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On June 02 2015 03:36 Gwavajuice wrote:Nice as always  Would it possible, you think, to add organizations as well, like TakeTV or O'gaming? O'Gaming said yesterday in their wcs cast that, due to the fact they cast a shitton of events, they're #1 in viewers*hours on all sc2 twitch channels (but are ofc much smaller in avg viewers). If that's true they would deserve to be there, somewhere... (maybe a special chart for organization?) edit : spelling, grr
I'm intentionally only including player streams, and not organizations or talk shows or the like. It's just not as useful to rate TakeTV or O'gaming based on their average viewer count, since their viewership depends a whole lot on the event they're casting. And since a good deal of these organizations stream almost 24/7, it's only natural that their viewerhour number is incredibly high. I might do a top 50 list with every single SC2 stream (players, casters, events, organizations, etc.) some time, just for giggles, but it wouldn't really convey all that much useful information I'd say.
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On June 02 2015 19:09 BreAKerTV wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 08:53 Dickbutt wrote:On June 02 2015 08:14 BreAKerTV wrote:
Where is Destiny? Did something bad happen to him? He didn't stream SC2 since LotV beta release. Oh and hi breaker I love you <3 I love you too random Australian fanboy! <3
Your behaviour indicates otherwise 
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does proleague numbers include the french stream ?
I know its a bit delayed but its still is viewers.
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On June 03 2015 08:24 shid0x wrote:
does proleague numbers include the french stream ?
I know its a bit delayed but its still is viewers.
And it's a lot of viewers. Between 2500 and 3500 each time.
Not counting O gaming TV is understandable for most of the time, but their is also a lot of "player stream" on Ogaming and also the proleague and GSL with a delay. It's delayed, but casted in live condition. The streamers didn't watch the matches before and they don't cut most of the scenes. So they should be counted. And 3000 compared to 12000 is not negligible.
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On June 04 2015 18:18 LDaVinci wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 08:24 shid0x wrote:
does proleague numbers include the french stream ?
I know its a bit delayed but its still is viewers. And it's a lot of viewers. Between 2500 and 3500 each time. Not counting O gaming TV is understandable for most of the time, but their is also a lot of "player stream" on Ogaming and also the proleague and GSL with a delay. It's delayed, but casted in live condition. The streamers didn't watch the matches before and they don't cut most of the scenes. So they should be counted. And 3000 compared to 12000 is not negligible.
It's more between 2500 and 4500/5000. Also, we don't have a lot of player stream, we "only" have PtitDrogo who's streaming every day between 2-3 hours before the main broadcast. It's understandable that Conti does not want to add French views to the English one.
@Conti : If you want to add French views for next month send me a PM on TL.
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On June 02 2015 19:50 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 03:36 Gwavajuice wrote:Nice as always Would it possible, you think, to add organizations as well, like TakeTV or O'gaming? O'Gaming said yesterday in their wcs cast that, due to the fact they cast a shitton of events, they're #1 in viewers*hours on all sc2 twitch channels (but are ofc much smaller in avg viewers). If that's true they would deserve to be there, somewhere... (maybe a special chart for organization?) edit : spelling, grr I'm intentionally only including player streams, and not organizations or talk shows or the like. It's just not as useful to rate TakeTV or O'gaming based on their average viewer count, since their viewership depends a whole lot on the event they're casting. And since a good deal of these organizations stream almost 24/7, it's only natural that their viewerhour number is incredibly high. I might do a top 50 list with every single SC2 stream (players, casters, events, organizations, etc.) some time, just for giggles, but it wouldn't really convey all that much useful information I'd say.
Yeah I totally understand your point. But it seems to me that organisations are likely to slowly become the big guys on twitch, and are slowly creating a huge audience, whatever the content. BaseTrade TV seems to have high numbers no matter what, O'gaming's underdog (a tournament for french players only) get more and more audiance, and so on.
Moreover, in all your reports, we always have this sad impression of HotS being far lower than WoL, which is maybe true, but if we added the figures of these organisations (which for the most part only started to grow after HotS release) would the viewers difference be so big?
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On June 03 2015 03:45 Shinespark wrote:
ded gaem
why you say that?
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Thanks Conti! Awesome, as always
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so noone streamed or watched lotv at all :s
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On June 04 2015 20:39 neteX wrote:why you say that?
Viewer count is so low if you compare to 2012/2013 + best streamers are teamless / casters.
Pro players don't have much viewers...
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On June 04 2015 21:29 nkr wrote:
so noone streamed or watched lotv at all :s
Part of the problem is it's a separate game on twitch. If it were the same game, lotv streamers could get more viewers and vice versa. Also, every pro complaining there is no ranked ladder. How long do you expect people to be entertained by unranked? :D
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it is in Twitch.tv's best interests to have large viewer #s.
they do nothing about view-botting.
this makes it impossible to trust the viewer numbers twitch.tv produces.
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On June 04 2015 18:47 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 18:18 LDaVinci wrote:On June 03 2015 08:24 shid0x wrote:
does proleague numbers include the french stream ?
I know its a bit delayed but its still is viewers. And it's a lot of viewers. Between 2500 and 3500 each time. Not counting O gaming TV is understandable for most of the time, but their is also a lot of "player stream" on Ogaming and also the proleague and GSL with a delay. It's delayed, but casted in live condition. The streamers didn't watch the matches before and they don't cut most of the scenes. So they should be counted. And 3000 compared to 12000 is not negligible. It's more between 2500 and 4500/5000. Also, we don't have a lot of player stream, we "only" have PtitDrogo who's streaming every day between 2-3 hours before the main broadcast. It's understandable that Conti does not want to add French views to the English one. @Conti : If you want to add French views for next month send me a PM on TL.
Didn't mean to insult O'gaming TV, sorry.
And "only" one player everyday for 2 to 3 hours is kind of a lot... I'm sorry that I don't have an exact record of O'gaming activity and that I'm "just" giving my viewer point of view. I'm sorry that I tried to defend O'gaming on the viewer count.
I will never talk again about OG tv, thanks for putting me at my humble place, where I belong.
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why isnt avilo in top 50? surely he is top 50, normally has like 700 viewers?
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i will climb my way up there soon enough when i start streaming xD
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