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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 13 2016 14:47 GMT
#501
On November 13 2016 23:45 egernya wrote:
Byun's buying pizza to the fans who attends the matches tomorrow.


He's really trying to overtake MC as the most beloved pro <3
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-13 14:51:01
November 13 2016 14:50 GMT
#502
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 13 2016 15:22 GMT
#503
Huh I might actually make it home in time tomorrow to watch this & update the OP. Wish me luck.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 13 2016 15:27 GMT
#504
I hope we get a TvT final
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 13 2016 15:28 GMT
#505
On November 14 2016 00:27 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I hope we get a TvT final

I'm not sure how hyped I can get for mass cyclone vs mass cyclone
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 13 2016 15:43 GMT
#506
On November 14 2016 00:28 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 00:27 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I hope we get a TvT final

I'm not sure how hyped I can get for mass cyclone vs mass cyclone

Didn't watch the other tvts, it's that bad huh?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 13 2016 15:47 GMT
#507
On November 14 2016 00:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 00:28 Elentos wrote:
On November 14 2016 00:27 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I hope we get a TvT final

I'm not sure how hyped I can get for mass cyclone vs mass cyclone

Didn't watch the other tvts, it's that bad huh?

Well

aLive went bio against Ryung's mech for 1 game but it didn't really go amazingly well. And then in the second game both of them just massed cyclones.

Maybe it gets better when top Terrans like TY and ByuN play TvT though.
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Vorck1
Profile Joined July 2015
Finland16 Posts
November 13 2016 15:54 GMT
#508
On November 14 2016 00:47 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 00:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On November 14 2016 00:28 Elentos wrote:
On November 14 2016 00:27 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I hope we get a TvT final

I'm not sure how hyped I can get for mass cyclone vs mass cyclone

Didn't watch the other tvts, it's that bad huh?

Well

aLive went bio against Ryung's mech for 1 game but it didn't really go amazingly well. And then in the second game both of them just massed cyclones.

Maybe it gets better when top Terrans like TY and ByuN play TvT though.



By all logic mass siege tanks should just annihilate mass cyclone, especially due to how short ranged they are. I guess the definitive answer will come once Blizz rolls out the patch on ladder.
Roses are red, Violets are blue, 4/7/7.
DrunkenJedi
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany175 Posts
November 13 2016 15:56 GMT
#509
Protoss underwhelming in this new patch? Don't know too much about the patch though.
"Don't worry, I use Special Tactics this time, no problem."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 13 2016 15:59 GMT
#510
On November 14 2016 00:56 DrunkenJedi wrote:
Protoss underwhelming in this new patch? Don't know too much about the patch though.

I'd say Protoss mostly stayed the same (minor buffs and nerfs) while the other races got some very major changes (mostly buffs) so it'll be hard for Protoss at least at the start.
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207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
November 13 2016 16:03 GMT
#511
On November 14 2016 00:47 Elentos wrote:

Maybe it gets better when top Terrans like TY and ByuN play TvT though.


People still pretending Ryung isn't a top TvTer smh.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-13 16:11:03
November 13 2016 16:06 GMT
#512
On November 14 2016 01:03 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 00:47 Elentos wrote:

Maybe it gets better when top Terrans like TY and ByuN play TvT though.


People still pretending Ryung isn't a top TvTer smh.

He's a top TvTer alright. But there's still a whole tier between him and TY/ByuN. You could say Ryung is top tier and TY/ByuN are god tier TvTers. Especially with preparation, even players like Ryung lose the vast majority of their matches against them.

Also they're way better micro players than Ryung or aLive which is pretty essential for bio play and that was mostly what I was getting at. And the fact that I don't think Ryung and aLive are on the same level atm in TvT.
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207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
November 13 2016 16:16 GMT
#513
On November 14 2016 01:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 01:03 207aicila wrote:
On November 14 2016 00:47 Elentos wrote:

Maybe it gets better when top Terrans like TY and ByuN play TvT though.


People still pretending Ryung isn't a top TvTer smh.

He's a top TvTer alright. But there's still a whole tier between him and TY/ByuN. You could say Ryung is top tier and TY/ByuN are god tier TvTers. Especially with preparation, even players like Ryung lose the vast majority of their matches against them.

Also they're way better micro players than Ryung or aLive which is pretty essential for bio play and that was mostly what I was getting at. And the fact that I don't think Ryung and aLive are on the same level atm in TvT.


Funny you should mention that since in the last two months the head-to-head between Ryung and ByuN in online cups was the closest it's ever been, with a lot of close series and close matches. And as we know in SC2, recent form is the only form that really matters at any given time.

But yeah I get what you mean. No worries.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
November 13 2016 17:17 GMT
#514
I just watched TY vs Stats (?) and TY's cyclone rush is soooooooooooooooooo good. Protoss tears are really delicious.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
November 13 2016 18:54 GMT
#515
Just wanted to say that I thought Piggy Bank's casting was very unique (in a good way) and hilarious.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
November 13 2016 19:11 GMT
#516
So on the new patch it's Z>T>P? But is P>Z?
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-13 19:45:58
November 13 2016 19:45 GMT
#517
On November 14 2016 04:11 Poopi wrote:
So on the new patch it's Z>T>P? But is P>Z?

Z>T is still questionable imo. aLive destroyed ByuL with bio in the preliminary. GuMiho and Ryung went mech in 5 out of 6 games but failed. I want to see ByuN vs ByuL first before calling that.

It's looking like Z>P though from everything I've seen (and that superiority is in due part because of the hydra buff).
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 13 2016 21:34 GMT
#518
(T)TY 3-1 (P)Zest
(T)ByuN 3-0 (Z)ByuL

(T)TY 3-4 (T)ByuN

is my guess from here on out. Hope ByuL finally wins something, but I'm doubtful he can survive ByuN's bio. If ByuN screws around and goes mech I think ByuL stomps him as his anti-mech prowess seems to have transitioned over to LotV.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
November 13 2016 21:43 GMT
#519
On November 14 2016 04:45 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 04:11 Poopi wrote:
So on the new patch it's Z>T>P? But is P>Z?

Z>T is still questionable imo. aLive destroyed ByuL with bio in the preliminary. GuMiho and Ryung went mech in 5 out of 6 games but failed. I want to see ByuN vs ByuL first before calling that.

It's looking like Z>P though from everything I've seen (and that superiority is in due part because of the hydra buff).

Yeah looks like mech is not as strong as ought to be, or they don't know yet how to play it.
ByuN will have a hard time tho I expect
WriterMaru
zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
November 13 2016 21:47 GMT
#520
well TY played already mech with the old patch so I hope he gets a zerg but it is unlikely
TY my boy gogo
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