
3%

316 total votes

Your vote: Group of Death?

(Vote): Group Stats!
(Vote): Group aLive!
(Vote): Group herO!
(Vote): Group soO!
(Vote): There isn't one!

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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 18 2017 08:24 GMT
#2
Im gonna guess

Group A: Stats/ByuL

Group B: Classic/TY

Group C: ByuN/herO

Group D: SoO/Dark
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
May 18 2017 08:43 GMT
#3
Poor Classic, stay strong!
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XiZeL
Profile Joined July 2014
Switzerland92 Posts
May 18 2017 08:49 GMT
#4
RIP Maru
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yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
May 18 2017 09:00 GMT
#5
On May 18 2017 17:49 XiZeL wrote:
RIP Maru

Didn't he get the only race he's good against right now?
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
May 18 2017 09:01 GMT
#6
On May 18 2017 18:00 yht9657 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 17:49 XiZeL wrote:
RIP Maru

Didn't he get the only race he's good against right now?


yes


I'm so pissed for INnoVation, ending up with two terran, and not any terran, TY and Alive T_T
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Ja.Y.
Profile Joined February 2015
United States253 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 09:06:28
May 18 2017 09:06 GMT
#7
On May 18 2017 17:24 Zaros wrote:
Im gonna guess

Group A: Stats/ByuL

Group B: Classic/TY

Group C: ByuN/herO

Group D: SoO/Dark


I think aLive has a strong possibility to get out of his group, if he can TvT his heart out like it's IEM Katowice and WoL. And, don't think he would've picked Classic unless he felt confident in TvP. Then, I haven't been watching many VODs and tournament streams as of late so I'm out of the loop on where these players are currently.

Group A: Stats/GuMiho

Group B: Classic/aLive

Group C: ByuN/Dear

Group D: Maru/soO
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MoonyD
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia191 Posts
May 18 2017 09:45 GMT
#8
Jesus... Group B is just insane right now.

I'm curious as to why a ton players chose to go with mirror match ups though.
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Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1961 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 10:42:11
May 18 2017 09:51 GMT
#9
Way too early prediction: Final is going to be ByuL vs soO. soO is going to get there by advancing in first then beating herO and INnoVation. ByuL is making the finals by advancing in first and beating TY and Dark. soO wins in the battle of Kongs.
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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
May 18 2017 10:13 GMT
#10
As much as I'm quite fine with this scenario, I'm not optimistic with it :/

I'm afraid Maru might be able to take a spot (maybe even the first place?) from the tried-to-be Zerg group, his play is very inconsistent, but not as if he were bad anyway. This would only leave one place for soO, Dark, or Losira


By the way, who was the English caster/translator for the group selection? It was very nice to follow, very fluent and dynamic!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 18 2017 10:19 GMT
#11
On May 18 2017 18:51 mizenhauer wrote:
Way too early prediction: Final is going to be ByuL vs soO. soO is going to get there by advancing in first then beating herO and Dark. ByuL is making the finals by advancing in first and beating TY and INnoVation. soO wins in the battle of Kongs.


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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
May 18 2017 10:21 GMT
#12
aLive beats Inno, Losira is the wildcard
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SSMMA
Profile Joined February 2016
15 Posts
May 18 2017 10:22 GMT
#13
A : Stats + Byul
B : Alive + Inno
C : Hero + Byun
D : Maru + Dark
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 10:30:48
May 18 2017 10:30 GMT
#14
On May 18 2017 19:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 18:51 mizenhauer wrote:
Way too early prediction: Final is going to be ByuL vs soO. soO is going to get there by advancing in first then beating herO and Dark. ByuL is making the finals by advancing in first and beating TY and INnoVation. soO wins in the battle of Kongs.


The world needs this to happen

It won't, TY/Inno and soO/Dark have to be separated in the bracket.
On May 18 2017 19:13 AbouSV wrote:
By the way, who was the English caster/translator for the group selection? It was very nice to follow, very fluent and dynamic!

https://twitter.com/JoeISophie
Did a great job indeed.
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Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1961 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 10:42:59
May 18 2017 10:38 GMT
#15
On May 18 2017 19:30 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 19:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On May 18 2017 18:51 mizenhauer wrote:
Way too early prediction: Final is going to be ByuL vs soO. soO is going to get there by advancing in first then beating herO and Dark. ByuL is making the finals by advancing in first and beating TY and INnoVation. soO wins in the battle of Kongs.


The world needs this to happen

It won't, TY/Inno and soO/Dark have to be separated in the bracket.
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 19:13 AbouSV wrote:
By the way, who was the English caster/translator for the group selection? It was very nice to follow, very fluent and dynamic!

https://twitter.com/JoeISophie
Did a great job indeed.


Rip I misread how the groups were broken down for r8.

EDIT: Edited to accommodate proper bracketing. Final stays the same, only one match differs for each player.
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zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
May 18 2017 10:41 GMT
#16
On May 18 2017 18:06 Ja.Y. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 17:24 Zaros wrote:
Im gonna guess

Group A: Stats/ByuL

Group B: Classic/TY

Group C: ByuN/herO

Group D: SoO/Dark


I think aLive has a strong possibility to get out of his group, if he can TvT his heart out like it's IEM Katowice and WoL. And, don't think he would've picked Classic unless he felt confident in TvP. Then, I haven't been watching many VODs and tournament streams as of late so I'm out of the loop on where these players are currently.

Group A: Stats/GuMiho

Group B: Classic/aLive

Group C: ByuN/Dear

Group D: Maru/soO


Dang those are some bold predictions. Guessing Dear will be first eliminated from his group, and I have a hard time imagining anyone other than Stats and ByuL getting out of GuMiho's group. I would love to see some upsets though! Good luck!
c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 10:56:31
May 18 2017 10:54 GMT
#17
Things that will surprise people that shouldnt:

1. innovation won't survive this group
2. maru won't survive this group
3. if losira wins his first match against soo and maru falls to Dark (very possible), its very likely he can get by on his zvz and zvp until the semis or finals. losira has the easiest path to the finals possible right now
4. stats vs trap should be very competitive. lets also remember that Trap has not lost a televised pvp series since february
5. this is probably one of the most competitive seasons ever in code S and i could be very wrong about predictions. tbh anything can happen in these groups

the hype is so fucking unfathomable and its all totally deserved
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On May 18 2017 18:45 MoonyD wrote:
Jesus... Group B is just insane right now.

I'm curious as to why a ton players chose to go with mirror match ups though.



its how u get deep in tournaments like this

tvt he can only build the same shit as you, so thats already a huge sigh of relief. if youre the better player, 9/10 times ur confident in the mirror and will beat a lesser player (esp zvz and tvt)
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1961 Posts
May 18 2017 11:02 GMT
#18
On May 18 2017 19:54 c0sm0naut wrote:


its how u get deep in tournaments like this

tvt he can only build the same shit as you, so thats already a huge sigh of relief. if youre the better player, 9/10 times ur confident in the mirror and will beat a lesser player (esp zvz and tvt)


That's not why at all. Stats picked Trap because Trap was considered the weakest player. Same goes for soO with Losira (ZvZ being soO's strongest matchup doesn't hurt either). Dear is very bad at PvP and now you start to understand the real reasons so many of the early picks resulted in mirror matchups. As for group B, it is favorable for Classic to pick a Terran since there was already a Terran in the group (and GuMiho was one of the weakest players remaining (this also means his practice is more efficient)). Once you get to the last four players it's really a matter of personal preference. Everyone is really good at that point.
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 11:03:21
May 18 2017 11:03 GMT
#19
why do u think Maru won't survive his group? he got only single matchup to practise, that's much more easier preparations in comparison to zerg foes in this group
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 18 2017 11:05 GMT
#20
On May 18 2017 19:54 c0sm0naut wrote:
lets also remember that Trap has not lost a televised pvp series since february

The grandiose sample size of 1 televised PvP series since February makes that way less impressive.
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IArako
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany195 Posts
May 18 2017 11:14 GMT
#21
Group A: Stats/Byul

Group B: InnoVation/aLive

Group C: herO/ByuN

Group D: soO/Dark
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Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1961 Posts
May 18 2017 11:23 GMT
#22
On May 18 2017 20:03 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
why do u think Maru won't survive his group? he got only single matchup to practise, that's much more easier preparations in comparison to zerg foes in this group


Maru might have to play Dark twice. Dark is by far his most difficult opponent in that group.
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DERASTAT
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany99 Posts
May 18 2017 11:26 GMT
#23
On May 18 2017 18:51 mizenhauer wrote:
Way too early prediction: Final is going to be ByuL vs soO. soO is going to get there by advancing in first then beating herO and INnoVation. ByuL is making the finals by advancing in first and beating TY and Dark. soO wins in the battle of Kongs.

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Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
May 18 2017 12:41 GMT
#24
Everytime B is the group of death

Type B for Death. :D
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
May 18 2017 12:45 GMT
#25
Whomever you like, sOs will get at least to the semifinal. Well, OK, maybe not. But how will he win BlizzCon in this odd year when he does not win GSL?

I am suprised, how are the relationships in Splyce. When Stats intentionally puts his teammate against Innovation.

Easy road for Maru, very entertaining group for Rogue and group of Death for those three terrans. Poor Classic.
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pNRG
Profile Joined February 2012
United States333 Posts
May 18 2017 12:47 GMT
#26
Whatever gaps there might be in skill or current form, Classic & Maru only have to prepare 1 match-up for this round. Should certainly help them. Although Classic is in a group of absolute killers. Losira might be the weakest player of the 8 in question, but he is a wily veteran.
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
May 18 2017 12:48 GMT
#27
Group A: Stats/ByuL

Group B: Bogus/TY

Group C: ByuN/Rogue

Group D: Maru/Dark
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 18 2017 13:00 GMT
#28
Group A: ByuL/Stats
Group B: Innovation/Classic
Group C: Rogue/herO
Group D: Maru/soO
Ryu3600
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada470 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 13:38:59
May 18 2017 13:35 GMT
#29
I really hope Maru comes out destroying in his group, I really need all the TvZ reference I can get ;D

Edit: This is a really sexy round of 16 group for the GSL I look super forward to it OwO
Maru is the best Terran ever.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 18 2017 14:15 GMT
#30
All these mirrors are kinda sad ..
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Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
May 18 2017 15:08 GMT
#31
I wonder what the maps pool for this Ro16. Anyone knows?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 18 2017 15:13 GMT
#32
On May 19 2017 00:08 Vutalisk wrote:
I wonder what the maps pool for this Ro16. Anyone knows?

From my understanding it's Abyssal - Ascension to Aiur - Frost - Newkirk - Odyssey - Proxima - Whirlwind, though I may have misunderstood what it says on their site.
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Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 15:36:29
May 18 2017 15:36 GMT
#33
On May 19 2017 00:13 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2017 00:08 Vutalisk wrote:
I wonder what the maps pool for this Ro16. Anyone knows?

From my understanding it's Abyssal - Ascension to Aiur - Frost - Newkirk - Odyssey - Proxima - Whirlwind, though I may have misunderstood what it says on their site.

Cool, thanks. I just saw on their post and basically said they added 2 new maps AtoA and Odyssey. The rest I have no idea as I can't read Korean. I was hoping they would replace Whirlwind with something else but oh well it is fine I guess.
bansheeallin1
Profile Joined May 2017
2 Posts
May 18 2017 15:38 GMT
#34
Again a Group of death for Innovation...will his bad Luck ever end?????? Nevertheless he is used to win, especially when it gets really tough. I rember clearly how he won his last GSL title beating some of his nemesis and surviving the group of death once again. It might seem forlorn this time once more, but I hope for the best.
Till the next group nomination the Robot should get some good advice from HerO to turn his fate :-).
TsogiMaster
Profile Joined October 2014
191 Posts
May 18 2017 16:38 GMT
#35
On May 18 2017 21:45 Diabolique wrote:
Whomever you like, sOs will get at least to the semifinal. Well, OK, maybe not. But how will he win BlizzCon in this odd year when he does not win GSL?

I am suprised, how are the relationships in Splyce. When Stats intentionally puts his teammate against Innovation.

Easy road for Maru, very entertaining group for Rogue and group of Death for those three terrans. Poor Classic.


sOs?
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ClaudeSc2
Profile Joined May 2014
United States73 Posts
May 18 2017 16:50 GMT
#36
Byun stoppable should have more time to find himself, considering he has the weakest group by a longshot.
lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
May 18 2017 18:27 GMT
#37
I recognize these names but I don't know who is good anymore...
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Haighstrom
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom215 Posts
May 18 2017 18:44 GMT
#38
Link to the group selection VOD.
jedi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
United States172 Posts
May 18 2017 18:55 GMT
#39
INnoVation is not going to make it out of that group sadly. His TvT seems to be his downfall
SpartanFoL
Profile Joined May 2017
19 Posts
May 18 2017 20:04 GMT
#40
Am new to the world scene here.

Stats is the first seed? And are they doing a roundrobin of 4? As in stats will vs all of the 3 people or at least the winners?

And stats or the first seeds would pick worse players to be in his group or pool?

Can someone give me a grandma explanation of how the pool system works for the B.net tournaments as well as these world gsl hot 6 tournaments?
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
May 18 2017 20:57 GMT
#41
Stats/Byul
Innovation/TY
herO/Byun
Maru/Dark

The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 21:01:49
May 18 2017 21:01 GMT
#42
On May 19 2017 05:04 SpartanFoL wrote:
Am new to the world scene here.

Stats is the first seed? And are they doing a roundrobin of 4? As in stats will vs all of the 3 people or at least the winners?

And stats or the first seeds would pick worse players to be in his group or pool?

Can someone give me a grandma explanation of how the pool system works for the B.net tournaments as well as these world gsl hot 6 tournaments?


GSL style groups aren't round robin, it's dual tournament format instead.
So each group is basically this tree:

[image loading]

In general you get points for doing well in GSL and the players with the most points are the highest seeded. So yeah in theory you want to pick weak players because it obviously increases your chances of advancing.

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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
May 19 2017 20:58 GMT
#43
savage soo just went for the weakest person and picked losira. i can't believe losira even made it into the RO16 he's still relevant???? or did losira get tons better
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 19 2017 21:05 GMT
#44
Because ro32 is weak
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-19 23:26:32
May 19 2017 23:23 GMT
#45
On May 20 2017 05:58 fishjie wrote:
savage soo just went for the weakest person and picked losira. i can't believe losira even made it into the RO16 he's still relevant???? or did losira get tons better


He's actually quite good. He beat impact and sOs to get ro16 (not that thats saying much)

On May 20 2017 06:05 DieuCure wrote:
Because ro32 is weak


Creator, zest, ryung, solar, patience, sOs, keen, major, scarlett, bunny, and trust all went out in ro32. I wouldn't call that weak. You can argue none of them are ro8 material or anything but they're still very strong. I reckon most of them could win a foreigner cup if they transferred over.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 20 2017 01:23 GMT
#46
On May 20 2017 06:05 DieuCure wrote:
Because ro32 is weak


It's weak, but Losira is underrated. Guy was making ro16+ all year back in 2013 which I'd say was one of the highest skill eras.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-20 06:26:05
May 20 2017 06:24 GMT
#47
On May 20 2017 10:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 06:05 DieuCure wrote:
Because ro32 is weak


It's weak, but Losira is underrated. Guy was making ro16+ all year back in 2013 which I'd say was one of the highest skill eras.

INnoVation made him look like a complete fool in the Ro32 (and last season too), but that's INnoVation so can't be too harsh on Losira.

Tastosis were making jokes about how Losira was running down an up-escalator with broken legs. That basically summed up him vs INnoVation.
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zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
May 20 2017 07:37 GMT
#48
I think the issue for Maru with this group is who will help him practice tvz who is as good as the zergs he is facing? Honestly ByuL and Solar are possibly the only ones good enough to give him adequate practice who aren't in his group. Maybe laddering is enough but who knows.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 20 2017 11:30 GMT
#49
Rogue, his games against TY was decent
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Hektorio
Profile Joined May 2017
Sweden2 Posts
May 20 2017 21:47 GMT
#50
Group Soo is sick. But seriously; The strongest terrans are in group aLive. This is gonna be a great ro16. :D
Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
May 20 2017 23:04 GMT
#51
On May 20 2017 16:37 zealotstim wrote:
I think the issue for Maru with this group is who will help him practice tvz who is as good as the zergs he is facing? Honestly ByuL and Solar are possibly the only ones good enough to give him adequate practice who aren't in his group. Maybe laddering is enough but who knows.


Laddering doesn't ever seem to be enough... or we'd see more foreigners qualified. He's got his work cut out for him.
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