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Has replaces Sioras in WCS Shanghai Ro8 - Page 2

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BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-25 06:30:39
March 25 2016 06:28 GMT
#21
translation verified.

Um... to be fair, however, I am not sure how good Sioras English is, and we don't know if blizzard actually published the rules in Mongolian language.

EDIT: will he be granted prize money and treated as though he had finished in Ro16?
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
AusProbe
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia235 Posts
March 25 2016 06:28 GMT
#22
On March 25 2016 15:23 rednusa wrote:
Where are the rules?

On liquipieda it is written as Sioras was disqualified for accessing Harstem's computer/replays without permission thus Has advanced to Ro8.

Couldn't Harstem just have said he gave Sioras permission to avoid this DQ?


But why would Harstem want to avoid the DQ?
Cinek357
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland119 Posts
March 25 2016 06:30 GMT
#23
On March 25 2016 15:23 rednusa wrote:

Couldn't Harstem just have said he gave Sioras permission to avoid this DQ?


Why should he? Serious question. In your opinion, why should he do that?
rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
March 25 2016 06:35 GMT
#24
To avoid having to play Has in a PvP.
AusProbe
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia235 Posts
March 25 2016 06:46 GMT
#25
On March 25 2016 15:35 rednusa wrote:
To avoid having to play Has in a PvP.


But at the same time avoiding PvZ(which I think harstem is happy about) of which his opponent knows how he plays.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 25 2016 07:12 GMT
#26
Well, Has hype! Although he probably does not have much chance ... but the idea of seeing him against the TOP Koreans on Sunday is great!

Funny that we had yesterday evening a tough discussion about how Sioras must be very stupid to do publicly what he did ... with such a high risk / low reward ratio. But probably a good decision for the organisers, although I would bet, it is not written anywhere in the rules, is is just something, you should not do.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
March 25 2016 07:54 GMT
#27
I am curious whether this occurred because of a communication error or whether he knew/suspected that it was not allowed, and attempted to do it anyway.

It's pretty common for tournaments to be horrible at presenting rules, and this is further complicated by the fact that e-sports (at least, stuff like Starcraft) has players from all over the world, fluent in different languages...
Ja.Y.
Profile Joined February 2015
United States253 Posts
March 25 2016 08:01 GMT
#28
On March 25 2016 16:12 Diabolique wrote:
Well, Has hype! Although he probably does not have much chance ... but the idea of seeing him against the TOP Koreans on Sunday is great!

Funny that we had yesterday evening a tough discussion about how Sioras must be very stupid to do publicly what he did ... with such a high risk / low reward ratio. But probably a good decision for the organisers, although I would bet, it is not written anywhere in the rules, is is just something, you should not do.


There's TOP KOREANS at this event?? I didn't realize Liquipedia was lying to me. I was just enjoying my Starcraft matches and failed to realize that Koreans were present. Man, they sure do blend in well as foreigners. Completely irrelevant but I have like 30 pounds of salt that I need to add to something but I'm not exactly sure what to add to..
MMA will reign supreme once again // MaSa is gawd
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 25 2016 08:25 GMT
#29
On March 25 2016 17:01 Ja.Y. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 16:12 Diabolique wrote:
Well, Has hype! Although he probably does not have much chance ... but the idea of seeing him against the TOP Koreans on Sunday is great!

Funny that we had yesterday evening a tough discussion about how Sioras must be very stupid to do publicly what he did ... with such a high risk / low reward ratio. But probably a good decision for the organisers, although I would bet, it is not written anywhere in the rules, is is just something, you should not do.


There's TOP KOREANS at this event?? I didn't realize Liquipedia was lying to me. I was just enjoying my Starcraft matches and failed to realize that Koreans were present. Man, they sure do blend in well as foreigners. Completely irrelevant but I have like 30 pounds of salt that I need to add to something but I'm not exactly sure what to add to..

The organizers did the great thing that after this WCS Welfare tournament, they organized a separate one-day tournament with 24 matches between the 6 foreign winners of this tournament and 6 invited TOP Koreans. So on Sunday, there will be 24 matches with TOP Koreans (TY, Dear, ByuN), very good Korean (DRG) and still very solid Koreans (Stork, ByuL) against the winners of this tournament. With all the production, casters, and prize pool 12k USD for the winners (500k for the winner of each match). Pretty hype!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 25 2016 08:27 GMT
#30
Oh they DQed him? I thought a warning was not enough and personally would've deducted prize money, but a DQ is tough, although still justified.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
March 25 2016 09:04 GMT
#31
On March 25 2016 16:54 Blargh wrote:
I am curious whether this occurred because of a communication error or whether he knew/suspected that it was not allowed, and attempted to do it anyway.

It's pretty common for tournaments to be horrible at presenting rules, and this is further complicated by the fact that e-sports (at least, stuff like Starcraft) has players from all over the world, fluent in different languages...


You really would need rules to explain to you that accessing someones personal pc behind his back so you can watch his personal, unpublished replays in order to gain an unfair edge, is at the least unethical?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 25 2016 09:11 GMT
#32
Good thing we have WCS Circuit. Time for local heroes such as Sioras to shine. I'm sure there's no korean who worked harder than him yet has no chance to earn some money outside of the harsh competition that is GSL and SSL. WCShit 2016
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
March 25 2016 09:13 GMT
#33
On March 25 2016 18:11 boxerfred wrote:
Good thing we have WCS Circuit. Time for local heroes such as Sioras to shine. I'm sure there's no korean who worked harder than him yet has no chance to earn some money outside of the harsh competition that is GSL and SSL. WCShit 2016


Eh, they'd just throw their games and get arrested anyway.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
March 25 2016 09:38 GMT
#34
I'm a bit flabbergasted that they first only give him a warning, then after Harstem spent some time practicing PvZ, they just today announce Sioras actually gets DQ'd instead.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
March 25 2016 10:09 GMT
#35
I lol'd
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coldscars
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany141 Posts
March 25 2016 10:22 GMT
#36
i wonder what was going through sioras head
\BibleThump/
ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
March 25 2016 11:00 GMT
#37
On March 25 2016 17:01 Ja.Y. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 16:12 Diabolique wrote:
Well, Has hype! Although he probably does not have much chance ... but the idea of seeing him against the TOP Koreans on Sunday is great!

Funny that we had yesterday evening a tough discussion about how Sioras must be very stupid to do publicly what he did ... with such a high risk / low reward ratio. But probably a good decision for the organisers, although I would bet, it is not written anywhere in the rules, is is just something, you should not do.


There's TOP KOREANS at this event?? I didn't realize Liquipedia was lying to me. I was just enjoying my Starcraft matches and failed to realize that Koreans were present. Man, they sure do blend in well as foreigners. Completely irrelevant but I have like 30 pounds of salt that I need to add to something but I'm not exactly sure what to add to..

Liquipedia never lied to you: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gold_Series_International_2016/All_Star_Challenge was created two weeks ago
LiquipediaBoy, these pretzels are makin' me thirsty.
oGsChess
Profile Joined September 2015
23 Posts
March 25 2016 12:32 GMT
#38
Goddamn Mongorian!

Anyways, the best example of how Has gets successful - by doing something that‘s not really cheating, but so close to cheating it‘s almost disgusting he gets through with it.
The father, the son and the holy spirit of ByuN
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
March 25 2016 12:48 GMT
#39
...and justice for all. *sigh*
don't wall off against random
ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
March 25 2016 13:28 GMT
#40
On March 25 2016 21:32 oGsChess wrote:
Goddamn Mongorian!

Anyways, the best example of how Has gets successful - by doing something that‘s not really cheating, but so close to cheating it‘s almost disgusting he gets through with it.

Has did not come close to cheating, Sioras did.
LiquipediaBoy, these pretzels are makin' me thirsty.
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