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such a bad team
Main Team
6  Bbyong
3 Bomber
7  ByuL (captain)
6  Classic
2 Hack
3 Hurricane
2 [tlpd#teams##hots]SBenu + Yoe[/tlpd]
Anti Team
4 Bunny
4 Hush
5 Panic
*subject to changes*
I can probably spend 5+ hours writing about FPL and how hard it is to make this team
and how SBENU is a mediocre pick and i'd much rather have SKT
but i have a paper to write.
@goatkiller
You generally want to pick players who are in the starting lineup. You can check if they are there over in this link:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/484948-spl15-round-3-week-1-lineups
Your anti is kind of risky because Dear and Yoda will be playing most/every round, and even if they dont have high win rates (dear does) they can go on streaks. I don't recommend having Dear or Yoda. CJ Bunny or Panic is probably a better choice.
on your main team, Super is new, but he's on KT so he will probably never play. Terminator has never seen a game in SPL this season somehow. Curious will play but he's not on the starting lineup... so it's risky. Byul is a good pick I hope (hes on my team) and Maru is a good player but he costs 9 points, and 9 points is usually out of range for a FPL pick (see Pangpootata's blog) http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/448172-guide-how-to-fpl
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On May 11 2015 12:18 iMrising wrote:such a bad teamMain Team6 Bbyong3 Bomber7 ByuL (captain) 6 Classic2 Hack3 Hurricane2 [tlpd#teams##hots]SBenu + Yoe[/tlpd] Anti Team4 Bunny4 Hush5 Panic*subject to changes* I can probably spend 5+ hours writing about FPL and how hard it is to make this team and how SBENU is a mediocre pick and i'd much rather have SKT but i have a paper to write. @goatkiller You generally want to pick players who are in the starting lineup. You can check if they are there over in this link: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/484948-spl15-round-3-week-1-lineupsYour anti is kind of risky because Dear and Yoda will be playing most/every round, and even if they dont have high win rates (dear does) they can go on streaks. I don't recommend having Dear or Yoda. CJ Bunny or Panic is probably a better choice. on your main team, Super is new, but he's on KT so he will probably never play. Terminator has never seen a game in SPL this season somehow. Curious will play but he's not on the starting lineup... so it's risky. Byul is a good pick I hope (hes on my team) and Maru is a good player but he costs 9 points, and 9 points is usually out of range for a FPL pick (see Pangpootata's blog) http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/448172-guide-how-to-fpl
That's an awesome guide dude, too bad I just started reading it! I'm gonna try to not stress too much on my first try and see how it goes. I'm sure I'll do better next round.
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This will be just my second fpl but from what I have learned it is important to pick players who are being fielded for the main team and ones who are not for the anti team. Give yourself chances to make points. Even great players won't make you any points if they don't play and even bad players sometimes win if they are fielded enough. Remember that you can trade between weeks too.
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SnorKels' Team #1
Main Team
7 Dark (captain)
9 herO
7 ByuL
2 Hack
2 Center
1 Daisy
2 SBenu + Yoe
Anti Team
6 Losira
4 BravO
4 Reality
FPL notes
jim wk 1 risk, under 3 pts. he is 3, hack is 2, taking hack. sry foreign hope.
herO freewin vs bravo
byul beats reality on deadwing (again)
ragnarok 55 hurricane 45 the players not the map
yonghwa has the edge vs sorry on vaani
classic wins despite coda bc center's weakness vs p
LiquidMVPHerO on heart innovation on head/team
dark 3.5 years younger better vz recent and losira lol
bomber wins vs bboongbboong(dumb name)
CJ +2.5 samsung -2
prime -0.5 sbenu +0.5
skt +1(1.5 head)
can't take classic for 6 despite skt bonus point, gotta take a 2. Here I was all happy with the perfect 34 point team b/c I thought Sbenu cost -2  Center is available, it's time to roll the dice.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain.
edit: I had bboongbboong and looking back over everything looks like a minus this week. Switched him out for Daisy counting on that team win being a 2 point swing, though I feel dirty for the teamchange
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Personally I'll stay away from Super and Terminator. Super is most likely gonna be behind 5 players (Zest, Life, Stats, Flash, TY) and Terminator literally played 0 games last round, Jin Air coach even fielded Symbol and Pigbaby ahead of him.
Granted they both are on good teams, but for $3 you want players that play instead of trying to get free points from team wins. I would take a risk with DRG (newly back in PL) and Bomber (played 0 games last round as well) as they both are fielded at least and in very winnable games. P.S. From his GSL interview Bomber said he recently moved to the SBENU teamhouse, I'll take it as a sign he's gonna play more.
Draft 4
Main Team
3 Bomber
7 Dark
3 DongRaeGu
2 Hack
4 MyuNgSiK
7 Zest (captain)
4 KT Rolster
Anti Team
4 Bunny
4 Hush
5 Panic
Probably my final team, but seems too all-in on SBENU for main and CJ for anti, is it a better strategy to diversify?
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Bandwagonerz: -just following the trends and going for whoever was good last season-
Main Team
Ace of Aces: 9 herO
Last season my Ace of Aces was Innovation. Big mis-SLUMP!
Maximum Hype overdrive: 7 Wrecking ByuL
STYLE START SBENU:
3 Bomber
3 DongRaeGu
4 MyuNgSiK
2 SBENU + yoe
Benchwarmer who hopefully picks up some teamwin points:
2 Check (captain)
Anti Team
3 "MapawarenessKing" MarineKing
5 "Buy low, anti high" Panic
5 "Raged after losing to two cheeses in a row" Solar
All new players on my main team. I overloaded my main team last season and gambled on one-pointers Has and ST-yoe; both disastrously failed to score a single point. Trying to avoid running into those problems this season.
I ran Solar and MarineKing on the anti last season with mediocre results; they're not playing in the first week and their values haven't quite fallen into the toilet.
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May the best anti-team lose. Losira/Bravo/Reality week 1 gogo
On May 09 2015 05:14 Fecalfeast wrote:+ Show Spoiler +This is what 30 mins of thought has given me. Criticism welcomed. I don't know about Sorry or KT week 1.
On May 09 2015 16:48 Deadly Elenchus wrote:Hacking FPL+ Show Spoiler +Main Team1 BBoongBBoong6 Bbyong7 ByuL6 Classic2 Hack (captain) 4 MyuNgSiK4 KT RolsterAnti Team5 Panic3 Pet5 SolarSo many over and underrated players this round imo. Byul is way too cheap, so is Myunsik based off recent runs in Korean tournaments. I have a hunch that Bbyong is undervalued, but let's test that. Classic has a super easy opponent in Center. BBongBBong (the player who's user ID upsets me the most) is super underrated at 1. Yes, he's bad, but he has actually done okay in Korea vs T, wheras Bomber has barely any games played. That could be an advantage though, excited to see. Panic is overhyped, but will trade if he has a good matchup. Hope I don't get destroyed by Solar :-p. Pet will never play on the new team since there are so many stars now. Good luck FPLing everyone :-D gl hf :D On May 09 2015 21:52 elwoodng wrote:
IMO the lines are pretty tight this round, hard to find undervalued picks. The hardest players for the odds-makers to set an accurate price for are the big-name but new to PL players such as MMA, DRG, Jjakji and Gumiho... so they could be the best bets for us to gain an edge.
yeah on the valuing. careful betting against the oddsmakers though 
On May 10 2015 21:59 Estancia wrote:In Flash we trust+ Show Spoiler +Flash has been always my captain since last year. Kinda sad to see him perform less on proleague, but on the bright side I have more points for other players ._.
Regarding Flash: + Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2015 19:19 egrimm wrote:+ Show Spoiler +ByuL is on fire Classic should win first match as should SKT DRG bandwagon HYPE (also Creator is pretty bad vZ) Hack is cheap, played nice TvP vs Trap previous Round and I favour SBENU vs Prime her0 is still playing very well, I wanted Maru for team diversity but he is playing vs Stats and Jin Air draw unfavourably against KT so more safe bet is her0 TaeJa cuz I need Terran balance in my team SBENU is 2 pts and probably will win with Prime. Anti seems as almost "one true anti" as for now at least. Solar+Shine do not play this Week and Samsung should lose vs CJ Panic is legit but he is also not playing and maybe overpriced at 5 pts only problem: Taeja as captain 0O
The Solar anti-hype is real, we shall see
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Heartland with Flash on the anti-team. huh
Bomber and Zoun are my maybes with next week's line-up and thread hype.
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Fail
Main Team
1 BBoongBBoong
7 ByuL (captain)
6 Dear
3 RagnaroK
4 Sorry
7 Stats
2 [tlpd#teams##hots]SBenu + Yoe[/tlpd]
Anti Team
4 Leenock
5 Panic
4 YoDa
I was heavily doubting between RagnaroK and Bomber. Since Prime's roster is really small and Ragnarok will pick up points by himself through CJ, I chose Rag. This was I can pick B4 vs Bomber and just gamble a little for a playing 1 pointer.
Wrecking Byul, Stats, Dear all 3 potential Aces
Sorry because he's turning out to be a slow monster and he's cheap again (just like Dark was very cheap 2 seasons in a row).
SBENU becuase STYLE START SBENU.
Everytime I hope my FPL to be doing good. This time I will just accept the fact that every player will just go into a slump again, because FPL hates my life
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burning flames or paradise
Main Team
6 Bbyong (captain)
3 Bomber
7 Dark
4 MyuNgSiK
3 RagnaroK
5 Yonghwa
2 [tlpd#teams##hots]SBenu + Yoe[/tlpd]
Anti Team
4 BravO
4 Bunny
5 Panic
I was originally going to try to pick a no-trade team in response to that FPL sum-up article, to prove I could score well even without trades...but I don't think I can do it...I put off making a team and threw this one together just tonight so I'm not super confident in it. Basically, there are a few too many uphill matchups in the first week for my taste, so I'll just have to rely on some good trade value going forwards... (also made a few changes after looking through this thread!)
Main:
Bbyong I consider undervalued even though he only went 2-1 last round, as he had 6 lineup appearances - amazingly, he never got to play a full half of his games as CJ smashed the opposition too quickly (or, got smashed by Jin Air). In the first round, when he actually got to play, he did really well (5-4, 2-0 in aces). I'm not expecting him to ace all that often b/c CJ have herO and ByuL but he should almost always get fielded in the regular lineup
Bomber was very impressive in GSL, and I'm hoping that being fielded this week is a sign that he is returning to the regular roster (especially impressive considering the team's recent expansion) Also, he has a very favorable opening match (DRG/Creator is harder to call as even though Creator sucks vZ, he's still a far better player overall than B4, and DRG is not as good lately as Bomber). Lastly, I have an outside hope that the team will send Bomber for an ace match or two, as they haven't had a solid ace player since Life left
Dark was simply the 7 pointer I was most comfortable picking. I like to spread players among teams and I already had 2 CJ players so no ByuL, soO is not fielded for some reason, I'm not sold on Stats yet, and Zest has a nasty habit of mucking up ace matches. Dark also looked pretty good in Kespa Cup, and hopefully he gets some ace matches (he did all the ace matches for SKT in round 1 even though Innovation was on fire back then)
Yonghwa - originally had Flash here but I needed to drop a point. Yonghwa seems to be pretty decent value, and he was especially good in round 1 (beat Zest and herO). Last round he had a string of losses, but they were to top players (Dear, Stats, Classic). In the end, I decided that although Flash is probably better, I'd rather even out the team
Myungsik - originally had HerO here but I think Myungsik is a sizable step up. He was overall mediocre in PL for Prime but kinda stepped up by the end of r2 and came out of nowhere to beat a bunch of good players in Kespa Cup qualifiers and GSL
Ragnarok - done decently recently (lost to strong Koreans, beat some middling Koreans), his match looks pretty even but the tipping point are those sweet CJ teampoints
SBENU - picking teams was very hard. I tried to game the schedule but it didn't work so I just went for value, kinda hoping SBENU can pull upsets with sponsor and player acquisition momentum. With 2 SBENU players in the main roster as well, I'm definitely leaning heavily on them to do well this round...
Detailed schedule analysis in spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +I initially looked at the teams in terms of favorable trading patterns (ie. which teams had favorable matches in the first half vs which had favorable matches in the back half) but the schedule is balanced absolutely perfectly. The top half teams (Telecoms, Jin Air, CJ) each face 2 bottom half teams in the first 3 weeks then the other 2 in the last 3 weeks, while the bottom half teams face 1 fellow bottom half team in the first 3, 1 in the last 3, and the remaining one at the midpoint, week 4. So picking teams with the aim of trading once halfway through was impossible. The best you could probably do would be CJ -> SKT at week 6, which give your teams 5 matches against a bottom half team. As that's only one more than if you kept a top half team the whole round, and discounts the possibility that SKT surges and passes CJ in trade value thus making the trade impossible, at that point I don't think it's worth the effort. (As a comparison, in the last round trading SGK -> KT at round 4 gave a full 6 matches against a bottom half team)
Anti:
I don't like picking players that are fielded for anti, but as for Bravo he's never played vP in PL (his good record is from vT), and he's vs herO of all people so I'm pretty confident (Aligulac gives an 80% for herO to win this, lol)
Panic had a nice 3-0 last round but he was only fielded those 3 times (and only beat 1 actually good player, Flash, whose vP sucks - other victims were Terror and Billowy, not exactly the cream of the crop) and he's not fielded today so I don't think the coaches are confident in him
Bunny almost never gets played, I have no idea why he costs this much. CJ teampoints will certainly hurt, but he's a pretty safe anti
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On May 11 2015 14:50 Snorkels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 19:19 egrimm wrote:+ Show Spoiler +ByuL is on fire Classic should win first match as should SKT DRG bandwagon HYPE (also Creator is pretty bad vZ) Hack is cheap, played nice TvP vs Trap previous Round and I favour SBENU vs Prime her0 is still playing very well, I wanted Maru for team diversity but he is playing vs Stats and Jin Air draw unfavourably against KT so more safe bet is her0 TaeJa cuz I need Terran balance in my team SBENU is 2 pts and probably will win with Prime. Anti seems as almost "one true anti" as for now at least. Solar+Shine do not play this Week and Samsung should lose vs CJ Panic is legit but he is also not playing and maybe overpriced at 5 pts only problem: Taeja as captain 0O The Solar anti-hype is real, we shall see
I like to have 1-2 pts Captains so I can have more valuable players in main team that I can trade away If they stop perform well. For example if afer all the hype ByuL or her0 starts losing badly I can trade them away instead of watch my team crush and burn 
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On May 11 2015 16:46 egrimm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 14:50 Snorkels wrote:On May 10 2015 19:19 egrimm wrote:+ Show Spoiler +ByuL is on fire Classic should win first match as should SKT DRG bandwagon HYPE (also Creator is pretty bad vZ) Hack is cheap, played nice TvP vs Trap previous Round and I favour SBENU vs Prime her0 is still playing very well, I wanted Maru for team diversity but he is playing vs Stats and Jin Air draw unfavourably against KT so more safe bet is her0 TaeJa cuz I need Terran balance in my team SBENU is 2 pts and probably will win with Prime. Anti seems as almost "one true anti" as for now at least. Solar+Shine do not play this Week and Samsung should lose vs CJ Panic is legit but he is also not playing and maybe overpriced at 5 pts only problem: Taeja as captain 0O The Solar anti-hype is real, we shall see I like to have 1-2 pts Captains so I can have more valuable players in main team that I can trade away If they stop perform well. For example if afer all the hype ByuL or her0 starts losing badly I can trade them away instead of watch my team crush and burn
There are two ways of doing it, I think your way is the more safe way but I believe its also a strategy that is unlikely to net you top 10. You basically agree to have one player on your team that won't earn you many points.
I always go all in on my captain, like this time its Dear, last time it was herO the one before that it was Life. I pick the player that is both worth the cost and the player I cant fathom slumping too hard. This way even if I have some cheap players (like this round Bomber and DRG) if they take a win or two I can later trade them up and in the end I'll have a whole team of players that all play every week. That usually guarantees a lot of points.
Shuffleblade
Main Team
3 Bomber
5 Creator
6 Dear (captain)
3 DongRaeGu
6 Losira
5 Yonghwa
2 SBenu + Yoe
Anti Team
4 Bunny
4 Hush
5 Trap
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On May 11 2015 17:09 Shuffleblade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 16:46 egrimm wrote:On May 11 2015 14:50 Snorkels wrote:On May 10 2015 19:19 egrimm wrote:+ Show Spoiler +ByuL is on fire Classic should win first match as should SKT DRG bandwagon HYPE (also Creator is pretty bad vZ) Hack is cheap, played nice TvP vs Trap previous Round and I favour SBENU vs Prime her0 is still playing very well, I wanted Maru for team diversity but he is playing vs Stats and Jin Air draw unfavourably against KT so more safe bet is her0 TaeJa cuz I need Terran balance in my team SBENU is 2 pts and probably will win with Prime. Anti seems as almost "one true anti" as for now at least. Solar+Shine do not play this Week and Samsung should lose vs CJ Panic is legit but he is also not playing and maybe overpriced at 5 pts only problem: Taeja as captain 0O The Solar anti-hype is real, we shall see I like to have 1-2 pts Captains so I can have more valuable players in main team that I can trade away If they stop perform well. For example if afer all the hype ByuL or her0 starts losing badly I can trade them away instead of watch my team crush and burn There are two ways of doing it, I think your way is the more safe way but I believe its also a strategy that is unlikely to net you top 10. You basically agree to have one player on your team that won't earn you many points. I always go all in on my captain, like this time its Dear, last time it was herO the one before that it was Life. I pick the player that is both worth the cost and the player I cant fathom slumping too hard. This way even if I have some cheap players (like this round Bomber and DRG) if they take a win or two I can later trade them up and in the end I'll have a whole team of players that all play every week. That usually guarantees a lot of points. ShufflebladeMain Team3 Bomber5 Creator6 Dear (captain) 3 DongRaeGu6 Losira5 Yonghwa2 SBenu + Yoe Anti Team4 Bunny4 Hush5 Trap
Yeah it is more safe way also I prefer to have 5 better players than 6 slightly worse and have 1-2 Ace players to net me points for ace appearances and for winning streaks. Rest of points I allocate into undervalued players and/or guys who are likely to win theirs first match and then trade them for better players. But yeah You're maybe right that it is less likely to win whole thing that way
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And thats for... People that post in LR threads? =P
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Crack a nut with a sledgehammer
Main Team
3 Bomber
6 Classic
2 Hack
9 herO
2 Impact (captain)
4 Sorry
4 SK Telecom T1
Anti Team
3 MarineKing
5 Panic
5 Solar
Bomber
As previously mentioned: I would love to see him returning to the regular roster and if so, he could easily be the ace player
Classic
Should win against $2 Center
herO
Originaly Buyl, but finaly I could afford herO
Impact
I realy expect him to play once or twice + some dirty SKT points
Sorry
Originaly InNoVation, but without him I can afford herO and SKT (even though I am scared of Yonghwa)
SKT
As I expect them to win this week, I gonna trade them away for KT or JinAir, because both face SBENU and Prime in week 2 and week 3.
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Man you know zerg has actually been doing great lately in tournaments even with the patch?
Your anti might still work out great but the reasoning worries me =P
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On May 11 2015 18:21 Shuffleblade wrote:Man you know zerg has actually been doing great lately in tournaments even with the patch? Your anti might still work out great but the reasoning worries me =P
Zergs have been doing... okay... but that's largely because their opponents were drunk or overaggressive. I mean, KR Terrans and Protosses seem to enjoy throwing games vs Zergs so maybe it'll be fine, but I think they're going to struggle more as people realise all you have to do is play a safe macro game and then you win.
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