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WCS Tiebreaker: FanTaSy vs HyuN - WCS 2015

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Graphics byshiroiusagi
October 4th, 2015 21:08 GMT

A Fight For Freedom

by Zealously



There are many kinds of players converging on the WCS Global Finals. The champions, laying claim to championships numbering dozens between them. The winless, players of indisputable prowess whose trophy cabinets stand empty not for their own lack of merit - but for the outstanding abilities of others. herO, Maru and Life stand at the forefront of the first category, while players such as Dream and ByuL headline the second. Indeed, the players belonging to these categories by far outnumber any outliers, because the WCS system greatly rewards players achieving high peaks. Life and Maru - possessed of two of the highest peaks this year - both secured their tickets to Blizzcon early, and once ByuL hit his stride he quickly cut his way through the rankings to arrive safely at 8th place, accruing nearly 4000 points in a span of two months. Last year was strikingly similar, where nearly every player boasted either championships or, at the very least, multiple close calls.

HyuN and FanTaSy are, for the most part, outliers. In more ways than one, the two players vying for the coveted sixteenth and final spot at Blizzcon (and the somewhat less coveted match against herO) are drastically different from their field of competition. Not only do they not adhere to the commonality of a mostly streamlined metagame, they find their success in breadth rather than height, diligently striving for success in multitude rather than in concentration, traveling far and wide instead of buckling down to take on the gauntlet posed by the Korean scene.

What should be considered their greatest strength - resilience and an unflinching will to continue to compete in the face of lacking results - can also be construed as their common weakness. Fallen from the very top, both HyuN and FanTaSy are players with memories of having more. Of being more. HyuN's legacy in Starcraft II might foremost be one of almost and not quite, but his mark on the competitive scene is undeniable. From humble beginnings as an amiable but mostly harmless Brood War player to being the first "elephant" reaching a GSL finals and becoming one of the most successful globetrotter players of 2013, Spider Hyun has carved for himself a niche in the game: perhaps not all that he had hoped for or all that he could have achieved, but respectable and memorable nonetheless.



FanTaSy, contrary to his opponent, was once the very best. He might never have received the recognition he so deserved, and Brood War's final hours might well have come too soon for the SKT Terran, but he left the game with a reputation of indomitability and near-enough peerless play. As the last professional Brood War tournament concluded, FanTaSy's record of five OSL finals (and an additional two semifinals) was second to only a select few in the game's decade-long history, and his influence on the game could not be overlooked. He has not been invisible in Starcraft II by any stretch of the imagination, but to the lofty expectations set by his ascent in Brood War, FanTaSy could just as well have been a B-teamer. Not to say that he has not provided memorable moments aplenty in Starcraft II:



But although his offbeat style has gradually edged towards a more familiar and standard brand of Terran, the man once nicknamed the Terrorist for his brilliant and aggressive use of vultures and mines still inhabits his own little perch of Terran. He is a player, one of few, that bullheadedly fights for himself with no regard for others. In many ways, his venture into Starcraft II mirrors his deceptively long history in Brood War. Successes never admitted, victories never recognized, great moments overshadowed by others. That is what FanTaSy is about - the long run, the fight against odds that never seems to end. He fought an uphill battle against the presence of a dominant and immensely popular quartet in Brood War, seemingly doomed to walk in shadow. In Starcraft II, he has doggedly rebuilt himself, climbed from a place of weakness to a place where the fight lies with him. Anyone that has watched FanTaSy's games - be they in Brood War or Starcraft II - knows that he can be the most scrappy player in the world, epitomizing the mantra of "Never surrender" in such a manner that it puts even Marineking to shame. He can play the ugliest manner of game, so entirely unconvincing as to draw the harshest of criticisms, to force that one unlikely moment - the one instant - that gives him the victory.

FanTaSy is not immensely talented, but driven by a desire - a need - to win. It is a driving force, a fuel for a competitive spirit rivaled by few. A need to prove himself. In this, HyuN is much the same. This is his tenth year of progaming, his tenth year of chasing success that has come to him only sporadically, to achieve dominance that has been afforded him for only short periods in a very long career. In leaving Brood War for Starcraft II, HyuN let go of stability and security for a chance at greatness. He saw an opportunity and seized it, made from it the most that he could. FanTaSy was forced from his stability, from his place of strength, and took a leap of his own - from SK Telecom to Dead Pixels, an almost entirely unknown foreign team.



Both HyuN and FanTaSy have made it here, to the very doorstep of the year's by far most important tournament, with sheer strength of will. Where skill fails them, where preparation deserts them, where their best efforts leave them trailing greater players, they have never admitted defeat. They have crisscrossed the globe in a madman's hunt for WCS points, scavenging chump change where the champions have raked in thousands, and never stopped to rest. It might not be the glorious road they both desire, or the noble rise to power we so often praise, but it is a road, the dirty road, the arduous road.

For HyuN, the journey has been almost surreal. From an unlikely quarterfinals run in the first season of Starleague to a silver medal behind Solar at Dreamhack Stockholm in the eleventh hour, HyuN's year has been as eventful as it has been varied. Zergs elsewhere struggle with mech, facing considerable adversity in their hunt for a solution to the powerful Terran late game, but HyuN does not bend knee to standard. His roaches are as ubiquitous now as they were in 2012, and his all-ins are every bit as common now as they have ever been. That he can still use them, and still achieve the degree of success he has, speaks more to the merits of his mind and mettle than he is given credit for. Like FanTaSy, it is ugly. Like his opponent plays, so does he - scrappy, underhanded, different. The more you look, the clearer it becomes that HyuN and FanTaSy share commonalities beyond their histories, beyond their approaches to the game. Two sides of a coin.


Like the fiercest of attack dogs, when HyuN bites he never lets go.


But even a coinflip must end one way or the other. Even mirror images have their differences, however small, and in this face-off one must come out ahead of the other. One will touch down in Anaheim alongside fifteen other players three weeks from now, while the other must watch from the sidelines, first among the losers. A hair's width of difference, but enormously important.

FanTaSy and HyuN came face-to-face mere weeks ago, where they faced off in the Ro16 of Dreamhack Stockholm. HyuN played to his strengths while minding FanTaSy's, and overcame the Terrorist's late game with an unorthodox viper-heavy style, while his mid game was cut short by a barrage of attacks in keeping with the Roach King's favorite approach. It was not a proud outing for FanTaSy, and it very nearly eliminated him from Blizzcon contention. He has been given one last chance, a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to not only get back at HyuN tenfold, but to place himself in the company of players many times outmatching him. It may sound a grim prospect, fighting one nemesis for the chance to play another even more fearsome one, but if there is something FanTaSy has proven without a doubt, it is that the peculiar and the unbelievable lay firmly within reach of his fingers. What do Rain, Zest, soO and Innovation have in common? They presently count among the very best the Korean scene has to offer. What else do they have in common? They have all been beaten in offline settings by FanTaSy this year.

This is not a match that can be passed off as easy to predict, and FanTaSy's victory over HyuN might be a far cry less likely than the reverse. HyuN will show up ready to fight tooth and nail (or rather, roach and baneling), and there is no telling whether FanTaSy can do the same. He will try, just as he always does, but trying is not always enough. This is the first time in Starcraft II that FanTaSy has been allowed the preparation afforded Starleague playoffs, a setting with which he is intimately familiar. For a player whose Starcraft II career has been one of perennial disappointments, flashes of brilliance amid oceans of muck and misery, this is his opportunity. A trite cliche, perhaps, but I cannot see a world in which HyuN's desire for this victory is as intense as FanTaSy's.

When reduced to nothing, when you have only your own resilience to rely on, when you face a player who has defeated you in the past and now stands in the way of lasting glory, that is when a player's true mettle is put on display. When skill alone will not carry you all the way, when you must be prepared to be both clever and dirty, that is when FanTaSy is given his greatest opportunity to shine. It is this, or nothing. This is the fight for for redemption - for acceptance in a scene that worships champions and gives no credit to the weak but determined, to the wayside competitor whose greatest strength is their defiance in the face of defeat.

This is the fight for freedom.




FanTaSy 3 - 2 HyuN


Writer: Zealously
Graphics:shiroiusagi
Photo Credit: Shayla, Kevin Chang, SpoTV
Stats: Aligulac
Editors: Zealously
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
October 04 2015 21:09 GMT
#2
Come on FanTa !
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
October 04 2015 21:17 GMT
#3
Ugh it is hard to root against any of them, it is gonna be close.
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47656 Posts
October 04 2015 21:18 GMT
#4
HyuN 3-1
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Charoisaur
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Germany15967 Posts
October 04 2015 21:22 GMT
#5
tiebreaker to decide who gets destroyed by herO
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Musicus
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Germany23576 Posts
October 04 2015 21:24 GMT
#6
Go FanTa!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 04 2015 21:25 GMT
#7
Cheering for HyuN here, but yeah independently of who wins, herO will 3-0 the winner. So who cares, basically.
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Die4Ever
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United States17676 Posts
October 04 2015 21:34 GMT
#8
SO HYPE! I still think it's crazy that Hyun had to beat Fantasy in order to tie him and then rematch to actually qualify. GOGO HYUN!
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The_Templar
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your Country52797 Posts
October 04 2015 21:42 GMT
#9
FanTaSy to win blizzcon.
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Germany913 Posts
October 04 2015 21:42 GMT
#10
Long live Fantasy!
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United States777 Posts
October 04 2015 21:44 GMT
#11
head: hyun
heart: hyun
terrible, terrible, damage
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United States2302 Posts
October 04 2015 21:47 GMT
#12
I think Hyun got it
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October 04 2015 21:48 GMT
#13
FFFFAAAAANNNNNNTTTTTTAAAAAA!!!
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
October 04 2015 21:53 GMT
#14
I want Fantasy to get into Blizzcon really badly but I do love HyuN.
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Profile Joined December 2014
United States12 Posts
October 04 2015 22:01 GMT
#15
I hope Fantasy pulls through <3
yip.man
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24 Posts
October 04 2015 22:21 GMT
#16
no one of them thesrve to be in blizzcon
blizzcon will miss soO
revalence123
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States102 Posts
October 04 2015 22:22 GMT
#17
Damn this series is gonna be clutch as fuck
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 04 2015 22:53 GMT
#18
This series could be pretty good, but I don't really feel hype about it since I think herO will stomp either one

I like Fantasy more but HyuN making his 3rd Blizzcon would also be cool, especially considering he's so old and was once on the edge of retiring.
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United States11403 Posts
October 04 2015 22:58 GMT
#19
There's enough time for a Liquibet, right?
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necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
October 04 2015 23:05 GMT
#20
watch Hyun pause the game and scumbag his way to victory
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Belgium365 Posts
October 04 2015 23:25 GMT
#21
Fantasy ! It's your Time
Carminedust
Profile Joined October 2014
487 Posts
October 04 2015 23:27 GMT
#22
really pulling for Fantasy on this one
Maybe was Zoun only Fan before he retired idk
ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
October 04 2015 23:34 GMT
#23
On October 05 2015 07:21 yip.man wrote:
no one of them thesrve to be in blizzcon
blizzcon will miss soO


You are probably confusing soO with Dark...

Both HyuN and Fantasy earned more WCS points in Korean leagues than soO this year
The other race is OP
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
October 04 2015 23:45 GMT
#24
On October 05 2015 07:21 yip.man wrote:
no one of them thesrve to be in blizzcon
blizzcon will miss soO


I hate posts like these. soO didn't get the points required so he doesn't deserve anything.
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Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 05 2015 00:01 GMT
#25
For Fantasy's sake I hope there isn't any restarts.
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Canada8304 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-05 00:16:52
October 05 2015 00:14 GMT
#26
Head: Fantasy
Heart: Hyun

No longer Hyunstoppable, but still capable of the Hyunbelievable.

Edit:
Then again maybe I'm honestly under rating Hyun. After all, significant time for preparation for a match?

Hyun has done that before. 14 times in a row...
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Australia30 Posts
October 05 2015 00:31 GMT
#27
As a Protoss fan, I'm not too concerned with who wins this but I've heard Hyun is good mates with MC so I hope he comes away with the win
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United States1102 Posts
October 05 2015 00:33 GMT
#28
FANTASY HYPE
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France236 Posts
October 05 2015 00:36 GMT
#29
"FanTaSy is not immensely talented" WOW WOW WOW
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United States328 Posts
October 05 2015 00:41 GMT
#30
Hyun will win
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Korea (South)335 Posts
October 05 2015 01:43 GMT
#31
Its kinda sad for both of these players that they are playing this just to meet herO in RO16.
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United States2602 Posts
October 05 2015 01:54 GMT
#32
Fantasy FIGHTING

Can't imagine that either of them will get past herO, but one can hope...
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United States13974 Posts
October 05 2015 02:02 GMT
#33
really cool hype preview, but in the end, neither will even make it to map 5 vs herO
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United States17676 Posts
October 05 2015 02:24 GMT
#34
On October 05 2015 08:34 ivancype wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 07:21 yip.man wrote:
no one of them thesrve to be in blizzcon
blizzcon will miss soO


You are probably confusing soO with Dark...

Both HyuN and Fantasy earned more WCS points in Korean leagues than soO this year

soO
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United States1024 Posts
October 05 2015 03:40 GMT
#35
SICK WRITE UP
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October 05 2015 03:45 GMT
#36
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United States97276 Posts
October 05 2015 04:01 GMT
#37
I'm not a Hyun fan at all but he is just playing extremely well lately. I think Fantasy will be hard pressed to win this. I expect to see Hyun make it to Blizzcon
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United States123 Posts
October 05 2015 04:11 GMT
#38
On October 05 2015 08:45 kaykoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 07:21 yip.man wrote:
no one of them thesrve to be in blizzcon
blizzcon will miss soO


I hate posts like these. soO didn't get the points required so he doesn't deserve anything.


In case you missed it, soO actually won a premier tournament this year. In Korea. Care to name a premier tournament FanTaSy has won this year? Or a major one? Or even a minor one?
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Hungary5029 Posts
October 05 2015 04:45 GMT
#39
C'mon Fanta!
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Sweden292 Posts
October 05 2015 06:51 GMT
#40
This is very well written!
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United States6335 Posts
October 05 2015 06:53 GMT
#41
3-1
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Sweden292 Posts
October 05 2015 06:56 GMT
#42
On October 05 2015 13:11 feanaro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 08:45 kaykoose wrote:
On October 05 2015 07:21 yip.man wrote:
no one of them thesrve to be in blizzcon
blizzcon will miss soO


I hate posts like these. soO didn't get the points required so he doesn't deserve anything.


In case you missed it, soO actually won a premier tournament this year. In Korea. Care to name a premier tournament FanTaSy has won this year? Or a major one? Or even a minor one?


Can you make a small list of The other things soo did? Oh you cant? Why is that? ;-)
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3410 Posts
October 05 2015 06:56 GMT
#43
Head: HyuN
Heart: FanTaSy

...rooting for FanTaSy but I fear HyuN's roach timings will prevail... in any case, hoping for a tight series even if the prize for winning is getting herO in the ro16 that, as it goes these days, it's like saying "hey, gratz, you won! let's celebrate with a punch in the nuts!"
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Veluvian
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Bulgaria256 Posts
October 05 2015 07:24 GMT
#44
More food for herO...
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Poland8852 Posts
October 05 2015 07:27 GMT
#45
Aware of the risk of being caught by the hype police, I will say that this is the saddest match of the year - somehow reflecting the sad reality of the single-elimination tournament that follows. Watching the race for top16 is always fun (especially in the world that contatins Die4ever) and probably the most thrilling thing in SC2 - but there is always the devil behind your ear telling you that the people outside the top of the Korean competition (be it the travelling mercenaries, or the rare odd foreigner) have very little chance of anything else that going out swiftly in the first round. It does not really matter that the winner of this plays herO - in the top8 there isn't really anyone Fanta or Hyun would be even remotely favoured against and even if a surprise were to happen in the Ro16, what then? It's really the same as the "yay Lillbow got top16, oh he's playing Life in Ro16 ... but who else would you want him to get anyway from THAT list?" sequence of thoughts.

This is not meant to be a complaint, there really is no great solution - and the current system with two cups in Korea and only one global is pretty good in that it has limited the outsiders to just 4 people (Polt, Hydra, Lilbow and the winner of this), but it doesn't really make for aq good tiebreaker hype.
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Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 05 2015 07:36 GMT
#46
Voting for Hyun here.
Fantasy does not stand any chance against herO. Hyun on the other hand might crush him with his aggression.
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
October 05 2015 07:39 GMT
#47
Fanta fighting!
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Denmark1338 Posts
October 05 2015 08:22 GMT
#48
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Germany622 Posts
October 05 2015 08:28 GMT
#49
Fanta has to lose here in order to save Hyun's smile
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Japan39 Posts
October 05 2015 09:14 GMT
#50
fantasy fantasy
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United States1102 Posts
October 05 2015 09:37 GMT
#51
SC2 eSports will die if FanTaSy doesn't make it to Blizzcon. :O

You heard it here first folks.
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Germany612 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-05 09:49:14
October 05 2015 09:47 GMT
#52
On October 05 2015 10:43 Estancia wrote:
Its kinda sad for both of these players that they are playing this just to meet herO in RO16.


Travel is paid and you get 5000 $ for just competing in the ro16 - that's like winning small major tournament. I don't think the players are too unhappy to participate just to lose against herO

(and, well, you never know - greater upsets have happened)
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Norway2 Posts
October 05 2015 09:59 GMT
#53
To get to the WCS Global Finals is an achievement of it's own. Like qualifying for the world cup in football (soccer) is a huge achievement for my country. The player who wins can also say he was top 16 in the world in 2015. Really liked this article
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France10201 Posts
October 05 2015 10:08 GMT
#54
DO IT FANTA !
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Germany393 Posts
October 05 2015 10:27 GMT
#55
HyuNNNN! <3
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United States123 Posts
October 05 2015 14:00 GMT
#56
On October 05 2015 15:56 SamuelGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 13:11 feanaro wrote:
On October 05 2015 08:45 kaykoose wrote:
On October 05 2015 07:21 yip.man wrote:
no one of them thesrve to be in blizzcon
blizzcon will miss soO


I hate posts like these. soO didn't get the points required so he doesn't deserve anything.


In case you missed it, soO actually won a premier tournament this year. In Korea. Care to name a premier tournament FanTaSy has won this year? Or a major one? Or even a minor one?


Can you make a small list of The other things soo did? Oh you cant? Why is that? ;-)


I can, actually. For starters he has a ridiculous 75% winrate in proleague. He actually got a spot at IEM the hard way, by qualifying (as opposed to FanTaSy who got knocked out i the ro32 of the Korean qualifier and so had to get invited). Incidentally, soO also beat FanTaSy in the semifinals of that tournament. And then I guess I could mention that soO won the ridiculously stacked Leifeng monthly cup #3 where almost every Kespa player was in attendance. Now care to make a list for FanTaSy?
Executer08
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany163 Posts
October 05 2015 14:36 GMT
#57
On October 05 2015 16:27 opisska wrote:
Aware of the risk of being caught by the hype police, I will say that this is the saddest match of the year - somehow reflecting the sad reality of the single-elimination tournament that follows.


but there is always the devil behind your ear telling you that the people outside the top of the Korean competition (be it the travelling mercenaries, or the rare odd foreigner) have very little chance of anything else that going out swiftly in the first round


fantasy has always been a player with great preparation and has shown in the past that he can beat pretty much anybody, for example at IEM gamescom where he was the only one to defeat innovation. hyun 3:1'ed rain at dreamhack and parting a month ago. both of these guys have very special playstyles and the skillset to win at blizzcon, even vs herO. so i dont see at all how this is supposed to be the saddest match of the year.
for the second part, taeja has been outside of the top of the korean competition last year and beat soO and innovation decisively at blizzcon. life had to pull out his special tactics to overcome him. the same goes for MMA who made it to the finals. jaedong 2013 wasnt competing in korea either. naniwa did go out in the first round but considering soulkey was a beast at the time he didnt make too bad of an effort and i believe that lilbow can do even better vs life in their current shapes.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 05 2015 16:05 GMT
#58
I am sorry, but I still don't consider one match on a weekend tourney to be indicative of anything. Also 2015 was very different than the years before, the competition really shifted towards Korea since the change in WCS format.
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snzStorm
Profile Joined August 2015
Russian Federation20 Posts
October 05 2015 16:08 GMT
#59
Preview picture is wrong:
aligulac says FanTaSy has 179–116 (60.68%) score against Z while HyuN has (65.60%) 675–354 against T
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
October 05 2015 16:09 GMT
#60
Please FanTaSy...
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
October 05 2015 16:23 GMT
#61
Good luck to both of them. May the best player win.
....
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
October 05 2015 16:51 GMT
#62
Go fanta!
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
October 05 2015 17:48 GMT
#63
On October 05 2015 07:58 Circumstance wrote:
There's enough time for a Liquibet, right?

I have no idea how many points to award a tie-breaker match.
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SamuelGreen
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden292 Posts
October 05 2015 17:49 GMT
#64
On October 05 2015 23:00 feanaro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 15:56 SamuelGreen wrote:
On October 05 2015 13:11 feanaro wrote:
On October 05 2015 08:45 kaykoose wrote:
On October 05 2015 07:21 yip.man wrote:
no one of them thesrve to be in blizzcon
blizzcon will miss soO


I hate posts like these. soO didn't get the points required so he doesn't deserve anything.


In case you missed it, soO actually won a premier tournament this year. In Korea. Care to name a premier tournament FanTaSy has won this year? Or a major one? Or even a minor one?


Can you make a small list of The other things soo did? Oh you cant? Why is that? ;-)


I can, actually. For starters he has a ridiculous 75% winrate in proleague. He actually got a spot at IEM the hard way, by qualifying (as opposed to FanTaSy who got knocked out i the ro32 of the Korean qualifier and so had to get invited). Incidentally, soO also beat FanTaSy in the semifinals of that tournament. And then I guess I could mention that soO won the ridiculously stacked Leifeng monthly cup #3 where almost every Kespa player was in attendance. Now care to make a list for FanTaSy?


You just can't get over the fact that the players that YOU feel deserve a spot, didn't get one can you? I don't need to make a list or argue why Fantasy should play this tie breaker, his results speak for himself. ^^ You seriously need to get out of yourself and realize that your opinion does not override rules (I know that you technically know this, but the part of your brain that feels has yet to mature).

Point in case: either Fantasy or Hyun will deserve a spot for Blizzcon and SoO doesn't. Simple as that. If he gets some better results next year maybe.
KaiserCommander
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico290 Posts
October 05 2015 17:55 GMT
#65
Excellent article, I've always guessed why BW monsters like Fantasy, Flash, ForGG aren't going in a snowball in SCII as Winnovation did...

Anyways, Fantasy got this guys...
Jinro, Polt, Bomber, ForGG, MajOr, Flash, Maru. Terran Fighting...
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands678 Posts
October 05 2015 18:26 GMT
#66
Hyun. Because pants.
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Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
October 05 2015 19:03 GMT
#67
On October 06 2015 02:49 SamuelGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 23:00 feanaro wrote:
On October 05 2015 15:56 SamuelGreen wrote:
On October 05 2015 13:11 feanaro wrote:
On October 05 2015 08:45 kaykoose wrote:
On October 05 2015 07:21 yip.man wrote:
no one of them thesrve to be in blizzcon
blizzcon will miss soO


I hate posts like these. soO didn't get the points required so he doesn't deserve anything.


In case you missed it, soO actually won a premier tournament this year. In Korea. Care to name a premier tournament FanTaSy has won this year? Or a major one? Or even a minor one?


Can you make a small list of The other things soo did? Oh you cant? Why is that? ;-)


I can, actually. For starters he has a ridiculous 75% winrate in proleague. He actually got a spot at IEM the hard way, by qualifying (as opposed to FanTaSy who got knocked out i the ro32 of the Korean qualifier and so had to get invited). Incidentally, soO also beat FanTaSy in the semifinals of that tournament. And then I guess I could mention that soO won the ridiculously stacked Leifeng monthly cup #3 where almost every Kespa player was in attendance. Now care to make a list for FanTaSy?


You just can't get over the fact that the players that YOU feel deserve a spot, didn't get one can you? I don't need to make a list or argue why Fantasy should play this tie breaker, his results speak for himself. ^^ You seriously need to get out of yourself and realize that your opinion does not override rules (I know that you technically know this, but the part of your brain that feels has yet to mature).

Point in case: either Fantasy or Hyun will deserve a spot for Blizzcon and SoO doesn't. Simple as that. If he gets some better results next year maybe.

Don't be a condescending prick. You can get your point across in a nicer way. And btw, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 05 2015 19:05 GMT
#68
On October 06 2015 02:48 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 07:58 Circumstance wrote:
There's enough time for a Liquibet, right?

I have no idea how many points to award a tie-breaker match.

I think 3 would be good since it's like a knockout round in a tournament
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
October 05 2015 19:19 GMT
#69
On October 06 2015 04:05 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 02:48 Seeker wrote:
On October 05 2015 07:58 Circumstance wrote:
There's enough time for a Liquibet, right?

I have no idea how many points to award a tie-breaker match.

I think 3 would be good since it's like a knockout round in a tournament

Less than 24 hours left. I'm just going to let it pass this time.
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Liquid`Zephyr
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States996 Posts
October 05 2015 22:26 GMT
#70
one time fantasy. gogogogo

fighting!~
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
October 05 2015 22:38 GMT
#71
Im getting up early and hoping its over in 1.5 hours.

YAAAAAS
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 05 2015 22:54 GMT
#72
I'm hoping fantasy wins. He's usually entertaining with his uncanny ability to induce his opponent to play sloppy, scrappy games.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
October 05 2015 23:21 GMT
#73
FanTaSy is going to do it.
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
October 06 2015 00:13 GMT
#74
Best of 5 for 5k I think Hyun will take this.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
October 06 2015 01:06 GMT
#75
I was never a Hyun fan really but the fight he's been putting lately to get to Blizzcon made me wish he earns the spot. Especially his last DH run! He also performed decently in Korea this year when everyone including myself were writing him off.

Go Hyun!
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
October 06 2015 02:00 GMT
#76
TvZ tie breaker, yes please!

It took me a long time to get used to Hyun, and get over the roach king style, but I think even though I cheer for him now that Fantasy in the finals would be more interesting. Here's to good games!
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 03:51:41
October 06 2015 03:48 GMT
#77
On October 05 2015 16:36 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Voting for Hyun here.
Fantasy does not stand any chance against herO. Hyun on the other hand might crush him with his aggression.


I think it's opposite. Fantasy has a higher peak play than HyuN. Problem is, when Fantasy is not on it's a horrible derpfest.
Valefort
Profile Joined December 2010
France228 Posts
October 06 2015 08:10 GMT
#78
Glorious write up, let it be dramatic !
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
October 06 2015 08:27 GMT
#79
Congrats Hyun, You`re blessed by TL.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 06 2015 12:06 GMT
#80
On October 06 2015 17:27 Thouhastmail wrote:
Congrats Hyun, You`re blessed by TL.


DAE Naniwa > Innovation?
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 06 2015 12:49 GMT
#81
On October 06 2015 21:06 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 17:27 Thouhastmail wrote:
Congrats Hyun, You`re blessed by TL.


DAE Naniwa > Innovation?


It's been bothering me for a while but... What does "DAE" means ?
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SeriousLus
Profile Joined July 2012
169 Posts
October 06 2015 13:14 GMT
#82
disgusting series, predictable and ********* ********* and ofc terran won.. mines and hellbats, mhm
really sad for Hyun
we did not need another fing terran at B lizzcon, thats for fucking sure

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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
October 06 2015 13:48 GMT
#83
On October 06 2015 22:14 SeriousLus wrote:
disgusting series, predictable and ********* ********* and ofc terran won.. mines and hellbats, mhm
really sad for Hyun
we did not need another fing terran at B lizzcon, thats for fucking sure

There were an equal number of zerg and terran at blizzcon before the conclusion of this match, so I'm not sure where your whine is coming from.
snzStorm
Profile Joined August 2015
Russian Federation20 Posts
October 06 2015 14:05 GMT
#84
HyuN underperformed as usual in 2015,
now I understand why he got ~3k points at all.
Detri
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom683 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 15:44:16
October 06 2015 15:43 GMT
#85
fuck I missed it QQ anyone know where the VOD's are at?
nevermind rebroadcast! B-D
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
October 07 2015 16:59 GMT
#86
On October 06 2015 23:05 snzStorm wrote:
HyuN underperformed as usual in 2015,
now I understand why he got ~3k points at all.

On top of that he was in like a million events.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
October 08 2015 12:58 GMT
#87
On October 07 2015 00:43 Detri wrote:
fuck I missed it QQ anyone know where the VOD's are at?
nevermind rebroadcast! B-D


http://afreeca.tv/36840697/v/12606
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GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
October 09 2015 14:39 GMT
#88
Hyun T_T
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