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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
January 10 2016 01:52 GMT
#801
xlord
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Sashka
Profile Joined December 2015
Venezuela8 Posts
January 10 2016 01:53 GMT
#802
Its Scarlett
The brightest angels contain the darkest demons.
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 02:14:58
January 10 2016 02:03 GMT
#803
As far as I know you wouldn't use "they" to refer to a specific person, rather as a generic reference or a reference to an individual whose identity is unknown to all (which in this instance, is not the case for Kaelaris).

You would never form a sentence like "Idra has retired, and they will not be returning". You use "he", because it's specifically Idra. This applies even to the sentence "The player I am thinking of has retired, and they will not be returning". It's still a reference specific player, you would use "he" or "she" (or "he or she").

But in a sentence like "When a player retires, they might come back at some point", you would use "they". Here the reference is generic, since it's not a specific player you are talking about. It's impersonal, just like using the word "one", as in "One should not do X". It means something completely different than "He should not do X".

Conclusion: It's must be a hint that it's vortix and lucifron
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
January 10 2016 02:07 GMT
#804
On January 10 2016 09:19 rycho wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they

That's what I'm talking about! Europeans, learn this.
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
January 10 2016 02:13 GMT
#805
My money is on Liquid Nazgul

Nazgul vs. TLO Showmatch please.
ⱩŦ ƑⱠẬ$Ħ / ƩǤ ɈƩẬƉØƝǤ [ɌȻ] / ȊṂ.ṂṼⱣ / ẬȻƩɌ.ȊƝƝØṼẬŦȊØƝ / ẬȻƩɌ.ϟȻẬɌⱠƩŦŦ ϟⱠẬɎƩɌϟ ȻⱠẬƝ
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 10 2016 02:14 GMT
#806
On January 10 2016 11:03 cheekymonkey wrote:
As far as I know you wouldn't use "they" to refer to a specific person, rather as a generic reference or a reference to an individual whose identity is unknown to all (which in this instance, is not the case for Kaelaris).

You would never form a sentence like "Idra has retired, and they will not be returning". You use "he", because it's specifically Idra. This applies even to the sentence "The player I am thinking of has retired, and they will not be returning". It's still a reference specific player, you would use "he" or "she" (or "he or she").

But in a sentence like "When a player retires, they might come back at some point", you would use "they". Here the reference is generic, since it's not a specific player you are talking about. It's impersonal, just like using the word "one", as in "one should not do X". It means something completely different than "He should not do X".

Conclusion: It's must be a hint that it's vortix and lucifron


If you're gonna read that much into the use of one word, then go back to the original tweet which says 'one of' not 'some of' the best foreigners.

One does not equal two no matter how you want to twist the english language
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 02:24:46
January 10 2016 02:17 GMT
#807
On January 10 2016 11:14 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 11:03 cheekymonkey wrote:
As far as I know you wouldn't use "they" to refer to a specific person, rather as a generic reference or a reference to an individual whose identity is unknown to all (which in this instance, is not the case for Kaelaris).

You would never form a sentence like "Idra has retired, and they will not be returning". You use "he", because it's specifically Idra. This applies even to the sentence "The player I am thinking of has retired, and they will not be returning". It's still a reference specific player, you would use "he" or "she" (or "he or she").

But in a sentence like "When a player retires, they might come back at some point", you would use "they". Here the reference is generic, since it's not a specific player you are talking about. It's impersonal, just like using the word "one", as in "one should not do X". It means something completely different than "He should not do X".

Conclusion: It's must be a hint that it's vortix and lucifron


If you're gonna read that much into the use of one word, then go back to the original tweet which says 'one of' not 'some of' the best foreigners.

One does not equal two no matter how you want to twist the english language


BUT, even if two (of the best) players are to return, "one of" would still technically be true. He might just have omitted the information regarding the other. This is a logic puzzle, dammit.

Actually, Kaelaris probably used "they" because HuK (incorrectly afaik) referred to the specific person in question as "they".
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 10 2016 02:29 GMT
#808
Hahaha, well i'm still putting my money on Moonglade!
FXOTheoRy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States519 Posts
January 10 2016 02:35 GMT
#809
kiwikaki plz
oyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoy
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
January 10 2016 05:25 GMT
#810
Maybe Slush.
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 05:46:14
January 10 2016 05:45 GMT
#811
My sources indicate pretty sure it is the Spanish brothers.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
kuan888
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada305 Posts
January 10 2016 05:51 GMT
#812
Its Shura !
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. -Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche ||| Acer.Scarlett <3
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
January 10 2016 07:51 GMT
#813
If it's not Idra, I'm not interested. Doubt it'll be him, though.
Long live the King of Wings
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
January 10 2016 08:01 GMT
#814
Please let it be Scarlett!
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
January 10 2016 08:43 GMT
#815
On January 06 2016 02:11 feebas wrote:
thorzain


I hope, or maybe its Nani and this dude is just late to the party....
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
January 10 2016 10:18 GMT
#816
They said one of the best foreigners "of all time".. let's be real, that list shouldn't probably grow much if any longer than about 5 players, i think most would agree.
twitter.com/lumigaming - DongRaeGu is the One True Dong - /r/onetruedong
Ppjack
Profile Joined March 2015
Belgium489 Posts
January 10 2016 10:26 GMT
#817
Liquid to win every archon tournament in the future !
<;o)
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
January 10 2016 10:52 GMT
#818
On January 10 2016 11:07 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 09:19 rycho wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they

That's what I'm talking about! Europeans, learn this.


Do you mean this as in UK not being European?
maru G5L pls
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 11:00:42
January 10 2016 10:59 GMT
#819
On January 10 2016 11:07 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 09:19 rycho wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they

That's what I'm talking about! Europeans, learn this.

the only people in this thread troubled with the use of "they" as gender-neutral pronoun refering to a single person have United States put as their country of residence

so lol@you

sucks that Vortix and Lucifron are leaving HotS but oh well, I hope TL can find good replacements
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 10 2016 11:40 GMT
#820
Seriously guys? You think you can trust someone who's played poker? It obviously is Jinro!
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
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