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Greatest Rivalries of SC2: NaNiwa vs ThorZain - Page 3

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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
December 16 2015 09:23 GMT
#41
Is it 2015 or I somehow travelled back into the past?
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Parser
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy87 Posts
December 16 2015 09:46 GMT
#42
On December 16 2015 18:23 Nerchio wrote:
Is it 2015 or I somehow travelled back into the past?


That would be a great time to be in.

I really miss ThorZaiN, loved him from that incredible TSL3 run.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
December 16 2015 10:18 GMT
#43
Mby my favourite rivalry in Starcraft. Damn I miss naniwa,,,
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
December 16 2015 11:06 GMT
#44
The King of the North vs The Kong of the North.
CptMarvel
Profile Joined May 2014
France236 Posts
December 16 2015 11:23 GMT
#45
I miss Thorzain and can't stand NaNiWa to the point of owing me a couple of bans on this very website.
I don't know what it is about him that makes me cringe. I usually love bad manners and verbally abusive players, but when it comes to him... bah...
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 12:20:31
December 16 2015 12:08 GMT
#46
As a thorzain fan, i want to list out couple of his achievements that i think is worthy of a mention as well.


2012 WCS Sweden Champion.

Might not seem like much now but back then Sweden was considered the strongest country besides Korea, so its WCS was considered the hardest in Europe. Not to mention, Naniwa was not even in the top 3. ( He was 4th )


Becoming the 1st Foreigner to win in Proleague in ( i think? ) 7 years when he was part of EG-TL. His overall performance in Proleague was nothing spectacular, but it was a longgggg time since any foreigner won in Proleague.

Not to mention it was quite a good game from him against Classic, who was still on Stx and was still playing terran.




For those who are wondering what thorzain is up to recently. He last updated his facebook last year, when i remembered he still took part in some WCS Europe qualifiers in his spare time but most likely he has become way too busy with medical school.

Yes, the last we heard, he was in medical school. Very fitting for the spoon terran. haha

I know Naniwa probably has reached greater heights in terms of skill.

But in mind and heart, the only person worthy of being the TRUE King in the North, will always be...


THORZAIN !!!


* and winning Dreamhack Stockholm was way more significant that the article gave him credit for. Ya sure he won it in his homeland but he also won it by beating Polt !! And that was the last time a foreigner terran won a premier tournament before bunny won another one in two or three years?
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
December 16 2015 12:17 GMT
#47
On December 16 2015 13:19 SC2BF3Love wrote:
what is thorzain playing this days? LOL? hearthstone?


He is not playing, he is studying medicine.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3437 Posts
December 16 2015 13:58 GMT
#48
I agree that Thorzain is the true king. Naniwa probably had better skill, but Thorzain was champion caliber.
It's a little sad we always look back on this and cement the retired player as stronger in such a way that the non-retired player almost can't catch up. It's the same with Life and MVP, people are like when has Life caught up? but since we've earlier acknowledged MVP as the GOAT it seems like Life will never exceed him, even though in my opinion he already has.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 14:13:17
December 16 2015 14:12 GMT
#49
I can't remember which game it was, but there was some game in the TSL that Thorzain played that was a tvp that was just like one of the most epic sc2 games of all time. It was so long ago, I can't even remember what happened. All I remember is that it was really really exciting.

Was it a tvp vs MC ?
SplattedOne
Profile Joined May 2013
155 Posts
December 16 2015 14:20 GMT
#50
Thorzain vs Naniwa at TSL 3 was the first SC2 series I ever watched. Day9's solo cast in the last game hooked me on SC2 forevermore afterward.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37034 Posts
December 16 2015 14:25 GMT
#51
The Wax pic was worth the read.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 14:40:04
December 16 2015 14:34 GMT
#52
On December 16 2015 23:12 travis wrote:
I can't remember which game it was, but there was some game in the TSL that Thorzain played that was a tvp that was just like one of the most epic sc2 games of all time. It was so long ago, I can't even remember what happened. All I remember is that it was really really exciting.

Was it a tvp vs MC ?


you have to give a bit more detail than that but if it was the series against MC, then it probably should have been game 5 where he used thors' strike cannon ability to completely annihilate MC's immortal/zealot army.



I believed that game single-handedly caused Blizzard to nerf Thors.

If it was the finals against naniwa, it was probably the sixth game when Thorzain was down 2-3 and Naniwa was preparing a stalker/sentry all in against Thorzain and when everybody thought Naniwa was going to win TSL 3, Thorzain somehow held the all-in and went on to mount his famous comeback.



Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
sagi
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland346 Posts
December 16 2015 14:44 GMT
#53
That Thorzain vs Classic game had everything right: Silly map, offensive planetary fortress, Classic playing a proper race, Bo7, Jaedong clapping...
hi patrik!
Parser
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy87 Posts
December 16 2015 14:46 GMT
#54
On December 16 2015 23:34 Kaizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 23:12 travis wrote:
I can't remember which game it was, but there was some game in the TSL that Thorzain played that was a tvp that was just like one of the most epic sc2 games of all time. It was so long ago, I can't even remember what happened. All I remember is that it was really really exciting.

Was it a tvp vs MC ?


you have to give a bit more detail than that but if it was the series against MC, then it probably should have been game 5 where he used thors' strike cannon ability to completely annihilate MC's immortal/zealot army.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw518RCm4AA

I believed that game single-handedly caused Blizzard to nerf Thors.

If it was the finals against naniwa, it was probably the sixth game when Thorzain was down 2-3 and Naniwa was preparing a stalker/sentry all in against Thorzain and when everybody thought Naniwa was going to win TSL 3, Thorzain somehow held the all-in and went on to mount his famous comeback.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_wzyMxWMNI



It could also be game 4 of the series vs MC. Back then, probably the most intense tvp ever played:

smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
December 16 2015 14:50 GMT
#55
On December 16 2015 15:41 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
I'll be honest, this video still gives me the chills and feels:




Damn, I miss green grass maps.

BRING THEM BACK!
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
December 16 2015 14:58 GMT
#56
Thanks for writing about this ! It's true, despite Naniwa being the top foreigner, Thorzain could elevate himself on those occasions, making for a nice n tidy rivalry
RewardedFool
Profile Joined July 2015
17 Posts
December 16 2015 15:25 GMT
#57
Very biased article here. Missing out the MLG global invitational win for Naniwa isn't really on. It was a stacked field where he beat NesTea and Mvp, where Thorzain's big win was against Polt and nobody else notable. Also dismissing his MLG win because the field was weak and then not taking into account his achievements when the field was inpressively strong (like at Providence)
MK4512
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada938 Posts
December 16 2015 15:34 GMT
#58
On December 16 2015 13:11 DonDomingo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 13:04 lichter wrote:
On December 16 2015 12:51 DonDomingo wrote:
On December 16 2015 12:47 kottbullar wrote:
Another angle that could have been mentioned here I think is that Naniwa has never, at any point in time, considered the clear best foreigner (He spent most of his peak under Stephano, and later on Snute/Scarlett challenged him for that spot). IIRC after TSL3, most korean interviews named Thorzain as the clear best foreigner.

Then again, at the time of TSL3, MC was considered a decent player which says everything about the legitimacy of the competition at the time.


MC reached Code S Ro16 as late as 2015 Season 1.

Show me a sane man who has the slightest clue about StarCraft who thinks the suicide toss at his prime would not be vastly inferior to Zest, herO, Rain, PartinG etc in their primes, and I'll happily stand corrected.
MC did well for himself result-wise when competition was weak, but he was never at any point a good player.


MC REINVENTED protoss play. His timing attacks were un-matched and shaped all protoss MU's until the release of LotV and the death of the forcefield as the be all end all. At their primes, the players you're talking about had the meta that MC created.

Looking back you can poke holes in anything, I bet you think Fruitdealer's play is cheesy/gimmicky.
Chill: "Please let us know when you will be streaming yourself eating a hat so I can put it on the calendar. Thanks."
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
December 16 2015 15:48 GMT
#59
Three words yet echo through the corridors of time: "CHILL GET OUT"
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3437 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 16:23:10
December 16 2015 16:22 GMT
#60
yes the epic game was the Ghost control of Thorzain blanket EMP'ing and uusage of Cloak. Back then it wasn't really seen.
didn't rewatch, but i think thorzain also did zeppelin micro with the medivacs.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
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