EPTbecause it will a kind of invitational thing based on previous result, which means giving points for this would just give more point to people who already have plenty?
I don't really know, just trying to guess...
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
because it will a kind of invitational thing based on previous result, which means giving points for this would just give more point to people who already have plenty? I don't really know, just trying to guess... | ||
DARKING
Mexico674 Posts
On February 08 2017 14:09 Inflicted wrote: Regional Eligibility Changes for 2017 Japan added to Taiwan/Hong Kong/Macau Region 2016 was in the first year Japanese players were eligible to participate in the WCS. While we appreciate their contributions to the ANZ & Southeast Asia region, we’ve examined the player experience and decided that due to server location it makes sense to home Japan in the Taiwan/Hong Kong/Macau region. We hope this will provide a better experience for all players. That's a pretty curious change. While the Japanese scene is small (basically  PSiArc and  Vaisravana), the Taiwanese scene has also been shrinking a lot. Adding a couple more players would not hurt, plus if it gives them better latency I'm all up for it.EDIT: guess we're gonna call it the Taiwan/Hong Kong/Macau/Japan region now? Talk about long names. On February 08 2017 21:33 ArtyK wrote: So is this the WCS 2016 Korea but for foreigners in 2017? 4 events total really? It was 3 last year but with 3 extra DH, the Gold series, IEM shanghai and wcs copa intercontinental, so 9 events total for wcs points. Are they gonna announce more tournaments or is that it? Even counting global events it's like 70% of last years circuit prize pool. This is something that I do not know why it was not discussed more when it was initially announced, the non-Korean world got sliced pretty bad there. While the ammout of seeds that WCS Challenger gives has doubled, the ammout of premier tournaments got decreased a lot. And why yes, one can also plays in all the Korean tournaments, the reality is that not very many players got the income neccesary to make it a reality. That is why last year WCS was so good for foreigners, having multiple opportunities to travel to tournaments, giving exposure to your region and teams that otherwise you would not be able to. Now you have 4 chances this year, good luck with that. The only thing is that Blizzard annouces more WCS circuit events during the year, but by the way the initial annoucement was written it was like there were not gonna be anything more that what was announced. If there are more foreign tournaments, I would expect them to not be part of the WCS circuit, which means no regional qualifiers for players to be able to participate in. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On February 08 2017 15:40 Diabolique wrote: That means 4 global events, right? Much nicer than 2016! The only global events are IEM Katowice and GSL vs the World. Last year they had 1 global event, this year they said they wanted more. So they went from 1 to 2, while only 1 of them gives points. It's quite pathetic. | ||
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
On February 08 2017 23:00 DARKING wrote: It is finally good to see the point distribution for this year. That's a pretty curious change. While the Japanese scene is small (basically PSiArc and Vaisravana), the Taiwanese scene has also been shrinking a lot. Adding a couple more players would not hurt, plus if it gives them better latency I'm all up for it.EDIT: guess we're gonna call it the Taiwan/Hong Kong/Macau/Japan region now? Talk about long names. + Show Spoiler + On February 08 2017 21:33 ArtyK wrote: So is this the WCS 2016 Korea but for foreigners in 2017? 4 events total really? It was 3 last year but with 3 extra DH, the Gold series, IEM shanghai and wcs copa intercontinental, so 9 events total for wcs points. Are they gonna announce more tournaments or is that it? Even counting global events it's like 70% of last years circuit prize pool. This is something that I do not know why it was not discussed more when it was initially announced, the non-Korean world got sliced pretty bad there. While the ammout of seeds that WCS Challenger gives has doubled, the ammout of premier tournaments got decreased a lot. And why yes, one can also plays in all the Korean tournaments, the reality is that not very many players got the income neccesary to make it a reality. That is why last year WCS was so good for foreigners, having multiple opportunities to travel to tournaments, giving exposure to your region and teams that otherwise you would not be able to. Now you have 4 chances this year, good luck with that. The only thing is that Blizzard annouces more WCS circuit events during the year, but by the way the initial annoucement was written it was like there were not gonna be anything more that what was announced. If there are more foreign tournaments, I would expect them to not be part of the WCS circuit, which means no regional qualifiers for players to be able to participate in. TaHKMaJa | ||
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ArtyK
France3143 Posts
On February 08 2017 23:00 DARKING wrote: It is finally good to see the point distribution for this year. That's a pretty curious change. While the Japanese scene is small (basically PSiArc and Vaisravana), the Taiwanese scene has also been shrinking a lot. Adding a couple more players would not hurt, plus if it gives them better latency I'm all up for it.EDIT: guess we're gonna call it the Taiwan/Hong Kong/Macau/Japan region now? Talk about long names. This is something that I do not know why it was not discussed more when it was initially announced, the non-Korean world got sliced pretty bad there. While the ammout of seeds that WCS Challenger gives has doubled, the ammout of premier tournaments got decreased a lot. And why yes, one can also plays in all the Korean tournaments, the reality is that not very many players got the income neccesary to make it a reality. That is why last year WCS was so good for foreigners, having multiple opportunities to travel to tournaments, giving exposure to your region and teams that otherwise you would not be able to. Now you have 4 chances this year, good luck with that. The only thing is that Blizzard annouces more WCS circuit events during the year, but by the way the initial annoucement was written it was like there were not gonna be anything more that what was announced. If there are more foreign tournaments, I would expect them to not be part of the WCS circuit, which means no regional qualifiers for players to be able to participate in. wanted to do the same comment when it was announced but i hoped they would just clear it up later, nope, that's all there is TT | ||
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Dingodile
4133 Posts
On February 08 2017 21:29 Elentos wrote: I don't understand why this took so long tbh. They announced all those tournaments as WCS tournaments in December. It can't be that hard to figure out the point values. I think it makes more sense to announce wcs points shortly before first wcs tournament of the year begins. unhandily to announce the points when the first tournament starts 2-3 months afterwards. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
Someone please name themselves that on BNet. | ||
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On February 08 2017 23:42 Dingodile wrote: I think it makes more sense to announce wcs points shortly before first wcs tournament of the year begins. unhandily to announce the points when the first tournament starts 2-3 months afterwards. But the first tournament that gave WCS points for 2017 was 2 months ago. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On February 08 2017 15:40 Diabolique wrote: That means 4 global events, right? Much nicer than 2016! Only one more global which is the showmatch that doesn't give any point. Blizzard is outright ridiculing anyone with their communication regarding globals even if to be fair Katowice looks better than last year KeSPA Cup. On February 08 2017 18:16 FluoCrazyKenny wrote: wait , where is DreamHack Open Tours (France) on May 6th to 8th ? It is not a WCS Circuit tournament anymore ? No point granted ? So I guess there will be no StarCraft at DreamHack Tours ? I'd have to guess at a smaller tournaments. Huge technical problem twice in a row affecting DH Open and WCS means that it's a logical move. | ||
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Akara12345
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On February 08 2017 23:00 DARKING wrote: It is finally good to see the point distribution for this year. That's a pretty curious change. While the Japanese scene is small (basically PSiArc and Vaisravana), the Taiwanese scene has also been shrinking a lot. Adding a couple more players would not hurt, plus if it gives them better latency I'm all up for it.EDIT: guess we're gonna call it the Taiwan/Hong Kong/Macau/Japan region now? Talk about long names. This is something that I do not know why it was not discussed more when it was initially announced, the non-Korean world got sliced pretty bad there. While the ammout of seeds that WCS Challenger gives has doubled, the ammout of premier tournaments got decreased a lot. And why yes, one can also plays in all the Korean tournaments, the reality is that not very many players got the income neccesary to make it a reality. That is why last year WCS was so good for foreigners, having multiple opportunities to travel to tournaments, giving exposure to your region and teams that otherwise you would not be able to. Now you have 4 chances this year, good luck with that. The only thing is that Blizzard annouces more WCS circuit events during the year, but by the way the initial annoucement was written it was like there were not gonna be anything more that what was announced. If there are more foreign tournaments, I would expect them to not be part of the WCS circuit, which means no regional qualifiers for players to be able to participate in. Well, I did raise precisely this concern in the WCS 2017 Announcement thread, but I suppose quite a lot of people around here couldn't care less what happens to WCS. However, if the foreigner scene is down to 4 major tourney per year it clearly has one two major implications: 1. foreigners that want to stay pros simply don't have many reasons to continue playing starcraft anymore; and 2) Cutting the WCS from 10 (as it were in 2016) to 4 tourneys, WCS simply becomes uninteresting to follow. 4 competitions, what kind of circuit is that? Its such a tremendous failure of keeping an interesting circuit going. In 2016 players were fighting so hard throughout the year to be among the top 8, and it wasn't decided until the very last tourney who would make it. Now this is all gone it seems. | ||
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MrMischelito
347 Posts
the amount of points awarded is not proportional, however... not even close. sad! | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On February 09 2017 06:24 BaneRiders wrote: Well, I did raise precisely this concern in the WCS 2017 Announcement thread, but I suppose quite a lot of people around here couldn't care less what happens to WCS. However, if the foreigner scene is down to 4 major tourney per year it clearly has one two major implications: 1. foreigners that want to stay pros simply don't have many reasons to continue playing starcraft anymore; and 2) Cutting the WCS from 10 (as it were in 2016) to 4 tourneys, WCS simply becomes uninteresting to follow. 4 competitions, what kind of circuit is that? Its such a tremendous failure of keeping an interesting circuit going. In 2016 players were fighting so hard throughout the year to be among the top 8, and it wasn't decided until the very last tourney who would make it. Now this is all gone it seems. Agreed, when I saw it announced for the first time I was kind of disappointed and was thinking about going back to studies but we will see how this year will look like exactly. | ||
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CUTtheCBC
Canada91 Posts
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PtitDrogo
France163 Posts
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KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
On February 10 2017 23:02 CUTtheCBC wrote: meanwhile bw is growing and growing and just got a TEAMLEAGUE!!! What does that have to do with anything in this thread? | ||
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