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moar pls!There is too little Zest in it but I forgive you because you made very good points about god sOs. He knows how to turn his gambles into $$$
Thanks for the good read!
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Silvana
3713 Posts
moar pls!There is too little Zest in it but I forgive you because you made very good points about god sOs. He knows how to turn his gambles into $$$ Thanks for the good read! | ||
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xpldngmn
Austria264 Posts
'nuff said | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43478 Posts
Great article  | ||
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Lexender
Mexico2623 Posts
The article was well written but I don't think there will ever come a time where I think it isn't the worst MU (let alone a good one) but thats just personal opinion | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
 Watching lots of elfi and welmu has definitely increased my appreciation for the MU :D | ||
Waxangel
United States32953 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13378 Posts
On June 15 2015 03:30 Waxangel wrote: the outpouring of love for elfi brings a tear to my eye The one true protoss god | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
EDIT: seriously though well done Olli :D | ||
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egrimm
Poland1198 Posts
I remember watching IEM WC 2014 live, and how the whole crowd was rooting for her0 and felt robbed of great games because of that "stupid, no-skill proxy rushes" whlist I was purely amazed how well did sOs prepared for that final and how he went total bedlam in her0's mind. Also I love sOs so I was really happy seeing him win  PvP is less about robotic execution of builds, it's more about reading your opponent, through his playstyle, his habits and behaviour under pressure, find tendencies and inclination he may have and use that knowledge against him. That's why that matchup is the best in long BOX series, rather than BO1 on ladder | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
On June 14 2015 20:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: PvP has always been the best mirror match up. Most of the people hated IEM Katowice 2014 but I loved it. I was just sitting on my chair frozen and thinking how awesome is that. sOs had balls of steel. And if we cut end of the wol out, PvP has always been my best mu. So maybe that is one of the reason I think PvP is the best mirror. PvP has been so logical to me always. At least in WoL there was clear build/units that won other units. Somebody goes blink --> I go robo. elfi king of the PvP! He peaked 70% winrate in PvP during WoL I'm pretty sure you're confusing PvP with TvT here But yeah PvP is now a better mirror then it was several years ago, at least you don't have 1 unit blobs crash into each other trying to see which is bigger. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On June 14 2015 22:39 OtherWorld wrote: PvP is the second best MU behind ZvZ. That's the truth. True. I love so much the ling baneling battle "if you sneeze you die". | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On June 15 2015 02:15 xpldngmn wrote: White-Ra vs. MC at the GSL World Championships. 'nuff said That Shakuras proxy tho | ||
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
It has also gotten a LOT better in HotS. I don't dread getting a PvP on ladder anymore the way I used to. TvT, PvP > ZvZ imo. Once you get past ling bane micro it's just giant groups of 1-2 unit types A-moving at each other until the bigger one wins. ZvZ is actually better in LotV IMO with the introduction of the Lurker and the new economy forcing you to expand more (which makes Muta more viable as a way to deny them and get ahead). | ||
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Cazimirbzh
334 Posts
I think if you believe that pvp is coinflip, u should go allin every game. Also if u have no gambling in your strategy, u can go allin too :p I'll never count wol era because it wasnt really entertaining. PvP is bit better now that midgame is more stable, still waiting for lategame^^ but if you look at other MU they all have their downside dead zvz (plz banneling micro plz banneling micro^^) or mirror 1-1-1 for terran. And that's what i like about pvp, u have to choose your decisions | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland11755 Posts
On June 16 2015 00:44 DinoMight wrote: Once you get past ling bane micro it's just giant groups of 1-2 unit types A-moving at each other until the bigger one wins. It's really not, but that's okay, you were just baiting anyway =p I also like all the rationalization going on when most people who don't enjoy PvP don't enjoy it because it's composed of a protoss playing another protoss, pretty much in the same way I don't enjoy TvT because I don't like terran design and I hate most terran players. | ||
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w3c.TruE
Czech Republic1055 Posts
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
On June 16 2015 02:57 Nebuchad wrote: It's really not, but that's okay, you were just baiting anyway =p I also like all the rationalization going on when most people who don't enjoy PvP don't enjoy it because it's composed of a protoss playing another protoss, pretty much in the same way I don't enjoy TvT because I don't like terran design and I hate most terran players. ?? Say what? I actually like watching TvT and PvP. To me ZvZ is just not entertaining. Sure there is skill involved. But visually it just looks like two blobs puking on each other until one dies. Unlike TvT/PvP you don't see as many drops/harass/spellcasters/types of units. Once ling bane is over it's blobs. :/ | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
HERETIC! All hail IncA! | ||
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