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Based on the official Police investigation, only the above players have been implicated in matchfixing. There is no reason to further accuse other players and teams until we get more information. Incessant blind accusations will not be tolerated. Please read the thread and the updates before posting.

As of page 54 we will be moderating against match fixing accusations for players who were not caught in this incident, including those using voided Pinnacle bets as evidence.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 19 2015 02:25 GMT
#461
On October 19 2015 11:24 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 11:22 IndoKoreanMuslim wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:21 oGoZenob wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:19 DCStarcraftGall wrote:
http://www.kookje.co.kr/news2011/asp/newsbody.asp?code=0300&key=20151019.99002105835
http://news.khan.co.kr/kh_news/khan_art_view.html?artid=201510191039101&code=940301

The Changwon General attorney has indicted 12 ppl (I think 11 is right though) including Gerrard and YoDa.
Brokers are 4 (currently) including broker Choi(39), and 2 members of a Korean gang. Gerrard and the player(s) have gotten 5000$ ~ 20,000$ per matchfix (Suspected 5 matches) while gang members got 40,000$, and brokers 30,000$

* I translated 10,000 KRW into 10USD. only a rough estimate of money.

that's a shit ton of money. Is esport betting such a huge thing in korea ?

match-fixing in general is nothing new in Korea, every major sport has seen a similar scandal in the past decade

yeah but if we're talking hundred thousand for a sole proleague match, i cant even imagine how much money there is in sports betting


What do you think millionaires sand billionaires do with their money? Let it sit around. Who cares if they win or lose 50k on a bet?
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 02:26:16
October 19 2015 02:25 GMT
#462
Tournaments that were affected were: SPL, GSL, and SSL 2015 Season 1. Between January - June.
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vhapter
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil677 Posts
October 19 2015 02:26 GMT
#463
On October 19 2015 11:19 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 11:17 vhapter wrote:
You guys are definitely misinterpreting what Wolf said. Pretty sure he was worried like many people here, but it seemed like he knew more than us about who was on the list. Obviously, he didn't know anything, otherwise he'd have twitted the name of the players right away.


I'm quite inclined to believe this but the wording of his tweet suggests that he actually knows who.

Yeah, maybe he could have worded it a little better. Either way, he said he was waiting for the announcement just like us and clearly didn't gives us any names at the time. Tweets can be misleading at times too.

I know how many times I told my ex-girlfriend one thing on the messenger and she completely misinterpreted what I meant. I always tried to explain it later, but she just wouldn't care because she was already pissed off. Human beings are weird like that...
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 19 2015 02:26 GMT
#464
On October 19 2015 11:24 DCStarcraftGall wrote:
Gerrard has apparently wheedled YoDa into matchfixing. What a coach and what a player.


gerrard, is worse than ma trash.

didn't think it was possible.
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equin0xx
Profile Joined April 2011
17 Posts
October 19 2015 02:26 GMT
#465


I mean, even crank makes it sound like players suspected it was happening a lot more than just one coach and one player...
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 19 2015 02:26 GMT
#466
phew, just Wolf making another wrong call.

Nothing to see here, move along.
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Kosko_s
Profile Joined December 2014
Malaysia24 Posts
October 19 2015 02:26 GMT
#467
holy there are confirmed 5 matches. Thats anywhere from $25,000-$100,000 dollars in fixed matches more then all of primes winnings this yera
It makes sense if you don't think about it.
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
October 19 2015 02:27 GMT
#468
On October 19 2015 11:25 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 11:24 oGoZenob wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:22 IndoKoreanMuslim wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:21 oGoZenob wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:19 DCStarcraftGall wrote:
http://www.kookje.co.kr/news2011/asp/newsbody.asp?code=0300&key=20151019.99002105835
http://news.khan.co.kr/kh_news/khan_art_view.html?artid=201510191039101&code=940301

The Changwon General attorney has indicted 12 ppl (I think 11 is right though) including Gerrard and YoDa.
Brokers are 4 (currently) including broker Choi(39), and 2 members of a Korean gang. Gerrard and the player(s) have gotten 5000$ ~ 20,000$ per matchfix (Suspected 5 matches) while gang members got 40,000$, and brokers 30,000$

* I translated 10,000 KRW into 10USD. only a rough estimate of money.

that's a shit ton of money. Is esport betting such a huge thing in korea ?

match-fixing in general is nothing new in Korea, every major sport has seen a similar scandal in the past decade

yeah but if we're talking hundred thousand for a sole proleague match, i cant even imagine how much money there is in sports betting


What do you think millionaires sand billionaires do with their money? Let it sit around. Who cares if they win or lose 50k on a bet?

i doubt you'll stay millionaire really long doing this
I like starcraft
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 02:29:07
October 19 2015 02:27 GMT
#469
On October 19 2015 11:25 Seeker wrote:
Tournaments that were affected were: SPL, GSL, and SSL 2015 Season 1. Between January - June.


can't only be Yoda, then?

Unless they count the Quals for SSL, maybe.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
October 19 2015 02:27 GMT
#470
On October 19 2015 11:22 stargunner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 11:18 Grettin wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:16 sharkie wrote:
Why is everyone hating on Wolf?
It's pretty clear that kespa won't give us all the information as long as they are not 100% sure


Hate is a strong word.. He made this sound like the end of the world. Everyone knew Gerrad and Yoda were involved, since their names were the first to be released.


haha what a tool. he really needs to learn when to keep his mouth shut.

"haha what a tool. he really needs to learn when to keep his mouth shut."
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 19 2015 02:27 GMT
#471
On October 19 2015 11:25 Seeker wrote:
Tournaments that were affected were: SPL, GSL, and SSL 2015 Season 1. Between January - June.


Yoda could account for GSL s1, maybe, but not SSL.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 19 2015 02:27 GMT
#472
On October 19 2015 11:27 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 11:25 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:24 oGoZenob wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:22 IndoKoreanMuslim wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:21 oGoZenob wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:19 DCStarcraftGall wrote:
http://www.kookje.co.kr/news2011/asp/newsbody.asp?code=0300&key=20151019.99002105835
http://news.khan.co.kr/kh_news/khan_art_view.html?artid=201510191039101&code=940301

The Changwon General attorney has indicted 12 ppl (I think 11 is right though) including Gerrard and YoDa.
Brokers are 4 (currently) including broker Choi(39), and 2 members of a Korean gang. Gerrard and the player(s) have gotten 5000$ ~ 20,000$ per matchfix (Suspected 5 matches) while gang members got 40,000$, and brokers 30,000$

* I translated 10,000 KRW into 10USD. only a rough estimate of money.

that's a shit ton of money. Is esport betting such a huge thing in korea ?

match-fixing in general is nothing new in Korea, every major sport has seen a similar scandal in the past decade

yeah but if we're talking hundred thousand for a sole proleague match, i cant even imagine how much money there is in sports betting


What do you think millionaires sand billionaires do with their money? Let it sit around. Who cares if they win or lose 50k on a bet?

i doubt you'll stay millionaire really long doing this


You'd be surprised
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Megakenny
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada829 Posts
October 19 2015 02:28 GMT
#473
On October 19 2015 11:26 equin0xx wrote:
https://twitter.com/AxCranK/status/655908121458642944

I mean, even crank makes it sound like players suspected it was happening a lot more than just one coach and one player...


I think a lot of that could just conjecture though.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 19 2015 02:28 GMT
#474
On October 19 2015 11:28 Megakenny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 11:26 equin0xx wrote:
https://twitter.com/AxCranK/status/655908121458642944

I mean, even crank makes it sound like players suspected it was happening a lot more than just one coach and one player...


I think a lot of that could just conjecture though.


But TL won't hang Crank for saying it cause he's Korean, just sayin
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
October 19 2015 02:28 GMT
#475
so wolf was informed on the actual playerlist but misinformed on the fact that it wouldnt be included in the press release and was panic tweeting and is now backpeddling?

why so 진지해?
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
October 19 2015 02:29 GMT
#476
On October 19 2015 11:27 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 11:25 Seeker wrote:
Tournaments that were affected were: SPL, GSL, and SSL 2015 Season 1. Between January - June.


can't only be Yoda, then?

yeah it's definitely not only Yoda
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
October 19 2015 02:29 GMT
#477
Well, Wolf's reaction is because he probably knows about other matches and players involved and he thought they all would be revealed now, which wasn't the case.

Wolf Schröder ‏@proxywolf 12m12 minutes ago
The official police statement does not release names other than Gerrard and Yoda, and says at this time there are 5 CONFIRMED fixed matches.

See as "confirmed" is written is Capslock on his tweet
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15953 Posts
October 19 2015 02:29 GMT
#478
On October 19 2015 11:26 equin0xx wrote:
https://twitter.com/AxCranK/status/655908121458642944

I mean, even crank makes it sound like players suspected it was happening a lot more than just one coach and one player...


Why does it affect players who aren't involved in matchfixing. Outside of getting a few freewins it doesn't really make a difference for them, does it?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 19 2015 02:29 GMT
#479
On October 19 2015 11:26 equin0xx wrote:
https://twitter.com/AxCranK/status/655908121458642944

I mean, even crank makes it sound like players suspected it was happening a lot more than just one coach and one player...


Suspected match fixing is a very strange thing to lose passion from.

The most direct consequence of match fixing for any innocent player is a free win.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 19 2015 02:29 GMT
#480
I love how some naive guys really think gerrard and yoda is all there is to it. The next days/weeks will be very interesting
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