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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-27 19:25:07
July 27 2015 00:30 GMT
#1
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The Fan Federation For Fair Fiewing, or FFFFF for short, is an initiative by online fiewers to reduce the number of no-shows, bad shows and mid-tournament audio drop outs. Numerous online events have suffered from stream quality missing important pixels, delaying or pre-maturely ending broadcasts, disappointing players and organizers, and even playing a large part in the end of numerous events like NASL. Thus, the following fiewers are banding together to combat the problem through a new system we're calling Fair Fiewing Falidation.

Fiewers


graNite
BigFan
swag_bro
Pirfiktshon
JimmyJRaynor



Fair Fiewing Falidation

Fair Fiewing Falidation is a system designed to encourage online events and streams to deliver a good, high quality show in a timely manner.

For those who want the tl;dr:
  • Streams receive Fair Fiewing Falidation when they have no no-shows, bad shows and mid-tournament audio drop outs
  • 1080p and 60fps is a must-have at all times
  • Unreasonably long delays, stream or audio drop outs will immediately remove the Fair Fiewing Falidation status



The Why

This is effectively a whitelist system for streams and tournaments who deliver a great show in a timely manner constantly. While it is with great hesitation and caution we implement such a system, we believe that the terms presented are fair and reasonable. If a host commits to stream a tournament, showmatch or event, they are expected to show up and stream with 1080p 60fps.

When a player or tournaments is not streaming, there is a cost for the fiewer. Less broadcast time because of no show means less visibility for sponsors, less time opportunities for subscriptions to be purchased, less chance for fiewership growth and brand awareness, less time to rant in twich chat.


Ensuring Quality and Fairness

You are the fiewer, you have the power in your hands. Stop watching badly organized tournaments or lame streamers. Use the Fair Fiewing Falidation to ensure quality in StarCraft streams.



Q/A



How do I Join the Fan Federation For Fair Fiewing?
      Post " I am a fiewer! " in this topic.

What if there are medical or family emergencies / acts of nature that prevents hosts from streaming?
      With our zero tolerance policy, we won't accept any reason for a stream/tournament to not go on in a timely manner.


"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
July 27 2015 00:32 GMT
#2
1st was serious
2nd was funny
3rd is annoying

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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 27 2015 00:34 GMT
#3
Oh my xD
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EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 27 2015 00:36 GMT
#4
time to boycot gsl. whos with me????
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-27 01:06:41
July 27 2015 01:05 GMT
#5
so where's the one for the casters? and the korean versions?

edit: you should make it "foreigner fans federation..."
Stolas
Profile Joined April 2015
United States4 Posts
July 27 2015 01:23 GMT
#6
On July 27 2015 09:32 Clonester wrote:
1st was serious
2nd was funny
3rd is annoying




User was warned for this post
BiG
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany153 Posts
July 27 2015 01:34 GMT
#7
1st was serious
2nd was trying to be funny
3rd actually has a point
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
July 27 2015 01:48 GMT
#8
i guess i already am a fiewer, since GSL has made me stop watching them entirely.. same as any other tournament with bad production.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10861 Posts
July 27 2015 01:49 GMT
#9
On July 27 2015 09:32 Clonester wrote:
1st was serious
2nd was funny
3rd is annoying, uncreative, and screaming for attention, please me me me me me.


fixed.
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Kyrao
Profile Joined July 2010
United States161 Posts
July 27 2015 01:51 GMT
#10
I like it.
Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
July 27 2015 01:53 GMT
#11
Someone should make one of these about people making these kind of threads
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JabuSeika
Profile Joined February 2014
United States607 Posts
July 27 2015 01:58 GMT
#12
I know this is a joke, but it's also a real problem.

I hate introducing people to SC2, I show them the highest quality of SC2 in the GSL, and we have to watch in shit ass quality.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
July 27 2015 02:13 GMT
#13
First picture applies to this thread.
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
July 27 2015 02:34 GMT
#14
I guess it had to be done
NasusAndDraven
Profile Joined April 2015
359 Posts
July 27 2015 05:22 GMT
#15
Unreasonably long delays? You can instantly blacklist all of sc2 tournaments right now. Gg no re.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
July 27 2015 05:36 GMT
#16
Asking them to commit to 1080p60fps is a tall order because it is not feasible within Twitch's 3500k bitrate limit.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
July 27 2015 05:49 GMT
#17
Fire and pitchforks guys
Wait, this is not about FFF inquisition from Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu?
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
July 27 2015 07:09 GMT
#18
I actually like this more than Kane's garbage post. Much funnier
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 27 2015 07:15 GMT
#19
I am a fiewer!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
July 27 2015 07:18 GMT
#20
On July 27 2015 10:34 BiG wrote:
1st was serious
2nd was trying to be funny
3rd actually has a point


i missed 1 und 2 (assuming this is 3). hints or links anyone?
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37117 Posts
July 27 2015 07:56 GMT
#21
On July 27 2015 16:18 Wormi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 10:34 BiG wrote:
1st was serious
2nd was trying to be funny
3rd actually has a point


i missed 1 und 2 (assuming this is 3). hints or links anyone?

1st: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/491037-the-organizers-alliance-against-absent-athletes
2nd: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/491064-fuctup-foreigners-union
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
July 27 2015 12:25 GMT
#22
On July 27 2015 16:56 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 16:18 Wormi wrote:
On July 27 2015 10:34 BiG wrote:
1st was serious
2nd was trying to be funny
3rd actually has a point


i missed 1 und 2 (assuming this is 3). hints or links anyone?

1st: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/491037-the-organizers-alliance-against-absent-athletes
2nd: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/491064-fuctup-foreigners-union


thank you
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
July 27 2015 12:30 GMT
#23
On July 27 2015 14:36 digmouse wrote:
Asking them to commit to 1080p60fps is a tall order because it is not feasible within Twitch's 3500k bitrate limit.

Very true - speaking of twitch, the name could have been Kids Association of Production Property Assessment
swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
July 27 2015 12:33 GMT
#24
I am a fiewer!
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
July 27 2015 12:42 GMT
#25
I am a fiewer and since the first season I don't think i have renewed my ticket to GSL for many of these reasons.... and the fact that they make you pay for it on top of it...

IMO there is Pro League which I'm an AVID fan of especially with Moonglade and Valdez at the helm on the english side.
SSL is also good
`dunedain
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
657 Posts
July 27 2015 12:46 GMT
#26
Phew~!
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
July 27 2015 12:47 GMT
#27
On July 27 2015 21:42 Pirfiktshon wrote:
I am a fiewer and since the first season I don't think i have renewed my ticket to GSL for many of these reasons.... and the fact that they make you pay for it on top of it...

IMO there is Pro League which I'm an AVID fan of especially with Moonglade and Valdez at the helm on the english side.
SSL is also good


dont forget HSC
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
phipsL
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany189 Posts
July 27 2015 12:52 GMT
#28
But at least we have all parties now: The tournaments, the players and the Fiewers.
I'm a f*cking walking paradox.
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
July 27 2015 12:54 GMT
#29
Yea foreign scene,tournaments and players alike,have become a joke.
Freelancer veteran
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
July 27 2015 13:21 GMT
#30
On July 27 2015 21:54 Liman wrote:
Yea foreign scene,tournaments and players alike,have become a joke.

really? the korean scene is the one with the ongoing betting scandals
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46474 Posts
July 27 2015 13:50 GMT
#31
Why are all of these threads suddenly popping up?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
July 27 2015 13:53 GMT
#32
On July 27 2015 14:36 digmouse wrote:
Asking them to commit to 1080p60fps is a tall order because it is not feasible within Twitch's 3500k bitrate limit.

Twitch's shitty flash player is much worse than the bitrate restrictions, 1080p60 uses like 8 GHz worth of CPU power. Utterly ridiculous.
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
July 27 2015 13:56 GMT
#33
On July 27 2015 22:53 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 14:36 digmouse wrote:
Asking them to commit to 1080p60fps is a tall order because it is not feasible within Twitch's 3500k bitrate limit.

Twitch's shitty flash player is much worse than the bitrate restrictions, 1080p60 uses like 8 GHz worth of CPU power. Utterly ridiculous.

Werent they going to change it to a new HTML5 player?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
July 27 2015 14:00 GMT
#34
This is hilarious
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
July 27 2015 14:13 GMT
#35
On July 27 2015 22:53 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 14:36 digmouse wrote:
Asking them to commit to 1080p60fps is a tall order because it is not feasible within Twitch's 3500k bitrate limit.

Twitch's shitty flash player is much worse than the bitrate restrictions, 1080p60 uses like 8 GHz worth of CPU power. Utterly ridiculous.

Yeah it was super bad, hope the new HTML5 one gets universal deployment soon.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
July 27 2015 15:56 GMT
#36
Hahahaha rip GSL.
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Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
July 27 2015 16:04 GMT
#37
WHat?? There is still pple watching SC2 ?
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
July 27 2015 18:05 GMT
#38
On July 28 2015 01:04 Cazimirbzh wrote:
WHat?? There is still pple watching SC2 ?

Much to your surprise there are.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-27 18:11:18
July 27 2015 18:10 GMT
#39
On July 27 2015 10:53 Dunmer wrote:
Someone should make one of these about people making these kind of threads

As soon as I opened this thread I started trying to string an acronym together involving beating a dead horse

My last effort got cut short.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17879 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-27 18:34:56
July 27 2015 18:28 GMT
#40
On July 27 2015 22:53 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 14:36 digmouse wrote:
Asking them to commit to 1080p60fps is a tall order because it is not feasible within Twitch's 3500k bitrate limit.

Twitch's shitty flash player is much worse than the bitrate restrictions, 1080p60 uses like 8 GHz worth of CPU power. Utterly ridiculous.


FFFFF's membership plans a mass boycott in the use of the products and services of

Google, Microsoft, Blizzard, Twitch, Ebay, Toyota, JPMorgan Chase , Exxon Mobil , General Electric , Apple , Walmart, Samsung , Verizon , Johnson & Johnson , Procter & Gamble , and IBM.

as well a boycott of any product or service or industry adhering to IEEE standards is underway.

personally, i think the IEEE standardization process is fundamentally flawed and until its fixed products like SC2:LotV have no chance of gaining any kind of popularity and will always need constant incremental balance patches.

i am a fiewer!
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
varsovie
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada326 Posts
July 28 2015 00:37 GMT
#41
On July 27 2015 09:32 Clonester wrote:
1st is annoying
2nd was serious
3rd was funny



Fixed
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17879 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 16:09:23
August 08 2015 15:57 GMT
#42
as an official member of FFFFF i must say the ESL/IEM/GamesCom thingie is going well so far.

we need to reward good live event production as well as punish bad production.

i've got $45 in Canadian Tire money laying around. Maybe we could grant a perfectly executed production with $2 in Canadian Tire money?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
August 08 2015 17:37 GMT
#43
Am I the only one who looked up "fiewing" on google translator?
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
August 08 2015 17:54 GMT
#44
On August 09 2015 02:37 KingAlphard wrote:
Am I the only one who looked up "fiewing" on google translator?


lol. what did it say?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17879 Posts
August 08 2015 17:59 GMT
#45
if my proposed rewards program is introduced

and if the guys at ESL/IEM do a great job today.. they can take the $2 in Canadian Tire Money they get from FFFFF and use it when they are buying some Transmission Oil or a Gas BBQ at their local Canadian Tire.

i say the members of FFFFF take a vote on my new innovative rewards program
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
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