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BlackZetsu
Profile Joined October 2014
United States179 Posts
December 10 2015 15:27 GMT
#41
What a joke article. Doesn't even mention that had herO had the most wins in Proleague 2 years in a row, or that he's the only player to get 20 wins in Proleague in back to back years..
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 16:14:15
December 10 2015 15:44 GMT
#42
The final boss should have been top 3.
And fucking Sniper should have been on the list, because that guy was a god of Starcraft.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 15:53:22
December 10 2015 15:49 GMT
#43
On December 11 2015 00:27 BlackZetsu wrote:
What a joke article. Doesn't even mention that had herO had the most wins in Proleague 2 years in a row, or that he's the only player to get 20 wins in Proleague in back to back years..

Just because the article doesn't mention every detail about your favorite player doesn't mean it's a joke.

Actually, pretty much every player on this list would deserve their own seperate article about their team league career (and a few more that aren't even mentioned here). And for herO that would include his inability to deliver in all-kill format.
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
December 10 2015 16:00 GMT
#44
On December 11 2015 00:27 BlackZetsu wrote:
What a joke article. Doesn't even mention that had herO had the most wins in Proleague 2 years in a row, or that he's the only player to get 20 wins in Proleague in back to back years..

2014:
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
December 10 2015 16:03 GMT
#45
First of all, sOs picture reminded me this hilarious piece of art, need to see it again.

And then - not enough praise for sOs!

And to the discussion above me - I think that the "most wins" award is for wins outside of play off. Not sure though.
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
December 10 2015 16:05 GMT
#46
On December 11 2015 01:03 deacon.frost wrote:
First of all, sOs picture reminded me this hilarious piece of art, need to see it again.

And then - not enough praise for sOs!

And to the discussion above me - I think that the "most wins" award is for wins outside of play off. Not sure though.


I know, but just because it's the official award doesn't make ignoring playoff results correct.
Fact is, herO is awful in all-kill scenarios
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
December 10 2015 20:04 GMT
#47
On December 10 2015 18:05 nimdil wrote:
Wasn't Taeja's IPL TAC run made easier thanks to korean teams playing generally from different server (IIRC most of the games were played online)?
Playoffs were offline. Still impressive but Proleague is always offline.


Right it was an online event (though Taeja would have been from Korea too as Stichui points out).

Normally these types of articles put offline events on a pedestal so it's weird to see how much weight IPL TAC is being given here especially since Taeja has mostly sucked in every other teamleague he's played in (true he got an all-kill with Slayers to burst on the scene).
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3774 Posts
December 11 2015 00:35 GMT
#48
Honorable mention for Stephano's result in GSL World Championship:
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ZertoN
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany214 Posts
December 11 2015 14:20 GMT
#49
how can anyome seriously be so biased that they pick taeja over innovation as the greatest team league player of all time?
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 11 2015 15:22 GMT
#50
On December 11 2015 00:27 BlackZetsu wrote:
What a joke article. Doesn't even mention that had herO had the most wins in Proleague 2 years in a row, or that he's the only player to get 20 wins in Proleague in back to back years..

This post is actually wrong in every single way (well done on that little achievement!)

herO actually lead the league in wins in neither 2014 nor 2015! Maru beat him by four wins in 2014 and he was topped by Rogue, sOs, Maru, and Zest in 2015.

Now quick thinkers in the audience may have already realized that what I just said makes Maru another player to get 20 wins in back to back years (30 and 27 respectively) therefore proving the second part of your statement to be false, but as the great Billy Mays would have said, "But wait, there's more!" sOs and Zest also pulled off the back to back 20 win splits. In terms of wins over the past two years, herO is third as it goes

Maru 57
sOs 52
herO 51
Zest 48

In terms of win % herO is actually fourth on this list of players who won 20 in back to back years. (Rounded to the nearest hundredth) It goes

sOs 65%
Maru 61.96%
Zest 60.76%
herO 60%

So you see while herO is undoubtedly a great team league player and one of the best playing today, he is not THE best and frankly the fact that he was mentioned here while someone like Zest was left out should be enough to make you happy.
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Frenchy91
Profile Joined August 2015
France36 Posts
December 11 2015 16:23 GMT
#51
What a joke... Taeja is not a great team league player... Stop this liquid bias it's more and more ridiculous.

Innovation is the best when it comes to team league.
INnoVation SoO
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 11 2015 21:31 GMT
#52
Good recap - agree with the top 3. Taeja did win a GSTL or two while on Slayers right?
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 11 2015 21:32 GMT
#53
On December 11 2015 23:20 ZertoN wrote:
how can anyome seriously be so biased that they pick taeja over innovation as the greatest team league player of all time?


It's not Taeja > Inno, he didn't bother ranking the top 3.

Probably be something like Inno -> MMA -> Taeja
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
December 11 2015 22:14 GMT
#54
On December 12 2015 06:31 Bagration wrote:
Good recap - agree with the top 3. Taeja did win a GSTL or two while on Slayers right?


Wasn't on Slayers for their first win I believe.

IIRC his debut was in the second GSTL they won (when he all-killed Zenex). Went 0-1 as the starter next match (cuz how can you not start someone who all-killed?) then wasn't fielded in the finals.

I forgot how short GSTL's were, only 3 rounds, which does make his contribution more significant than I originally thought.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 12 2015 03:10 GMT
#55
Not a fan of leaving out PL stats to reinforce Taeja & MMA's "Greatest" narratives when you include them for DRG and other "Great" players who played over multiple eras.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 12 2015 03:25 GMT
#56
On December 12 2015 06:32 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 23:20 ZertoN wrote:
how can anyome seriously be so biased that they pick taeja over innovation as the greatest team league player of all time?


It's not Taeja > Inno, he didn't bother ranking the top 3.


The list is very clearly not numbered so I dunno why people assume it's in order
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Shyft
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada37 Posts
December 12 2015 05:58 GMT
#57
I know he disappeared and everyone forgot about him, but MKP should get an honorable mention, he was an absolute monster back in the old school GSTL days
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 12 2015 06:07 GMT
#58
On December 12 2015 14:58 Shyft wrote:
I know he disappeared and everyone forgot about him, but MKP should get an honorable mention, he was an absolute monster back in the old school GSTL days


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Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
December 12 2015 11:30 GMT
#59
On December 12 2015 06:32 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 23:20 ZertoN wrote:
how can anyome seriously be so biased that they pick taeja over innovation as the greatest team league player of all time?


It's not Taeja > Inno, he didn't bother ranking the top 3.

Probably be something like Inno -> MMA -> Taeja


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Inno >>>>> who fucking cares who is second ?? Inno is going to win no matter what
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
December 12 2015 13:26 GMT
#60
TaeJa vs YongHwa on Antiga was stupidly good. What a performance he achieved. Unfortunately IPL TAC 3 still remains as one of the most embarrassing tournaments downtime-wise.
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