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Lycan to cast WCS Challenger

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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 20 2015 19:28 GMT
#1


Interesting choice. Since he is neither a professional caster with a lot of experience nor a player, jumping straight into WCS is a big move.

What are your thoughts?
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Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-20 19:40:36
July 20 2015 19:40 GMT
#2
Lycan is a good guy and produces good content, but I remain skeptical when it comes to his casting since I have not experienced it.
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pretender58
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany713 Posts
July 20 2015 19:45 GMT
#3
Interesting to see. The lack of casting experience, though, shouldn't matter that much when he is joined by nathanias.
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
July 20 2015 19:46 GMT
#4
On the up and up!
Goes to show, hard work pays off.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 20 2015 19:49 GMT
#5
Really happy for him with all the work he puts in. He's a really entertaining caster too
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 20 2015 19:50 GMT
#6
good on him

glad to see they gave the kid a shot
Finnz
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom260 Posts
July 20 2015 19:51 GMT
#7
Its great to see Lycan given these big opportunities but i think i speak for everyone here when i say that with his lack of casting experience i feel very skeptical if it will work or not. Hope it does, best of luck Lycan .
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10675 Posts
July 20 2015 19:52 GMT
#8
Best of luck to him, haven't seen his casting, will be interesting to see.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 20 2015 19:58 GMT
#9
I have never heard him cast before but it seems like a great opportunity for him
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 20 2015 20:00 GMT
#10
Lycan, your first choice for professionalism

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Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
July 20 2015 20:01 GMT
#11
I don't have anything against Lycan, but he doesn't strike me as a charismatic guy that makes me enjoy listening to him. Game knowledgewise it's extremely limited as well, so to be honest I question if this was the right decision.
IceBerrY
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany220 Posts
July 20 2015 20:02 GMT
#12
On July 21 2015 04:40 JacobShock wrote:
Lycan is a good guy and produces good content, but I remain skeptical when it comes to his casting since I have not experienced it.


Yap, i am afraid i agree. I mean, we will see, i won´t judge before its actually happening.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 20 2015 20:11 GMT
#13
I think Lycan is a hard worker and will prepare well for this. I will also wait until it happened to give real feedback, but I think he deserves the chance. If he just doesn't try to come over as a super analyst and does more play by play while asking the right questions to let Nathanias do some analysis, I think he could do very well.

Anyway good luck Lycan, it will be interesting to see .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
July 20 2015 20:33 GMT
#14
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 20 2015 20:42 GMT
#15
He'll manage fine. It's a good solution since Rotti's (presumably) still en route when Challenger's happening. Nate doesn't have to solo cast and a community workhorse gets some well-deserved exposure.
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mau5mat
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Northern Ireland461 Posts
July 20 2015 20:46 GMT
#16
I'm not really seeing what he can bring to a casting table, I hope I will be proved wrong, but lacking in knowledge and in-game ability isn't a great start.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 20 2015 20:52 GMT
#17
Damn so many negative people in here >< Give him his chance, then judge
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-20 20:59:08
July 20 2015 20:55 GMT
#18
On July 21 2015 05:52 OtherWorld wrote:
Damn so many negative people in here >< Give him his chance, then judge


This thread is mostly very positive, the "worst" comments are still neutral and very civil. I don't see how you arrived at your conclusion.

Edit: Okay I jinxed it, thanks huktillidie .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
huktillidie
Profile Joined October 2014
Norway9 Posts
July 20 2015 20:56 GMT
#19
terrible. there must be a player in na that would love to cast some wcs games.
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UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
July 20 2015 21:11 GMT
#20
I'll jump in on the cautiously neutral train. Seems weird he will cast WCS Challenger, but has the BaseTradeTV crew cast his own league. I'm a little confused.
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LuckyGnomTV
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Russian Federation367 Posts
July 20 2015 21:16 GMT
#21
Hes a nice guy, but this shows one rule: contacts rules everything. If youre in friends with good ppl you will jump 2 steps ahead right away
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 20 2015 21:18 GMT
#22
On July 21 2015 05:52 OtherWorld wrote:
Damn so many negative people in here >< Give him his chance, then judge

Try the reddit thread to see what negative comments are.
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Taronar
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands177 Posts
July 20 2015 21:20 GMT
#23
I love TLG and I think Lycan is a great guy! But if we can expect the same professionalism in his casting as in TLG I am very afraid for the quality of the cast. Also, I don't think he has the game knowledge to fully take this role. I would take him as a host any time, but as a caster..... No please don't.
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Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
July 20 2015 21:24 GMT
#24
Nice, ofc we'll have to see the performance.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 20 2015 21:26 GMT
#25
On July 21 2015 06:18 Boucot wrote:
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On July 21 2015 05:52 OtherWorld wrote:
Damn so many negative people in here >< Give him his chance, then judge

Try the reddit thread to see what negative comments are.

Reddit's layout and terrible site design are making sure I won't get shocked by seeing what they write there, thanks d:
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
July 20 2015 21:27 GMT
#26
On July 21 2015 06:18 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 05:52 OtherWorld wrote:
Damn so many negative people in here >< Give him his chance, then judge

Try the reddit thread to see what negative comments are.

When we start to compare TL threads to reddit, then we have a problem...
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KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
July 20 2015 21:28 GMT
#27
He seems like a cool guy. Good luck Lycan!
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Ja.Y.
Profile Joined February 2015
United States253 Posts
July 20 2015 21:31 GMT
#28
Someone who is passionate about SC2 and produces pretty good content getting a chance to shine on the semi-big stage of SC2? I'm down.

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shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
July 20 2015 21:37 GMT
#29
Never really even heard about him.
Anyone can give me some game he casted ? MAybe hearing his voice will make me recall.
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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
July 20 2015 21:45 GMT
#30
Best of luck to him.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-20 21:50:09
July 20 2015 21:48 GMT
#31
On July 21 2015 06:37 shid0x wrote:
Never really even heard about him.
Anyone can give me some game he casted ? MAybe hearing his voice will make me recall.


Hm the thing is he doesn't really cast a lot I think. He hosts The Late Game though.



Here is something I found where he casts a game with feardragon and Temp0. The introduction is certainly epic, just not sure if he can sing at WCS .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 20 2015 21:56 GMT
#32
This is the same thing that happened with Nathanias - he did community stuff, then got given a shot at something bigger, and no one regretted that decision. I think it's a good move, although I haven't heard him cast except for once on Basetrade, where he was fine.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 20 2015 22:15 GMT
#33
On July 21 2015 06:27 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 06:18 Boucot wrote:
On July 21 2015 05:52 OtherWorld wrote:
Damn so many negative people in here >< Give him his chance, then judge

Try the reddit thread to see what negative comments are.

When we start to compare TL threads to reddit, then we have a problem...

No, the contrast is so ridiculous, that's funny.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 20 2015 22:31 GMT
#34
Hmm don't really understand this move. What about guys like Incontrol or Gretorp? (and Rotti of course but I assume he can't make it?)
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
July 20 2015 22:45 GMT
#35
On July 21 2015 07:31 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Hmm don't really understand this move. What about guys like Incontrol or Gretorp? (and Rotti of course but I assume he can't make it?)

incontrol and gretorp are both kinda out of the meta in terms of analyzing and calling games, especially gretorp. geoff at least has great charisma and broadcasting presence, and he's still with it enough that he can analyze a game pretty well, but gretorp i really don't think knows the meta at all. he seems like a nice guy, but when i hear him cast i honestly feel like i understand what's going on better than he does
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NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
July 20 2015 22:47 GMT
#36
I've never even heard of him. I'll wait to judge.
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RaymondFish
Profile Joined July 2012
United States42 Posts
July 21 2015 00:03 GMT
#37
Really, really dislike this.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
July 21 2015 00:21 GMT
#38
I don't have anything particularly against the guy, but I would always enjoy a player-caster more. Like, even though I don't consider Homestory Cup a significant tournament, given its general atmosphere and structure (lots of invites), I always enjoy the casting. Not just because Incontrol is a funny troll, either! Having pro-players cast is really nice.

Truthfully, if Lycan can provide commentary that is free of the Tasteless dialogue (pun intended), then I'll be happy. There's nothing worse than having to hear about Tasteless' 10-minute story, all while major events are going on in the game. Better hope there isn't a 11-11 proxy rax build, because you won't hear a thing about it until the game has already been decided...
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
July 21 2015 01:14 GMT
#39
From what I've seen he seems to be a bit too "yes-man". Dunno how else to explain it, but I hope he improves when casting!
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
July 21 2015 01:18 GMT
#40
Sounds like he's just casting for this week? Maybe they just needed someone to fill in for a bit and he was the person who was the best fit for the time window and availability?
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Autodidact
Profile Joined April 2010
United States27 Posts
July 21 2015 02:33 GMT
#41
I'm really looking forward to this, he's an awesome dude who puts out great content and I enjoy his demeanor.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 21 2015 03:24 GMT
#42
On July 21 2015 04:51 Finnz wrote:
Its great to see Lycan given these big opportunities but i think i speak for everyone here when i say that with his lack of casting experience i feel very skeptical if it will work or not. Hope it does, best of luck Lycan .


He needs to get it somewhere. A breath of fresh air perhaps.
loft
Profile Joined July 2009
United States344 Posts
July 21 2015 06:48 GMT
#43
Extremely low-brow humor. Guess WCS is pandering to the lowest common denominator with this move... God I'm mean.
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
July 21 2015 07:12 GMT
#44
Wow.. what becomes news nowadays..
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SlyZBuckler
Profile Joined November 2014
6 Posts
July 21 2015 09:09 GMT
#45
Pls no Nathanias.

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Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
July 21 2015 09:47 GMT
#46
Yeah, he's a decent host and I like that he's been getting people together for a podcast but casting? I'd guess there are better choices even fairly close to the studio (California right?).
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partouf
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Netherlands405 Posts
July 21 2015 13:01 GMT
#47
Regardless of how and why this choice was made, I sincerely request - nay URGE - the production, crew and especially the casters to give Challenger and its Players the stage and attention they deserve.
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NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
July 21 2015 14:33 GMT
#48
Haven't followed the scene in a while, only just really coming back, but it is good to see there are always new faces getting opportunitys
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Lycangrope
Profile Joined October 2013
United States110 Posts
July 21 2015 14:55 GMT
#49
Thank you guys for the kind words and objectivity. I'm really looking forward to the broadcast and putting a lot of work into prepping. I won't let you guys down.
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PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
July 21 2015 15:09 GMT
#50
Great to see that blizzard gives a lot of people the opportunity to cast games. F.e. Pig, Huk, etc and now Lycan.
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Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
July 21 2015 15:44 GMT
#51
On July 21 2015 22:01 partouf wrote:
Regardless of how and why this choice was made, I sincerely request - nay URGE - the production, crew and especially the casters to give Challenger and its Players the stage and attention they deserve.


+10000.
Mier19891
Profile Joined May 2015
United States75 Posts
July 21 2015 16:31 GMT
#52
I have faith! Lycan sparks some real solid discussion on his show, and with Nates analysis to back him I choose to believe they'll be great.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16788 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-21 17:49:47
July 21 2015 17:46 GMT
#53
On July 21 2015 06:20 Taronar wrote:
I love TLG and I think Lycan is a great guy! But if we can expect the same professionalism in his casting as in TLG I am very afraid for the quality of the cast. Also, I don't think he has the game knowledge to fully take this role. I would take him as a host any time, but as a caster..... No please don't.


if the role paid $60 USD/hour they could probably get a really good analytical caster guy for this position and also pay Lycan to host. i'll bet you WCS Challenger League is running on a bare bones budget though.

Good Luck Lycan. Relative to the resources dedicated to the WCS Challenger League i'm sure you'll do a great job.

On July 21 2015 18:09 SlyZBuckler wrote:
Pls no Nathanias.


i personally do not like Nathanias as a caster. However, once i consider the budgets for these things i realize i'm not in a position to be picky. He still offers some degree of insight i would otherwise not get if the volume were turned down.
i'd say Nathanias is far better than nothing which is probably what the WCS Challenger league is paying these guys.
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KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
July 21 2015 22:47 GMT
#54
On July 21 2015 23:55 Lycangrope wrote:
Thank you guys for the kind words and objectivity. I'm really looking forward to the broadcast and putting a lot of work into prepping. I won't let you guys down.


I'm sure it will go well. Good luck!
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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
July 22 2015 02:20 GMT
#55
On July 21 2015 22:01 partouf wrote:
Regardless of how and why this choice was made, I sincerely request - nay URGE - the production, crew and especially the casters to give Challenger and its Players the stage and attention they deserve.

well said. The amount of attention the qualifiers and challenger itself is getting is quite underwhelming
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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
July 22 2015 02:30 GMT
#56
If I remember correct they don't even use the main wcs am/eu channel to cast the qualifiers this year.
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MonkeyBot
Profile Joined June 2013
United States125 Posts
July 22 2015 03:22 GMT
#57
Congrats Lycan! I'm sure it'll be great.
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
July 22 2015 17:31 GMT
#58
On July 22 2015 11:30 digmouse wrote:
If I remember correct they don't even use the main wcs am/eu channel to cast the qualifiers this year.


I don't think qualifiers have ever been done on the official channels. Certainly not in EU.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 22 2015 17:42 GMT
#59
Im down with any caster as long as he doesnt say x player forgot to research siege mode n stuff, who was that btw?
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
July 22 2015 23:15 GMT
#60
On July 23 2015 02:31 messioso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 11:30 digmouse wrote:
If I remember correct they don't even use the main wcs am/eu channel to cast the qualifiers this year.


I don't think qualifiers have ever been done on the official channels. Certainly not in EU.

If I remember correct the WCS EU2 channel did qualifiers last year. Not sure about AM.
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