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Neeb, "I'm so happy to win my first tourney in Korea."

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Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-03 15:47:24
October 03 2016 13:36 GMT
#1
http://sports.news.naver.com/esports/news/read.nhn?oid=236&aid=0000148168

Alex 'Neeb' Sunderhaft made a new history. Alex won KeSPA cup, being the first non-Korean player who won Korean tournament in 16 years.

On Oct. 3rd in Nexon Arena, he swept Trap 4-0 and won KeSPA Cup finals. It is known that it is his first winning - he've won 2nd place in IEM Shanghai and DH Austin.

- You won the tournament. How do you feel?

Good. I'm very happy to have my first winning in Korea.


- Did you expect you'd do this well in KeSPA Cup?

▶ I have a tournament in Toronto and I only cared about that tourney; I didn' know I'd win KeSPA Cup.


- Do you feel confident in PvP?


▶ I established my own build and then got confidence in PvP.


- You're so good at controlling Disruptors. Are there any secrets?

▶ It's my style in NA ladder. I've used it for one year and I become good at it.


- Did you expect that it'd be 4-0?

▶ Personally, I think Trap is not as a good player as TY. So when Trap beat TY I expected I'd make a clean sweep.


- You didn't play against Terran. Isn't that depressing?

▶ Since I'm bad at playing against Terran, it's good to me.


- Now you are expecting Snute, Zest and Patience in Blizzcon.

▶ I love to face two Protoss in my group. However, there's a Zerg. Since Snute's playing is very hard to counter, I'd say I'm not that happy.


- It was your first Korean tournament.

▶ I was very happy to win against Koreans in Korean tournament.


- Any words?

▶ Bring it on, Protoss! (laugh)
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-03 13:44:22
October 03 2016 13:43 GMT
#2
On October 03 2016 22:36 Thouhastmail wrote:
- Did you expect that it'd be 4-0?

▶ Personally, I think Trap is not as a good player as TY. So when Trap beat TY I expected I'd make a clean sweep.



'Dat confidence! Hope his PvT well get as godly as his PvP and solid as his PvZ.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
October 03 2016 13:45 GMT
#3
ha ha some serious trash talking on Trap ^^. Although I agree, it would have been way more interesting vs TY.

If the Blizzcon group is set to be that, I can really see a chance for both foreigners to advance...
jy_9876543210
Profile Joined March 2016
265 Posts
October 03 2016 13:45 GMT
#4
The Purifiers have finally taken over the Daelaam.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-03 13:59:26
October 03 2016 13:57 GMT
#5
Congrats Neeb!

But that comment about "being the first non-Korean player who won Korean tournament in 16 years" bugs me. Yes, it's a fact, but rather misleading. It implies that foreigners have been trying very hard for years to win tourneys in Korea and fail miserably, when that's simply not true. Foreigners just haven't had many chances to compete in Korea (at least for SC2), hence the low probabilities of them winning all this while.

It's like making a big deal out of Germany being the first ever European country to win the World Cup in South America (in 2014). Yes, it's a fact. But when you consider that the World Cup is held every four years and the hosts are spread out across the continents, the record-breaking feat is more down to limited chances.

Yes, what Neeb has achieved is amazing. But let's not treat it as if Haiti has just won the World Cup.
gg no re thx
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
October 03 2016 14:00 GMT
#6
On October 03 2016 22:57 RKC wrote:

Foreigners just haven't had many chances to compete in Korea (at least for SC2), hence the low probabilities of them winning all this while.


There's been more foreigners competing in Korea in SC2 than in BW despite the former only being half as old.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
October 03 2016 14:08 GMT
#7
On October 03 2016 23:00 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2016 22:57 RKC wrote:

Foreigners just haven't had many chances to compete in Korea (at least for SC2), hence the low probabilities of them winning all this while.


There's been more foreigners competing in Korea in SC2 than in BW despite the former only being half as old.


You're right. I kinda guess someone would point that out when I wrote it. What I had in mind was that foreigners had plenty of time to compete with Koreans in BW over the span of 10+ years, but they couldn't bridge the gap (for reasons of infrastructure support, etc.). Never mind, I should have probably edited out "(at least for SC2)".
gg no re thx
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-03 14:10:47
October 03 2016 14:08 GMT
#8
shut the f*** up... he beat them? ... amazing... good job!...
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djack0666
Profile Joined March 2011
Belarus219 Posts
October 03 2016 14:45 GMT
#9
can anyone please tell me who was this foreigner who won in BW before Neeb? And if there were othres before him? cheers
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ThorPool
Profile Joined February 2014
Panama145 Posts
October 03 2016 14:48 GMT
#10
On October 03 2016 23:45 djack0666 wrote:
can anyone please tell me who was this foreigner who won in BW before Neeb? And if there were othres before him? cheers


If I remember correctly then it was Grrr... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Grrrr...
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Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-03 15:10:59
October 03 2016 15:10 GMT
#11
On October 03 2016 22:57 RKC wrote:
Congrats Neeb!

But that comment about "being the first non-Korean player who won Korean tournament in 16 years" bugs me. Yes, it's a fact, but rather misleading. It implies that foreigners have been trying very hard for years to win tourneys in Korea and fail miserably, when that's simply not true. Foreigners just haven't had many chances to compete in Korea (at least for SC2), hence the low probabilities of them winning all this while.

It's like making a big deal out of Germany being the first ever European country to win the World Cup in South America (in 2014). Yes, it's a fact. But when you consider that the World Cup is held every four years and the hosts are spread out across the continents, the record-breaking feat is more down to limited chances.

Yes, what Neeb has achieved is amazing. But let's not treat it as if Haiti has just won the World Cup.


I think you really underestimate how many foreigners were going to Korea in SC2's heyday. Nearly every top tier foreign player went to Korea to play in Proleague and were given seeds into the GSL, and they just had zero success. Even the "best foreigner ever," Stephano, got knocked out of the GSL in like the ro32 by Flying, who retired a couple months later because he didn't even like the game.
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Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-03 15:14:10
October 03 2016 15:11 GMT
#12
On October 03 2016 22:57 RKC wrote:
Congrats Neeb!
Foreigners just haven't had many chances to compete in Korea (at least for SC2), hence the low probabilities of them winning all this while.


It sounds like "We could beat Koreans whenever we want. It wasn't because there's no chance."

Really, huh.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
October 03 2016 15:12 GMT
#13
On October 03 2016 23:48 ThorPool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2016 23:45 djack0666 wrote:
can anyone please tell me who was this foreigner who won in BW before Neeb? And if there were othres before him? cheers


If I remember correctly then it was Grrr... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Grrrr...


Yes, it was Guillaume Patry indeed.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 03 2016 15:14 GMT
#14
Was this interview done in english, translated to korean, then translated back to english? cause it reads a little bit telephone-y
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-03 15:16:46
October 03 2016 15:16 GMT
#15
That's nuts - the last time a foreigner had accomplished this Brood War was in its infancy and in the pre-Boxer era
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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
October 03 2016 15:17 GMT
#16
On October 04 2016 00:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Was this interview done in english, translated to korean, then translated back to english? cause it reads a little bit telephone-y

Guess we found out what price he had to pay to win a korean tournament.

He didnt have to sell his soul, nay he did something else (though some would say its basically the same thing)

Neeb himself has become korean, as evidenced by his interview answers
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Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
October 03 2016 15:19 GMT
#17
On October 04 2016 00:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Was this interview done in english, translated to korean, then translated back to english? cause it reads a little bit telephone-y


I guess so. but I just rendered as it is written.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
October 03 2016 15:21 GMT
#18
On October 04 2016 00:17 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 00:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Was this interview done in english, translated to korean, then translated back to english? cause it reads a little bit telephone-y

Guess we found out what price he had to pay to win a korean tournament.

He didnt have to sell his soul, nay he did something else (though some would say its basically the same thing)

Neeb himself has become korean, as evidenced by his interview answers


Yes ! Hopefully next time he wins he goes all 'I wanna keep on practicing and hope to show more good results in the future'
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16081 Posts
October 03 2016 15:24 GMT
#19
On October 04 2016 00:21 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 00:17 Aocowns wrote:
On October 04 2016 00:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Was this interview done in english, translated to korean, then translated back to english? cause it reads a little bit telephone-y

Guess we found out what price he had to pay to win a korean tournament.

He didnt have to sell his soul, nay he did something else (though some would say its basically the same thing)

Neeb himself has become korean, as evidenced by his interview answers


Yes ! Hopefully next time he wins he goes all 'I wanna keep on practicing and hope to show more good results in the future'

"I want to show good games to my fans so please cheer for me."
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 03 2016 15:37 GMT
#20
another faceless foreigner interview zzz

at least his last words weren't a promise of good games
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