Throughout SCII's history, there has always been discussion, complaints even, about the volatility of the game. Build orders played too big of a role, inferior players could take games and even series off their betters through cheeses and all-ins - those are some of many beaten-to-death arguments. All that seems to have improved in Legacy of the Void. The better players generally seem to win more often. That trend is exemplified by results in Korea's individual leagues. Dark, Solar, Zest, Stats, TY and Dear are names that have been in contention for the ever elusive title of "best player in the world" for a while now. Dark, Stats and Solar went on to form the top 3 of Starleague Season 1. TY has already advanced to the GSL finals where he awaits the winner of this semifinal - Zest or Dear. The top players have all justified their reputation through high placements and strong results, a fact perhaps indicative of decreasing volatility in the game.
Volatile - more than ever
All that matters very little in PvP however. While WoL and HotS played fairly similarly through large portions of the game, PvP in Legacy is something completely new. Blizzard's goal was to eliminate deathballs by toning down the colossus. That gambit has somewhat paid off, as PvP is now dictated by more flashy armies, but make no mistake: it still revolves around deathballs. What has changed however is that disruptor usage has made engaging in fights even more difficult than ever before. A game can swing back and forth through single disruptor hits, making strategic advantages very difficult to capitalize on past a certain point. The power of disruptors in PvP by design leads to a more volatile matchup.
It's only logical then that a lot of players will try to cut that part of the game out entirely or work up an advantage so large that they can starve out their opponent rather than fighting them head on. This is where the matchup becomes even more unpredictable. A lot of players will try to take a risk early to adjust and gather that advantage. Whether it be through mothership core scouting, aggressive pylon overcharge rushes or greedy passive openings, players are generally looking to get ahead early in PvP. All these options come with a risk however and can backfire spectacularly.
Protoss Ideals
I bring all of this up because it is precisely why this match is incredibly hard to call. Zest and Dear are undoubtedly two of the best players in the world, and they each represent one of these aspects of Protoss play very strongly.
Zest is perhaps the most refined player in the world. He will use only the best builds, he will use them only if they are refined to perfection and he will execute them with no hiccups. That is who he is, a smith of finesse and detail. He is always aware of every possible scenario and his builds are all flexible enough to let him respond to any and all of them.
Dear, while no fool himself, cannot compete with him in that aspect. No Protoss, perhaps no other player can. But Dear excels in other aspects of the game where he can outdo Zest. Across a number of matches - especially in (but not limited to) PvP - he has displayed fantastic mechanics and control. It showed in their Proleague meeting earlier this year. Zest worked himself into a great position with a brilliant early game build, timing out a stalker/observer hit squad perfectly to snipe Dear's observer and follow up with DTs. Dear however adjusted well and, through superior control, was able to swing the game back in his favor and eventually win it. That game perhaps serves as the perfect example of what to expect from this series - and why it's so difficult to call.
Prediction:
To me this series is as 50/50 as it gets. Both players come off a loss in their last PvP, despite both being good at the matchup. The two's strengths lie in different aspects of the game. I expect Zest to stamp his mark on as many games as possible and take control that way. I consider his game management second to none, which means he won't be afraid to play out macro games. That however is where he enters Dear's comfort zone of fantastic engagement control and decisiveness. In other words: I expect a fight to the teeth. I expect both players to be able to play to their strengths. I expect a fantastic series between the two best Protoss players in the world.
Interesting read because you value the matchup moreso than the players, hehe. I think it is fair to say that this is hard to call though, i obviously hope Zest makes it but it could go either way (still Zest is best)
On April 22 2016 08:31 JonnySC2 wrote: Cheering for Dear in this one. Would be really cool to see him in the finals again. Also not really interessted in seeing a team-kill in the finals.
Think about it this way though, if zest makes it to the final we will have 1 skt and 3 kt players in the cross final
I'm thinking Zest is going to win because he's looked so dominant without a doubt. But...Dear is Dear and was once on top of the world and I think he's yearning for that spot again...
I kinda expect the games to go this way: Zest seizing control of the game and Dear regaining it with surprising moves or better control to get 2 or 3 maps. But Zest is best in the end!
I love Zest, but since Dear's early GSL days before his championship wins I've always cheered and supported him and I will continue that today. I really hope we see some fantastic matches!!
Dear wins 4-0. Zest is devastated. During the winner's interview, Dear all of a sudden pulls off his mask and it turns out it was Snute all along. Zest is flabbergasted but understands now why he lost 0-4.
On April 22 2016 15:17 Seeker wrote: Dear wins 4-0. Zest is devastated. During the winner's interview, Dear all of a sudden pulls off his mask and it turns out it was Snute all along. Zest is flabbergasted but understands now why he lost 0-4.
TY responds by having Maru play for him in the finals, but Dear actually shows up and Maru gets rekt #2014boys
On April 22 2016 15:17 Seeker wrote: Dear wins 4-0. Zest is devastated. During the winner's interview, Dear all of a sudden pulls off his mask and it turns out it was Snute all along. Zest is flabbergasted but understands now why he lost 0-4.
TY responds by having Maru play for him in the finals, but Dear actually shows up and Maru gets rekt #2014boys
Nope, TY sends Maru, Maru sends sOs, Dear runs away because of fear of humiliation during interviews.
On April 22 2016 15:17 Seeker wrote: Dear wins 4-0. Zest is devastated. During the winner's interview, Dear all of a sudden pulls off his mask and it turns out it was Snute all along. Zest is flabbergasted but understands now why he lost 0-4.
TY responds by having Maru play for him in the finals, but Dear actually shows up and Maru gets rekt #2014boys
Nope, TY sends Maru, Maru sends sOs, Dear runs away because of fear of humiliation during interviews.
On April 22 2016 15:17 Seeker wrote: Dear wins 4-0. Zest is devastated. During the winner's interview, Dear all of a sudden pulls off his mask and it turns out it was Snute all along. Zest is flabbergasted but understands now why he lost 0-4.
TY responds by having Maru play for him in the finals, but Dear actually shows up and Maru gets rekt #2014boys
Nope, TY sends Maru, Maru sends sOs, Dear runs away because of fear of humiliation during interviews.
Dear sends innovation, sOs sends TaeJa.
In the end the winner of 8 player FFA BO7 will have the trophy. That sounds fair.
People forget that when Dear was at the top, he was untouchable. Zest, even at his peak has always at least looked mortal. Looks to me that Dear is really gunning for that type of power again.
On April 22 2016 15:41 VanSCPurge wrote: All these people underestimating Dear, smh.
People forget that when Dear was at the top, he was untouchable. Zest, even at his peak has always at least looked mortal. Looks to me that Dear is really gunning for that type of power again.
Dear 4-2 Zest
Then foreigners happened and he was at the bottom I still hate them I cannot write their name
On April 22 2016 15:41 VanSCPurge wrote: All these people underestimating Dear, smh.
People forget that when Dear was at the top, he was untouchable. Zest, even at his peak has always at least looked mortal. Looks to me that Dear is really gunning for that type of power again.
Zest 4:1, knowing what herO did to Dear and where Zest is at compared to herO right now. Zest is then going to go on to win both cross finals. Excited to see how Dark and a player from kt will do against two players from kt in archon ^^ major props to kt if they get 3/4 spots in the cross finals, in my memory this domination of individual leagues is only matched by IM back in the day.
Edit: count out the first herO-Dear-game, I can't see Zest ever going for a proxy-robo.
On April 22 2016 15:44 Comeback_SC2 wrote: Zest 4:1, knowing what herO did to Dear and where Zest is at compared to herO right now. Zest is then going to go on to win both cross finals. Excited to see how Dark and a player from kt will do against two players from kt in archon ^^ major props to kt if they get 3/4 spots in the cross finals, in my memory this domination of individual leagues is only matched by IM back in the day.
That's quite unfair to see considering SKT had a player in every finals from soO vs Dear until Byul vs Rain iirc. They had a ridiculous chokehold on all leagues in Korea.
I'm not sure but he played a few very shaky series vs HerO and took a loss to Oz who then said Dear's PvP was nowhere near as good as his other matchups. He got 4-0d by San at Assembly too.
I'm not sure but he played a few very shaky series vs HerO and took a loss to Oz who then said Dear's PvP was nowhere near as good as his other matchups. He got 4-0d by San at Assembly too.
I remember those series. I also remember that losing a PvP to Oz doesn't mean too too much, considering it's always been by far his best matchup. After checking liquipedia, Dear did go on to 3-0 MC in the Ro8 to advance in WCS.
On April 22 2016 15:44 Comeback_SC2 wrote: Zest 4:1, knowing what herO did to Dear and where Zest is at compared to herO right now. Zest is then going to go on to win both cross finals. Excited to see how Dark and a player from kt will do against two players from kt in archon ^^ major props to kt if they get 3/4 spots in the cross finals, in my memory this domination of individual leagues is only matched by IM back in the day.
That's quite unfair to see considering SKT had a player in every finals from soO vs Dear until Byul vs Rain iirc. They had a ridiculous chokehold on all leagues in Korea.
Well...i have nothing left to add ^^ was there ever 3 of the top 4 players of a season from a single team? Could imagine both IM and SKT to have done so, but my memory is failing me
I'm not sure but he played a few very shaky series vs HerO and took a loss to Oz who then said Dear's PvP was nowhere near as good as his other matchups. He got 4-0d by San at Assembly too.
On April 22 2016 15:17 Seeker wrote: Dear wins 4-0. Zest is devastated. During the winner's interview, Dear all of a sudden pulls off his mask and it turns out it was Snute all along. Zest is flabbergasted but understands now why he lost 0-4.
TY responds by having Maru play for him in the finals, but Dear actually shows up and Maru gets rekt #2014boys
Nope, TY sends Maru, Maru sends sOs, Dear runs away because of fear of humiliation during interviews.
Dear sends innovation, sOs sends TaeJa.
In the end the winner of 8 player FFA BO7 will have the trophy. That sounds fair.
On April 22 2016 15:44 Comeback_SC2 wrote: Zest 4:1, knowing what herO did to Dear and where Zest is at compared to herO right now. Zest is then going to go on to win both cross finals. Excited to see how Dark and a player from kt will do against two players from kt in archon ^^ major props to kt if they get 3/4 spots in the cross finals, in my memory this domination of individual leagues is only matched by IM back in the day.
That's quite unfair to see considering SKT had a player in every finals from soO vs Dear until Byul vs Rain iirc. They had a ridiculous chokehold on all leagues in Korea.
Well...i have nothing left to add ^^ was there ever 3 of the top 4 players of a season from a single team? Could imagine both IM and SKT to have done so, but my memory is failing me
So I went out and looked, and the answer may be surprising - the only team to accomplish this is CJ, as they had herO vs. ByuL in the SSL final and ByuL vs. InnoVatioN in the GSL final in Season 3 last year. This also means KT is the first team to do it with three different players. There is currently not a single GSL or SSL where 3 of 4 semi-finalists were from the same team. Even when there were SKT-only (or IM-only) finals, they held neither semi-final spots.
This doesn't take away that SKT clearly had the most dominating individual league performance overall in HotS, but this is a particular statistic that CJ and KT top them in.