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Charoisaur
Germany16017 Posts
also sOs is surely a greater player than Sniper despite not having won a starleague. Dark has the same amount of silvers in tier 1 tournaments as soO (2 KesPa Cups, SSL, Blizzcon) and has 1 SSL win vs soO's KesPa Cup win. Also he has 1 gold and 1 silver in crossfinals. before this season I would've put Dark ahead but with soO's 5th gsl appearance he takes a slight lead imo. | ||
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I wasbanned fromthis
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17030 Posts
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muppet70
Sweden72 Posts
Does Sos not play air toss? Not one game even trying to go for the "golden armada" but harass galore and Has level cheese. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 16 2017 05:04 Charoisaur wrote: TaeJa didn't play gsl in his best years though so it's not entirely fair to count only korean tournaments. also sOs is surely a greater player than Sniper despite not having won a starleague. Dark has the same amount of silvers in tier 1 tournaments as soO (2 KesPa Cups, SSL, Blizzcon) and has 1 SSL win vs soO's KesPa Cup win. Also he has 1 gold and 1 silver in crossfinals. before this season I would've put Dark ahead but with soO's 5th gsl appearance he takes a slight lead imo. Sure but i think it is more reasonable to weigh the scene more which has more consistency of top talent in it. I don't even wanna completely neglect every weekend tournament. I am merely pointing out why it's incredibly hard to weigh Taeja's wins against other top players simply because they for the most part only played in korea (yes not ONLY but as i said, in comparison it's basically that) I don't rate a Kespa cup the same i rate a starleague. Imo preparation and the fact that you have to do well over a longer period of time makes SSL/GSL/OSL superior to kespa cup or anything similar. Cross finals are basically show matches. Well as i said i don't have an "objective" system atm (objective as in consistent with the subjective criteria i would choose) so i cannot be sure, but atm i would give soO quite the lead because imo 5 GSL final appearances is superior to Dark's results and that quite easily. Winning this GSL might even put him above Life in my mind, maybe but i am not sure about that yet (because at that point i would really neglect every weekend tournament ever probably) | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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zealotstim
United States455 Posts
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Hushfieldx
Belgium64 Posts
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Elentos
55560 Posts
On March 16 2017 05:16 The_Red_Viper wrote: (because at that point i would really neglect every weekend tournament ever probably) Well, not all of them. Just the results from like... two Blizzcons, two MLGs, two IEMs, two Dreamhacks and Iron Squid. And how hard could that possibly be? | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 16 2017 06:26 Elentos wrote: Well, not all of them. Just the results from like... two Blizzcons, two MLGs, two IEMs, two Dreamhacks and Iron Squid. And how hard could that possibly be? Nah way more than that because i already said i don't only look at gold medals, that's flawed in my opinion  | ||
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DeadByDawn
United Kingdom476 Posts
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MrMischelito
347 Posts
On March 15 2017 22:03 hexhaven wrote: I'd like to congratulate soO for his silver medal. ouch! so mean. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On March 16 2017 02:27 BisuDagger wrote: soO > nestea if he wins this finals? soO > Jaedong | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
In sc2? Sure but that's not THAT hard | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
In my estimation, soO is probably somewhere between #9-#7 in GOAT status. Taeja still murders him, deal with it :p == On another note...why is Dark in the convo at all as far as GOATs go? Even before this season, he doesn't touch soO. He's behind both DRG and NesTea. Hell, if ByuL stages another major starleague run I'd argue for him over Dark. I don't even dislike Dark, but he strikes me as overrated. | ||
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Cluster__
United States328 Posts
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lestye
United States4186 Posts
On March 16 2017 06:41 The_Red_Viper wrote: Nah way more than that because i already said i don't only look at gold medals, that's flawed in my opinion It depends on the Gold medals too. We've had incredibly stacked IEMs and really tame ones. I'd be willing to count gold medals in GSLs straight up, notsomuch the weekend tournaments. | ||
munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On March 16 2017 10:58 lestye wrote: It depends on the Gold medals too. We've had incredibly stacked IEMs and really tame ones. I'd be willing to count gold medals in GSLs straight up, notsomuch the weekend tournaments. so you think this should be rated above this? Context is everything. Same reason why calling random GOM events GSLs is shitty practice | ||
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SeriousForU
United States5 Posts
Having said that the Buffalo Bills went to 4 straight Super Bowls from 1990 to 1993. We all know what they're remembered for. I would feel soO bad if history repeats itself. GoGo Zerg! Good luck soO. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 16 2017 11:03 munch wrote: so you think this should be rated above this? Context is everything. Same reason why calling random GOM events GSLs is shitty practice Well even in the dreamhack you listed there weren't really all that many absolute top tier players in it which then decreases the whole lvl of competition. (yes taeja had quite the legit path to the championship, but what would have happened if any of the top 8 GSL players would have competed there as well for example?) On the other hand the early days of sc2 weren't all that competitive to begin with because the talent pool wasn't that deep yet. | ||
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