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ESL announces details of the anti-doping policy

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bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
August 13 2015 13:37 GMT
#1
"Recently ESL has announced that it will work with anti-doping organizations NADA and WADA to take an important step towards further professionalization of esports, and we will introduce tests for substances banned by those organizations at our events. The initial announcement outlined reasons why we want to tackle doping in esports right now, and how are we going to do that. ..."

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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
August 13 2015 13:41 GMT
#2
Maybe include a little more in the OP?
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
August 13 2015 13:44 GMT
#3
How do they test for pot usage THE DAY OF the tournament? How can they tell if someone is high right this instant?

Do they make them watch kung fu hustle and judge by their reactions?
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
A_Scarecrow
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia721 Posts
August 13 2015 13:48 GMT
#4
On August 13 2015 22:44 DinoMight wrote:
How do they test for pot usage THE DAY OF the tournament? How can they tell if someone is high right this instant?

Do they make them watch kung fu hustle and judge by their reactions?

maybe the same way they find out if some1 been drinking, ask if they want a kebab.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
August 13 2015 13:50 GMT
#5
On August 13 2015 22:48 A_Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 22:44 DinoMight wrote:
How do they test for pot usage THE DAY OF the tournament? How can they tell if someone is high right this instant?

Do they make them watch kung fu hustle and judge by their reactions?

maybe the same way they find out if some1 been drinking, ask if they want a kebab.


Man if that's the test I could never compete in ESL...
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
August 13 2015 13:50 GMT
#6
Good, cannabis is so imba.
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5509 Posts
August 13 2015 13:54 GMT
#7
On August 13 2015 22:44 DinoMight wrote:
How do they test for pot usage THE DAY OF the tournament? How can they tell if someone is high right this instant?

Do they make them watch kung fu hustle and judge by their reactions?

It's a saliva test, which can only detect weed for up to 24 hours at best apparently.
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calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
August 13 2015 14:08 GMT
#8
This is really stupid. Esports already struggles to make profits and stay alive in most cases. Drug testing like this can't be cheap so it seems like it's stretching the budget even thinner. Impractical and unnecessary IMO.
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden888 Posts
August 13 2015 14:14 GMT
#9
this is so retarded to compare proffessional chess they dont do doping tests there so why here.. and the benefit is suspect at best
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 13 2015 14:26 GMT
#10
Isn't this just for CS:GO?
Grollicus
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany287 Posts
August 13 2015 14:47 GMT
#11
This seems very half-assed.

They will use salvia tests which are quick but inaccurate, so lets see when the first false positives come.
They ban a huge list of substances but dont check for them (check for steroids by salvia test?)
They allow excemptions via letter from a physician.

So, huge media hype but nothing of substance?
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
August 13 2015 15:25 GMT
#12
On August 13 2015 23:08 calgar wrote:
This is really stupid. Esports already struggles to make profits and stay alive in most cases. Drug testing like this can't be cheap so it seems like it's stretching the budget even thinner. Impractical and unnecessary IMO.


I heard some CS GO guys were abusing adderall, which is not good. But otherwise I agree, e-sports still taking off. I'd have waited a bit before introducing something like this.
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FLeK0
Profile Joined April 2010
86 Posts
August 13 2015 15:37 GMT
#13
On August 13 2015 23:47 Grollicus wrote:
This seems very half-assed.

They will use salvia tests which are quick but inaccurate, so lets see when the first false positives come.
They ban a huge list of substances but dont check for them (check for steroids by salvia test?)
They allow excemptions via letter from a physician.

So, huge media hype but nothing of substance?

bunch of euros doing speed will get cought though
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10675 Posts
August 13 2015 16:56 GMT
#14
This is more so for FPS games than RTS, being on drugs in RTS isn't going to help very much lol
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Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
August 13 2015 17:36 GMT
#15
On August 14 2015 01:56 GGzerG wrote:
This is more so for FPS games than RTS, being on drugs in RTS isn't going to help very much lol


I thought for sure having less mental clarity was a benefit for RTS...
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
August 13 2015 17:44 GMT
#16
Not sure about testing for weed or anything like that, adderall i can understand, but weed? Goodluck beating a Korean while being high af lol. "omggg, i am being all-ined by parting, laser beams soooo prettty, oh shit i forgot to build a roach warren, fuck i want some mcnuggets" <- would be going through your head as parting soul train you.

I can understand performance enhancing drugs, like adderall or whatever people take to boost their focus, but things like weed or steroids (being buff and handsome like Stork isnt gonna help you beat anyone) im more skeptical about. There should be a more refined list of bannable drugs updated specifically for eSports, rather than just using the all encompassing sport ban list for video games. Still, I guess it must be done or else people wont take esport seriously.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-13 18:01:06
August 13 2015 18:00 GMT
#17
On August 14 2015 01:56 GGzerG wrote:
This is more so for FPS games than RTS, being on drugs in RTS isn't going to help very much lol


It might help with something as simple as CS:GO but I highly doubt it would be significant if you were playing Quake or UT or PK. Then again none of those is in a pro circuit anymore so it doesn't matter. Just wanted to point that out though.

And yeah, +1 to all the posters saying it's half-assed and ineffectual.

mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
August 13 2015 18:10 GMT
#18
On August 14 2015 02:36 Mistakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2015 01:56 GGzerG wrote:
This is more so for FPS games than RTS, being on drugs in RTS isn't going to help very much lol


I thought for sure having less mental clarity was a benefit for RTS...

What about more concentration, confidence, alertness or reaction time for instance? There are all kinds of drugs...
don't wall off against random
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
August 13 2015 18:12 GMT
#19
So... all those energy drinks will stop being sponsors now?
This is kinda stupid.
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Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
August 13 2015 18:14 GMT
#20
I don't think its's half assed, Saliva tests for adderall are apparently as accurate as the urine tests are, Source . I don't really see a need to ban marijuana but I'm in agreement with banning adderall and other drugs of the sort. It's full of amphetamines, if you aren't prescribed for it you shouldn't be taking it. From what I hear it isn't that difficult to get a prescription for it, and the least these kids can do is speak with a doctor about it before taking it. Learn about the side effects, etc.
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