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[Code S] Ro32 Group H: the Sands of Time

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May 19th, 2015 20:20 GMT
2015 GSL Season 1

SBENU GSL
Season 2 Code S



and the Sands of Time
MMA, Sacsri, Curious, sOs

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...and the Sands of Time


by Destructicon
Group H, compared to the uneven distribution of the last few, is much more balanced racially. Group H also contains a mix of veterans and new players of varying degrees of strength. These are players that have all had their highs and lows, with long streaks of consistency broken by both high peaks and deep slumps. However, in terms of predictability this group is a nightmare, with the players finding themselves in a difficult period in their careers. Coupled with the ever present element of randomness that is sOs, this group is a powder keg ready to blow up at any point [E/N: remember the barrel of nitroglycerin in Lost?]

(T)MMA is the first and most seasoned played in this group. He's been through countless form swings, dramatic turns and taken a tour on the career rollercoaster, yet has always found ways of coming out on top in the end. While many doubted his success upon returning to Korea, MMA has actually done quite well for himself. He qualified for the first season of 2015's GSL, and he made a deeper run than most expected of him, defeating among others an on-form Dark, INnoVation and TY. His 4-1 loss at the hands of PartinG doesn't even look so bad in hindsight when you consider the form PartinG has shown lately (or the fact that even Maru stands almost helpless against the Conductor). While MMA did suffer from what looked like small dip in form which culminated in him being knocked out before the bracket stage at Dreamhack Tours, he quickly rebounded by winning his first ever game of Proleague for Sbenu. While a single win in such an unpredictable format may not seem like something to write home about, the significance of Proleague is not to be underestimated, and all of team Sbenu seems to have gained some shred of confidence that they previously lacked. Like last season it's difficult to know what to expect of the renounced Son of Boxer, but I still favor MMA to make it through, particularly given the peaks he has displayed in TvZ in the past. He has struggled in TvP, granted, both historically and presently, but MMA tends to rise to the occasion when situation calls for it, and there are no hundred thousand dollars on the line in this group.

Unlike MMA, (Z)Sacsri has had a hard time adjusting ever since his return to Korea. His failed attempts at making a dent in both GSL and SSL, his failure to qualify for the KeSPA Cup, and his team's lack of a Proleague partnership. Things haven't looked much better abroad, either. While Sacsri did manage to win Dreamhack Valencia 2014 soon after joining mYi, the long months that passed haven't been kind to him. He has been floating around the bracket stages of foreign tournaments, indicating that his first success might have been a rare streak to top off bouts of consistent mediocrity. His qualifier run to the second season of GSL wasn't very impressive, going through Guilty, TANGTANG, Hush and a slumping San. At a glance, you'd be tempted to give him a shot against MMA due to his 63% ZvT, but a close look will reveal it is heavily inflated from his times in Europe. Then there is sOs, who poses a considerable danger with his vast repertoire of builds. If he wants to make it, Sacsri has to prepare exceptionally well. Others have managed the same, so perhaps not all is lost.

The sands of time whirl around him, ancient dynasties turning to dust in his wake, unbeatable titans crumbling and falling apart under his watch, and (Z)Curious remains the eternal Gatekeeper. While his team twists and turns around him, old players replaced with new, new faces growing old, Curious remains the immovable constant on a team in constant flux. His is the role of Gatekeeper to Code A, the abyss from which many players fail to ever emerge. His is the eternal watch of mediocrity, the hurdle all players must pass on their roads to greatness. Balance patches and meta shifts rain down around him in destructive fragments of volatility, and Curious remains constant. His form falls and climbs again, and no matter the actions of his competitors there seems to be no ending his watch. No matter what his foes do, they repeatedly and unendingly fail to expunge his presence from Code S. His struggles stretch across expansions and radically different competitive climates, and nothing has really changed. Curious is still the one who separates the wheat from the chaff, still one to crush any player seemingly his better on his way to Code S. For a player so lacking glorious success, Curious possesses a drive no one else can boast, a consistency no one else can match. He has beaten the smartest player in the world, the best mechanical players, prodigies claiming many times his talent. Time doesn't dull his edge any more than sand wears thin the desert, and no amount of competitive pressure seems to ever topple Curious. In a group such as this, he is the one you should watch with the most care. Curious is the one that will, without a shred of mercy or compassion, send your favorite players screaming back into Code A. That is Curious's role, and that is the role Curious will continue to fill until Korean Starcraft comes crumbling down around him.
The above reflects reality in an objective fashion

Last but not least, the Mad Scientist of Proleague, (P)sOs himself. For a while it looked like sOs was ready to leave his strange mercurial state and finally stabilize. He had started racking up wins in PL and qualified for the GSL and SSL and passed his challenger opponent, Heart, in simple fashion. However, he then faltered to Dear, a much weaker opponent, and then he fell back into his usual pattern of winning and losing with no sense of rhyme or reason. Right now he seems on a downward turn, with recent losses to both Zest and Bomber in Proleague. However, such trifles haven't stopped sOs from turning things right around in the past. When he is on, sOs is a danger to everyone in his group. He can go on an absolute rampage, destroying everyone in his wake through a peculiar mix of abusive Protoss play and outsmarting on a level that is unrivaled in Starcraft. History has shown us that it is often difficult to predict which sOs shows up, but players would be wise to pay the $100.000 Man the respect he deserves.

Overall thoughts and predictions

If everything goes his way, MMA should find himself in another RO16. Judging by his character he can be hard on himself when he loses, and he no doubt put in a lot of effort to prepare after his Dreamhack debacle. The next one is much more volatile and trying to predict anything sOs related is like playing with fire. Thus, in the absence of a red-headed priestess I'm going to flip a couple of coins.

(T)MMA > (Z)Sacsri
(Z)Curious < (P)sOs
(T)MMA > (P)sOs
(Z)Curious > (Z)Sacsri
(Z)Curious > (P)sOs

(T)MMA and (Z)Curious advance

Writers: Destructicon.
Editors: Zealously.
Graphics: shiroiusagi.
Photo: GOMeXP.
Stats: Aligulac
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Elentos
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55570 Posts
May 19 2015 20:22 GMT
#2
But do you see the lines in the sand?
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Shellshock
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United States97276 Posts
May 19 2015 20:23 GMT
#3
This preview would have looked really good with a picture of curious or something.
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May 19 2015 20:25 GMT
#4
"Thus, in the absence of a red-headed priestess I'm going to flip a couple of coins." So is sOs!
FrostedMiniWheats
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United States30730 Posts
May 19 2015 20:29 GMT
#5
I'd say MMA and sOs come out. Dunno if Curious' sOs-killing powers are still with him post-patch.
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May 19 2015 20:30 GMT
#6
I think Sauce has a good chance in advancing. Im going MMA and Sauce
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Ja.Y.
Profile Joined February 2015
United States253 Posts
May 19 2015 20:33 GMT
#7
MMA played a TvT in SPL so he didn't have to show his TvP or TvZ. His TvZ has been historically strong, as noted. His TvP is on the weaker side though.

MMA and sOs to advance unless Curious found new heights with SBENU
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
May 19 2015 20:34 GMT
#8
On May 20 2015 05:29 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I'd say MMA and sOs come out. Dunno if Curious' sOs-killing powers are still with him post-patch.

Who knows. Curious definitely gave 0 fucks about the SH change vs mech in his Code A series. So maybe he knows how to deal with Protoss aswell.

This is one of the groups I'm least enthused about though, so not too sad I won't catch it live.
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TerranOwnsAll
Profile Joined January 2014
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May 19 2015 20:35 GMT
#9
On May 20 2015 05:33 Ja.Y. wrote:
MMA played a TvT in SPL so he didn't have to show his TvP or TvZ. His TvZ has been historically strong, as noted. His TvP is on the weaker side though.

MMA and sOs to advance unless Curious found new heights with SBENU


Sbenu caught fire today againt Jin Air, I wouldn't be surprised is Curious caught some of those flames!
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Circumstance
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United States11403 Posts
May 19 2015 20:36 GMT
#10
In recent times, TvZ has not been MMA's friend, but against players on the level of Sacsri and Curious, he should be fine.
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May 19 2015 20:38 GMT
#11
On May 20 2015 05:36 Circumstance wrote:
In recent times, TvZ has not been MMA's friend, but against players on the level of Sacsri and Curious, he should be fine.

what do you mean by "on the level of Curious"?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
May 19 2015 20:41 GMT
#12
On May 20 2015 05:38 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 05:36 Circumstance wrote:
In recent times, TvZ has not been MMA's friend, but against players on the level of Sacsri and Curious, he should be fine.

what do you mean by "on the level of Curious"?

Code S level, obviously.

Curious had some impressive ZvTs this year, and then he also had the complete opposite where he died to hellbat pushes 3 games in a row in Proleague. If he gets his shit together he's a super strong player though.
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Zealously
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 19 2015 20:41 GMT
#13
On May 20 2015 05:36 Circumstance wrote:
In recent times, TvZ has not been MMA's friend, but against players on the level of Sacsri and Curious, he should be fine.


I would be wary of Curious no matter the circumstance - if history is any indicator he can and will slice you in half whenever, regardless of meta or form
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Elentos
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55570 Posts
May 19 2015 20:51 GMT
#14
On May 20 2015 05:41 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 05:36 Circumstance wrote:
In recent times, TvZ has not been MMA's friend, but against players on the level of Sacsri and Curious, he should be fine.


I would be wary of Curious no matter the circumstance - if history is any indicator he can and will slice you in half whenever, regardless of meta or form

Does KeSPA not have rules against that?!

For balanced-ish game need 1 Protoss and 1 Zerg. For GomTvP need MMA and sOs.
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Zealously
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 19 2015 20:53 GMT
#15
On May 20 2015 05:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 05:41 Zealously wrote:
On May 20 2015 05:36 Circumstance wrote:
In recent times, TvZ has not been MMA's friend, but against players on the level of Sacsri and Curious, he should be fine.


I would be wary of Curious no matter the circumstance - if history is any indicator he can and will slice you in half whenever, regardless of meta or form

Does KeSPA not have rules against that?!


Not if you type "pp" first
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
May 19 2015 20:55 GMT
#16
On May 20 2015 05:53 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 05:51 Elentos wrote:
On May 20 2015 05:41 Zealously wrote:
On May 20 2015 05:36 Circumstance wrote:
In recent times, TvZ has not been MMA's friend, but against players on the level of Sacsri and Curious, he should be fine.


I would be wary of Curious no matter the circumstance - if history is any indicator he can and will slice you in half whenever, regardless of meta or form

Does KeSPA not have rules against that?!


Not if you type "pp" first

Ah. Yes. It renders them powerless. Of course.
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Roadog
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1670 Posts
May 19 2015 21:04 GMT
#17
sOs... and Sacsri in an upset. Not terribly confident in those picks though.

                 Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
sOs 67.15% 37.49% 29.65% 18.33% 14.53%
Sacsri 54.57% 27.45% 27.12% 23.88% 21.55%
Curious 41.61% 18.49% 23.12% 28.96% 29.42%
MMA 36.67% 16.57% 20.10% 28.83% 34.50%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

On May 20 2015 05:20 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
even Maru stands almost helpless against the Conductor


That's... that's pretty good.
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
May 19 2015 21:26 GMT
#18
MMA and Curious all the way
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
May 19 2015 21:58 GMT
#19
what was the deal with MMA at Dreamhack? That had to be one of his worst losses yet. Like losing to Goody in MLG 2012 bad.
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United States511 Posts
May 19 2015 22:11 GMT
#20
I would really like to see sOs and Sacsri in the round of 16, but with Parting and Life in the last GSL finals, it would only be fitting to have MMA in the running again this season.

Of course, seeing The Gatekeeper make it to the Round of 16 before dropping out to better players would be a treat as well
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Belgium3627 Posts
May 19 2015 23:04 GMT
#21
Very nice preview, thanks.
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Micronesia1338 Posts
May 19 2015 23:20 GMT
#22
Weird prediction... sOs and Curious to advance, not sure in what order though...
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9150 Posts
May 20 2015 00:09 GMT
#23
MMA and sOs for me. Curious will be bottom of the group imo
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GiTM.yOuNi
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Canada16 Posts
May 20 2015 00:23 GMT
#24
In Seoul right now, anyone kind enough to tell me if we can watch group H live in the studios and is it free of charge?
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Canada1966 Posts
May 20 2015 01:45 GMT
#25
I don't see Curious being able to beat sOs.
bObA
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France300 Posts
May 20 2015 02:23 GMT
#26
MMA and sOs imo
KingofdaHipHop
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United States25602 Posts
May 20 2015 02:31 GMT
#27
Curious vs sOs should be good, I loved their match for the SPL round 1 playoffs.

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United States808 Posts
May 20 2015 03:43 GMT
#28
On May 20 2015 09:23 GiTM.yOuNi wrote:
In Seoul right now, anyone kind enough to tell me if we can watch group H live in the studios and is it free of charge?



You should be able to watch it for free, but it has been a while since i have looked into it, I dont know if they changed it.
AxiomBlurr
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786 Posts
May 20 2015 04:08 GMT
#29
MMA and sOs I think...sOs is too tricky and will bully these zergs...
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May 20 2015 05:06 GMT
#30
Curious and $o$ for me
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Last Edited: 2015-05-20 05:35:21
May 20 2015 05:34 GMT
#31
On May 20 2015 06:58 Popkiller wrote:
what was the deal with MMA at Dreamhack? That had to be one of his worst losses yet. Like losing to Goody in MLG 2012 bad.




In this Call-in interview program, which had been showed in yesterday's Proleague commercial break, MMA was asked about his terrible performance in DH.

He said, due to some personal reasons, he didn't manage to practice for several days before the Dreamhack.

He didn't detail it, but it might be the Acer Sbenu transfer/ rent/ partnership business.
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Canada331 Posts
May 20 2015 05:54 GMT
#32
I really hope sOs can win big again. Very enjoyable to watch and I see him as a super buffed Has. I love Has.
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xenoZhang
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China142 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 07:53:01
May 20 2015 07:52 GMT
#33
MMA's tvz seems to be very shaky lately, im not that positive to see him come out of this group.
this is actually pretty weird considering his tvt is still legendary and even his tvp has greatly improved.
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Italy1741 Posts
May 20 2015 08:18 GMT
#34
MMA and sOs to advance
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United States742 Posts
May 20 2015 08:32 GMT
#35
On May 20 2015 09:23 GiTM.yOuNi wrote:
In Seoul right now, anyone kind enough to tell me if we can watch group H live in the studios and is it free of charge?

Yes you can, it's always free of charge.
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Profile Joined December 2010
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May 20 2015 13:21 GMT
#36
On May 20 2015 10:45 Just_a_Moth wrote:
I don't see Curious being able to beat sOs.

As mediocre as Curious might be, he hasn't lost to SOS. And rightfully so. SOS is an excellent cheeser but not much more.
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Latvia166 Posts
May 21 2015 06:20 GMT
#37
When is the ro16 group selection?
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