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Light_VIP
Profile Joined April 2014
Australia108 Posts
September 30 2015 00:31 GMT
#41
Finally I have someone to cheer for in WCS
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
September 30 2015 00:39 GMT
#42
Damn, big plays from Psistorm. I remember when they were like a 1-2 player org, cool to see them with a big roster now.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
September 30 2015 01:33 GMT
#43
On September 30 2015 05:54 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 05:53 DocSchlakk wrote:
On September 30 2015 05:46 Circumstance wrote:
On September 30 2015 05:41 DocSchlakk wrote:
sorry for the question...but..is this REALLY? a huge thing?....a korean "getting an US spot for WCS" ?

i mean,...are there so many -potential- NA players who could actually/really close the bag in WCS?

Success begets success. Hydra couldn't beat Rogue in aan offline tournament while he was on CJ, but he did after seeing success on Root. Polt won more than twice as many Premier tournaments against top-tier competition after moving to the US. Europeans succeed more than North Americans because there are so many more EU events and online events on the EU server.


not arguing about "how many events there are in EU (because, there are more than in NA, no question) i just dont get this (hostile?) stand on..."koreans tuk er jeerbs" thing, which i read here (not THIS thread in particular) since that announcement.

so you are saying, that TRUE could just...benefit, being on a NA team?...(yeah, better to cook with all the spices than just the ones you know,..i like to say xD )

people just like to blame koreans for the fact that foreigner starcraft isn't profitable


Hasn't the highest viewership always come from foreigners vs Koreans?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10751 Posts
September 30 2015 01:52 GMT
#44
On September 30 2015 05:28 TLgowno wrote:
Region Lock Cracked. Again.

Basically this is how I feel haha... T_T
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zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
September 30 2015 02:33 GMT
#45
On September 30 2015 10:52 GGzerG wrote:
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On September 30 2015 05:28 TLgowno wrote:
Region Lock Cracked. Again.

Basically this is how I feel haha... T_T



I dont understand why people get upset over this? This is a normal thing... You see this in actual sports where a player gets dual citizenship to play for another country. This happens in Futbol, this happens in the olympics.... its all up to where the player feels its right for them. I don't think they should be blamed. You know, you might see it as "Hey that korean is coming over to take American players out and win their money" But its a god damn sacrifice to come to a country you don't know, with people who don't speak your language. To leave everyone you know!!! I've had to move to countries where they didnt speak my native tongue but thankfully i was lucky to have someone with me for the time I had to move. If not i dont know what I would of done.
Sure you can say they have their team but unless this is like Root where there is a legit house and all your team lives together and keeps each other company it can get pretty lonely.
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
September 30 2015 03:55 GMT
#46
desperate times demands desperate measures
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
September 30 2015 04:54 GMT
#47
Shocking!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
September 30 2015 14:04 GMT
#48
I hope more follow TRUE's lead. The sooner they unlock the regions again the better
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
September 30 2015 14:32 GMT
#49
Take that in your face region lock !

Need a little more though.
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
September 30 2015 16:54 GMT
#50
On September 30 2015 23:04 showstealer1829 wrote:
I hope more follow TRUE's lead. The sooner they unlock the regions again the better


The sooner the unlock the regions, the less you will see TRUE, so what this shows is that the region lock really works, if you want more high level people to compete full time in NA. Getting a visa is not an issue as several examples have shown this year, if you and your team are serious about your business.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany535 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-30 23:59:16
September 30 2015 17:57 GMT
#51
On September 30 2015 23:04 showstealer1829 wrote:
I hope more follow TRUE's lead. The sooner they unlock the regions again the better


WCS S3 this year was, at least for me, by far the most enjoyable and entertaining one... because it was mostly Foreigners competing against each other, everyone with their unique story and flair. This is supposed to be a tournament designed to give Foreigners a grand stage to perform on, I don't want to see it being high-jacked by Koreans who are not competent enough to compete in their own region. We already have Dreamhack and IEM and MSI and Asus ROG and GFinity to give the Koreans who seek international audiences their stages to perform on, gain WCS points and earn cash. WCS is unique, can we please keep it that way?
Look, I understand that, with Koreans mixed it, you get more high quality games... but a non-region-locked WCS is a bastardized version of it. The best of the best (and most interesting ones, imho) still stay in their home region and don't compete in WCS. So you end up with neither the most interesting story lines, nor the highest quality of games.
There were 15 international tournaments this year that, for the most part, attracted very good Koreans. All I am asking for is 3 tournaments a year where it is not the same fucking names from the Ro8 on. You have your 15 tournaments, let us have 3... there is no need to force your views on what is enjoyable down everyone's throat and make all tournaments the same according to what you enjoy the most.
I don't want to see Polt vs. Hydra or Hydra vs. ForGG finals every damn WCS season and I sure don't want to see another one mixed in with those names.

I am sorry for dragging this thread further offtopic and I am glad that TRUE has found a new team, he is a great player... I just cannot feel happy about the announcement that he is going to compete in WCS...
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10751 Posts
September 30 2015 19:26 GMT
#52
On October 01 2015 02:57 Nezgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 23:04 showstealer1829 wrote:
I hope more follow TRUE's lead. The sooner they unlock the regions again the better


WCS S3 this year was, at least for me, by far the most enjoyable and entertaining one... because it was mostly Foreigners competing against each other, everyone with their unique story and flair. This is supposed to be a tournament designed to give Foreigners a grand stage to perform on, I don't want to see it being high-jacked by Koreans who are not competent enough to compete in their own region. We already have Dreamhack and IEM and MSI and Asus ROG and GFinity to give the Koreans who seek international audiences their stages to perform on, gain WCS points and earn cash. WCS is unique, can we please keep it that way?
Look, I understand that, with Koreans mixed it, you get more high quality games... but a non-region-locked WCS is a bastardized version of it. The best of the best (and most interesting ones, imho) still stay in their home region and don't compete in WCS. So you end up with neither the most interesting story lines, now the highest quality of games.
There were 15 international tournaments this year that, for the most part, attracted very good Koreans. All I am asking for is 3 tournaments a year where it is not the same fucking names from the Ro8 on. You have your 15 tournaments, let us have 3... there is no need to force your views on what is enjoyable down everyone's throat and make all tournaments the same according to what you enjoy the most.
I don't want to see Polt vs. Hydra or Hydra vs. ForGG finals every damn WCS season and I sure don't want to see another one mixed in with those names.

I am sorry for dragging this thread further offtopic and I am glad that TRUE has found a new team, he is a great player... I just cannot feel happy about the announcement that he is going to compete in WCS...

Completely agree here and I think you couldn't of said it better, thanks.
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Hughgrant
Profile Joined June 2015
32 Posts
September 30 2015 22:58 GMT
#53
What kind of contract do these player get from this kind of "small team" ? Decent salary ? Travel expenses ? anyone has any idea ?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 30 2015 23:13 GMT
#54
All this proves is that Yugioh was the greatest and bravest man to have ever lived.
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ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
October 01 2015 01:05 GMT
#55
On October 01 2015 07:58 Hughgrant wrote:
What kind of contract do these player get from this kind of "small team" ? Decent salary ? Travel expenses ? anyone has any idea ?


Absolutely, but according to GGZerg I have no idea what I'm talking about so best listen to him instead XD
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 09:12:07
October 01 2015 09:11 GMT
#56
On October 01 2015 10:05 ClanWars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 07:58 Hughgrant wrote:
What kind of contract do these player get from this kind of "small team" ? Decent salary ? Travel expenses ? anyone has any idea ?


Absolutely, but according to GGZerg I have no idea what I'm talking about so best listen to him instead XD


Of course you have no idea ! Who are you ? A team owner ? A caster ? A figure in SC2 ? Oh wait...

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ZombieFrog
Profile Joined August 2014
United States87 Posts
October 01 2015 10:04 GMT
#57
Happy for true, i know his English is pretty good now, and he always wanted to travel and go to tournaments, it's why he joined dead pixels in the first place and now psistorm gaming instead of Kespa teams.

That aside, I still don't get the rage against players going to other regions. People certainly don't care in other sports. In basketball for example, there are plenty of European players in the NBA, and there are a limited number of players that can make it in the NBA, but no one screams that they are taking spots from Americans because they make it by being better then the competition, which is legitimate in any competition.

It baffles my mind to this day that when basically asked, Do you want to see games between better players or games between players who are worse at the game but happen to be born in a similar region of the world or share a skin color with you?, that there are people who would rather see the later. Someone by coincidence being born in the same country as me does not make them anymore interesting to watch. I'm watching for the games played.
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SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 10:49:03
October 01 2015 10:43 GMT
#58
Hate it, don't want more Koreans grabbing easy money in foreign WCS. I don't want to move into this direction again.
Cogito, ergo Toss
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 10:48:44
October 01 2015 10:48 GMT
#59
edit double post
Cogito, ergo Toss
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 11:08:09
October 01 2015 11:07 GMT
#60
i hope one day we have a scene where people don't have negativity toward players because of their race or country of origin :/ all koreans who come to foreign WCS deserve to win if they're better! GL true, hope you destroy any foreign player who isn't as skilled as you
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