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Team League Special Part 3: The Greatest Players - Page 4

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jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
December 13 2015 13:37 GMT
#61
nice to see Flash at least get a mention for being such a rock for KT until 2015 where he really struggled for too long of a period (what was it, he started 0-6 or 0-7 in the year? he bounced back in a way, but ultimately his overall record was very poor for the year considering the standards he had previously set). But still deserves respect for what he did for KT in '13 and '14.

and yes, for me, it has to be Inno, Maru and sOs who have to have been the standout most consistent performers in PL in the last couple years (although yes, Maru faded hard late in 2015, shame about the wrists ). Innovation for the last couple years especially, and dang did he carry in 2015, even though he had an incredible supporting cast around him just in case he'd occasionally falter (which he didn't).

herO, soO and Zest deserve shout-outs (herO especially considering how much extra pressure was on him considering his team depth) for being pretty great performers as well, despite both the protosses having some pretty bad periods of poor form/slump on a couple of occasions.

one final thing, where the hell is Life on these lists? you'd think such an accomplished and decorated individual league player would put up better results in team leagues, more akin to someone like Innovation, but he simply hasn't, not even close. one wonders.
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
December 15 2015 07:58 GMT
#62
we need to bring back more team leagues. I miss them. speaking of teaja wasn't he in some showmatch recently? I mean I think he got swept but I remember him playing.

I'd make some comment about virus but I think the entirity of his team league career was a random 3 kill. maybe some stuff back when he first showed up but I don't think he was that successful then
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
BlackZetsu
Profile Joined October 2014
United States179 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-18 01:20:11
December 18 2015 01:20 GMT
#63
On December 12 2015 00:22 Darkhorse wrote:
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On December 11 2015 00:27 BlackZetsu wrote:
What a joke article. Doesn't even mention that had herO had the most wins in Proleague 2 years in a row, or that he's the only player to get 20 wins in Proleague in back to back years..

This post is actually wrong in every single way (well done on that little achievement!)

herO actually lead the league in wins in neither 2014 nor 2015! Maru beat him by four wins in 2014 and he was topped by Rogue, sOs, Maru, and Zest in 2015.

Now quick thinkers in the audience may have already realized that what I just said makes Maru another player to get 20 wins in back to back years (30 and 27 respectively) therefore proving the second part of your statement to be false, but as the great Billy Mays would have said, "But wait, there's more!" sOs and Zest also pulled off the back to back 20 win splits. In terms of wins over the past two years, herO is third as it goes

Maru 57
sOs 52
herO 51
Zest 48

In terms of win % herO is actually fourth on this list of players who won 20 in back to back years. (Rounded to the nearest hundredth) It goes

sOs 65%
Maru 61.96%
Zest 60.76%
herO 60%

So you see while herO is undoubtedly a great team league player and one of the best playing today, he is not THE best and frankly the fact that he was mentioned here while someone like Zest was left out should be enough to make you happy.


Regular season wins. herO even won an award for having the most wins in Proleague in back to back years at the SPL finals this year. I guess you didn't see that.
Dervish19
Profile Joined December 2015
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-28 04:03:33
December 28 2015 03:54 GMT
#64
I have questions about this statement of sOs part of the article:
However, his playoff performance was strong, as he got a triple kill against Samsung in Round 3. 2015 SPL was his best showing as he put up the numbers during the regular rounds, but also carried the team with two all kills against CJ and KT, taking the most wins for JA in the playoffs against nearly every team they went up against.

SPL 2013: 32-15 | 1-0 in ace matches
SPL 2014: 25-13 | 1-4 in ace matches
3x Kill Samsung: Shine, Stork, RorO


I went deeply in TL and did not find such matches. Instead, he played vs Solar (lost), Reality (won), Stork (won) and Armani (won).
Jin Air did not play vs Samsung in playoff at all. And how was it possible to make a triple kill in any Round if a player plays only 1-2 games in that one Round?

Is that a mistake then or I looked somewhere wrong?

but also carried the team with two all kills against CJ and KT, taking the most wins for JA in the playoffs against nearly every team they went up against.

Yet one more mistake (?). sOs did not make all-kill vs CJ, he just won 2 times.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 28 2015 04:01 GMT
#65
On December 28 2015 12:54 Dervish19 wrote:
I have questions about this statement of sOs part of the article:
Show nested quote +
However, his playoff performance was strong, as he got a triple kill against Samsung in Round 3. 2015 SPL was his best showing as he put up the numbers during the regular rounds, but also carried the team with two all kills against CJ and KT, taking the most wins for JA in the playoffs against nearly every team they went up against.

SPL 2013: 32-15 | 1-0 in ace matches
SPL 2014: 25-13 | 1-4 in ace matches
3x Kill Samsung: Shine, Stork, RorO


I went deeply in TL and did not find such matches. Instead, he played vs Solar (lost), Reality (won), Stork (won) and Armani (won).
Jin Air did not play vs Samsung in playoff at all. And how was it possible to make a triple kill in any Round if a player plays only 1-2 games in that one Round?

Is that a mistake then or I looked somewhere wrong?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Round_4
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Dervish19
Profile Joined December 2015
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-28 04:06:37
December 28 2015 04:06 GMT
#66
On December 28 2015 13:01 stuchiu wrote:
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On December 28 2015 12:54 Dervish19 wrote:
...

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Round_4

Well, sOs played and won one game vs Armani. RoRo won vs Rogue and Stork won vs Maru. That's it, no triple kill. Or am I reading the table wrongly?
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
December 28 2015 04:34 GMT
#67
On December 28 2015 13:06 Dervish19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 13:01 stuchiu wrote:
On December 28 2015 12:54 Dervish19 wrote:
...

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Round_4

Well, sOs played and won one game vs Armani. RoRo won vs Rogue and Stork won vs Maru. That's it, no triple kill. Or am I reading the table wrongly?


Look at the Round 4 Playoffs match, not the round robin
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Dervish19
Profile Joined December 2015
3 Posts
December 28 2015 04:42 GMT
#68
On December 28 2015 13:34 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 13:06 Dervish19 wrote:
On December 28 2015 13:01 stuchiu wrote:
On December 28 2015 12:54 Dervish19 wrote:
...

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Round_4

Well, sOs played and won one game vs Armani. RoRo won vs Rogue and Stork won vs Maru. That's it, no triple kill. Or am I reading the table wrongly?


Look at the Round 4 Playoffs match, not the round robin

Ty mate, I got it!
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