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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
March 29 2017 11:31 GMT
#81
On March 28 2017 10:28 Beliskner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 09:28 fishjie wrote:
On March 28 2017 05:12 Xamo wrote:
On March 28 2017 03:40 fishjie wrote:
Really sad. also sad how they were banning people in LR for pointing out toss bs. just like back in the day they banned ppl for pointing out blink stalker in HOTS or gglord/winfestor in WOL, banning doesn't change the truth, viewership numbers plummeted anyway. This is a terrible outcome for sc2. stats is another generic toss, am i supposed to be able to differentiate him and classic,dear, zest, and a long list of other toss players who just blur together? Sucks for Ryung and sucks especially for Soo.

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Generic toss? Perhaps you should abandon one minute your ridiculous protoss hate and recognize that he is a world-class pro-gamer that has won his first tittle thanks to relentless effort and dedication to develop his talent. Same in case of soO if he had won.
In other words, just show some respect, even if you are not able to appreciate how good he is.


non generic toss players:

MC for being an entertainer
Parting for his bravado
Rain whose gimmick was not having any gimmicks
Duckduck because he cried genuine tears

Yes aside from rain all of them abused whatever at the time to get their wins. Duck was especially egregious example. But they had stuff outside of the game that made them shine. Aside from those guys, the rest of the long list of toss players just blur together for me. i dont hate protoss i used to play toss because 1a was all i could manage mechanically. a win is a win after all. but they are a poorly designed race with force fields and warp ins, and the latest expo seems to have made things worse with gladepts. banning people doesnt really change that fact, people are still gonna vote with their eyeballs by not watching.

soo winning would have been a 100000 times better result since his story is so heartbreaking - now even more so


This is a 'I don't hate black people, I have tons of black friends' tier post, also admitting that you haven't even played LoTV as it 'seems to have made things worse'. People don't seem to be voting with their eyes but with their emotions it seems.... a race that has currently ONE player doing well yet we have like 4-5 top Terrans, but it's probably because of Protoss 'bs' that he wins right?

Race has 4-5 god like players? The hardest race in the game!
Race has 1 good player with the lowest population by far? The EZ race.





The fact that he is spilling bs doesn't mean you have to wow.
Terrans don't have 4-5 top, we have TY and sometimes ByuN or INno at the top at the moment, with Ryung/Maru/aLive as the 2nd tier, whereas Protoss got Stats at the top with sometimes herO or Classic, with Zest/Patience/sOs as the 2nd tier. There is hardly a difference.

WriterMaru
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
March 29 2017 11:41 GMT
#82
The win was a long time coming but over the last few years since Flash left KT, Stats has been rising to the challenge. Fair play to the man and condolences to soO, he must be heartbroken.
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 30 2017 01:20 GMT
#83
On March 28 2017 10:28 Beliskner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 09:28 fishjie wrote:
On March 28 2017 05:12 Xamo wrote:
On March 28 2017 03:40 fishjie wrote:
Really sad. also sad how they were banning people in LR for pointing out toss bs. just like back in the day they banned ppl for pointing out blink stalker in HOTS or gglord/winfestor in WOL, banning doesn't change the truth, viewership numbers plummeted anyway. This is a terrible outcome for sc2. stats is another generic toss, am i supposed to be able to differentiate him and classic,dear, zest, and a long list of other toss players who just blur together? Sucks for Ryung and sucks especially for Soo.

User was warned for this post

Generic toss? Perhaps you should abandon one minute your ridiculous protoss hate and recognize that he is a world-class pro-gamer that has won his first tittle thanks to relentless effort and dedication to develop his talent. Same in case of soO if he had won.
In other words, just show some respect, even if you are not able to appreciate how good he is.


non generic toss players:

MC for being an entertainer
Parting for his bravado
Rain whose gimmick was not having any gimmicks
Duckduck because he cried genuine tears

Yes aside from rain all of them abused whatever at the time to get their wins. Duck was especially egregious example. But they had stuff outside of the game that made them shine. Aside from those guys, the rest of the long list of toss players just blur together for me. i dont hate protoss i used to play toss because 1a was all i could manage mechanically. a win is a win after all. but they are a poorly designed race with force fields and warp ins, and the latest expo seems to have made things worse with gladepts. banning people doesnt really change that fact, people are still gonna vote with their eyeballs by not watching.

soo winning would have been a 100000 times better result since his story is so heartbreaking - now even more so


This is a 'I don't hate black people, I have tons of black friends' tier post, also admitting that you haven't even played LoTV as it 'seems to have made things worse'. People don't seem to be voting with their eyes but with their emotions it seems.... a race that has currently ONE player doing well yet we have like 4-5 top Terrans, but it's probably because of Protoss 'bs' that he wins right?

Race has 4-5 god like players? The hardest race in the game!
Race has 1 good player with the lowest population by far? The EZ race.






lol did you seriously compare pointing out that toss is badly designed and that protoss players abusing gladepts to win is lame, to systemic and real racism against black people in america?

anyway i forgot to add SOS to my list of favorite non generic protosses. i have no idea how he slipped my mind. I will never forget the double 2 gateway proxy rush for 100k all or nothing. man has balls of steel to all in like that with such high stakes.
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