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Starting on Page 7, using the phrase, "Welfare Circus Series/System" will result in mod action. It breeds negativity and it's just generally a stupid thing to say. All in all, please stop discussing the WCS system, this thread is about the disqualification. | ||
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Starecat
940 Posts
On April 08 2016 23:23 boxerfred wrote: StarCraft 2016: Best players banned from competing internationally, formerly irrelevant players cheat the fuck out of the system. Good thing Dreamhack features other games. Sad truth. | ||
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Ensiferum8
Canada103 Posts
On April 09 2016 07:06 Thax wrote: I said i would not watch, not stop posting. Sorry if its too hard for you to understandIf all you toxic whiners would actually keep to your words when you say things like this, the WCS tournament threads might actually be worth reading again. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Gen.Rolly
United States200 Posts
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calippo
Sweden2525 Posts
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xtorn
4060 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On April 09 2016 07:06 Thax wrote: If all you toxic whiners would actually keep to your words when you say things like this, the WCS tournament threads might actually be worth reading again. Lol | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
On April 09 2016 11:40 Phredxor wrote: I saw someone show that Bunny game that lasted 20 seconds right before the cutoff for top 16. No mention of that?? Seems rather dodgy. Bunny is from TL so it could have any suspicious shits around him that it will still be Ok for him. But without any shown evidences, French players can be disqualified, I am not victimizing but clearly, justice is not the same for everyone in Starcraft II and this is very annoying. What a fucking disgrace to humiliate french community like this. I am not gonna watch this shitty tournament before they give some proofs and I hope that french fans will boycott it too. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
Decided to make a post to clean up some of the misunderstandings I saw on reddit regarding me vs Shadown close to the end of the ladder tournament: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/4dwe2l/marinelord_and_dns_are_removed_from_wcs/d1v1e37 First off, I want to explain some of the chaos that happened close to midnight. 23:45: The points were insanely close at this time, a single win or loss would be the difference maker for a lot of players. Now at this point the games got very weird. If you're losing a game there's no reason for you to leave, you can hide buildings or turtle on 1 base to drag things out past midnight. Regardless, a lot of players decided to try and get those last few points. It's true that I got a default win in my match against Shadown, but it wasn't planned nor did I ask him to leave the game. I guess he just thought it would be fun to mess with the standings. After the game he typed "Just because i like you" in chat. Of course this isn't a legit win on my side, but i wasn't even given the chance to play the game. Close to midnight a lot of strange things are bound to happen in a tournament like this. The morning after, I talked to blizzard about it and sent them the rep of my game vs Shadown. They concluded it wasn't my fault, so I was allowed to play. Hopefully this clears up the confusion about this match, thank you for reading  | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
Even IF it is what really happened, this is still totally unfair for all the others players. But I guess some can get free pass and be bordeline... Even if Bunny is not responsible (and I still have some doubts), he should be DQ. This is about fair win for everybody, not freewin but as I said in my previous post, some can get free pass. Anyway, I am still wraiting for the proofs for the case of DNs and Mlord. Since 2010; I saw a lot of stupid drama in SC2 but from my pov, this is the worst. | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
On April 09 2016 01:04 MalditoKyo wrote: This is getting ridiculous. Bly did it last year and no one bats an eye...MarineLord and DNS do it this time and they got disqualified. Logic 101 by Blizzard. Nice management! i don't understand this logic - because they did wrong in the past means they should do wrong in the present/future? | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
On April 09 2016 18:53 stilt wrote: Even IF it is what really happened, this is still totally unfair for all the others players. But I guess some can get free pass and be bordeline... Even if Bunny is not responsible (and I still have some doubts), he should be DQ. This is about fair win for everybody, not freewin but as I said in my previous post, some can get free pass. Anyway, I am still wraiting for the proofs for the case of DNs and Mlord. Since 2010; I saw a lot of stupid drama in SC2 but from my pov, this is the worst. this just gives way to more stupid stuff like the reverse - i dont like him, i am gonna give him a freewin to get him DQ. | ||
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Ppjack
Belgium489 Posts
I guess Marinelord did what he did (i'd still like transparency on the proofs) it is because he likes DnS | ||
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_Croc
Norway36 Posts
What is a win-trade? | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
On April 09 2016 20:21 _Croc wrote: Hello amigas! What is a win-trade? Match fixing. | ||
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Elentos
55573 Posts
On April 09 2016 20:21 _Croc wrote: Hello amigas! What is a win-trade? Exactly what the words mean. Trading wins for wins. I let you win some, you let me win some. Basically, losing on purpose to change ladder rankings. | ||
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DuckloadBlackra
225 Posts
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PPN
France248 Posts
On April 09 2016 08:13 thecrazymunchkin wrote: The really weird thing that I don't get is that people are trying to justify it by saying Bly got away with it last time round. You can't just say 'oh that's unfair, let's let them off this time as well'. It should've been punished last time, and assuming that their assumptions are right, it should be punished this time I don't think it is justifying Mlord and DnS cheating to say that Bly got away with a variant of that form of cheating last time. And who knows what the others have done without Blizzard noticing? There is a double standard applied. It is even more infuriating when the one benefiting from the standing correction this time is Bly himself. There is enough ambiguity in all iterations of rulebook to have done something yet they did not. The ladder qualification system is already flawed enough and Blizzard seems to struggle with a consistent ruling. And there is the Bunny case: should he be punished for it like DnS? If Blizzard do not want to do things half-assedly they should ban everyone involved in any kind of discovered arrangement for this season. I am pretty sure they won't. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
Though, is there proof. It seems like the are DQ's on a suspision, which is kinda random. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On April 09 2016 18:53 stilt wrote: Even IF it is what really happened, this is still totally unfair for all the others players. But I guess some can get free pass and be bordeline... Even if Bunny is not responsible (and I still have some doubts), he should be DQ. This is about fair win for everybody, not freewin but as I said in my previous post, some can get free pass. Anyway, I am still wraiting for the proofs for the case of DNs and Mlord. Since 2010; I saw a lot of stupid drama in SC2 but from my pov, this is the worst. Exactly. Either never allow it, or allow it. Don't make exceptions based on arbitraty reasoning. WCS tho. Refer to the rulebook kekeke | ||
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