EPTGreatest Players of All Time: The Finale - Page 21
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
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SohcranA
United States36 Posts
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Rain.100
Germany946 Posts
On June 08 2015 03:27 SohcranA wrote: Fun series. No Stephano on the list kind of hurts though. When he hit the scene, no one could touch him, including the Koreans! Except maybe MVP. Maybe... lol calm down there | ||
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
On June 08 2015 02:54 radscorpion9 wrote: I feel the same way. I don't follow the scene at all lately, but its great to remember the good old days with nestea and MVP, and also the loveable MKP. Nice memories This. I stopped playing because all my favorite players quit and the games the play these days seem boring as hell. Gotta love IMMvp. | ||
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xxx30
Hong Kong2 Posts
Hope is good shit, isn't it? Naniwa, maybe too. | ||
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outscar
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Cam Connor
Canada786 Posts
#memories | ||
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Dingodile
4132 Posts
first year is true, only mvp and nestea was on his level or better. Sadly they didnt meet often. Stephano's 2nd year was a joke (still good enough to be (one of the) best foreigner). | ||
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Naikonz
Romania65 Posts
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WaylanderSC2_
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Johnny played in an exclusively White league that is now almost entirely black. MVP played in an exclusively eSF league that is now almost entirely KeSPA. In terms of skill, Innovation is the best player of all time. In terms of accomplishments, I'd still say players like Innovation and Life are ahead of MVP-- most of the players MVP played against in those early GSL days are retired now.. | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3325 Posts
2 Players will play: Bo3 in WoL Bo3 in HotS and then if it's tied, a Bo3 in LotV to decide. | ||
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Magnifico
1958 Posts
On October 08 2015 22:12 WaylanderSC2_ wrote: Saying MVP is the best player of all time is like saying Johnny Unitas is the best QB of all time.. Johnny played in an exclusively White league that is now almost entirely black. MVP played in an exclusively eSF league that is now almost entirely KeSPA. In terms of skill, Innovation is the best player of all time. In terms of accomplishments, I'd still say players like Innovation and Life are ahead of MVP-- most of the players MVP played against in those early GSL days are retired now.. That's tricky. Do you know Pele? When he played there were not goalkeeper trainers. How can we judge him the best football/soccer player of all times if he played against shitty goalkeepers? | ||
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WaylanderSC2_
24 Posts
On October 08 2015 22:51 Tiaraju9 wrote: That's tricky. Do you know Pele? When he played there were not goalkeeper trainers. How can we judge him the best football/soccer player of all times if he played against shitty goalkeepers? I think it's stupid to compare different eras together. Babe Ruth played when there were hardly any trainers, no black or Latino players in the league, and weight training was almost non existent. Saying he is the best player of all time, compared to players like Barry Bonds or Albert Puljos is just stupid. If Babe played in the league now he'd get his ass whooped, same as if MVP in his prime played at the moment. Imagine if NFL switched to a different league, and then the good NFL players stayed in the NFL and the bad ones joined "GFL." A player pretty good in the NFL(MVP) decided to switch to the GFL, in which he dominates. Eventually, the rest of the NFL players join the GFL, almost immediately replacing all GFL players and forcing MVP to retire. MVPs results realistically don't mean much when he was playing against such weak competition. | ||
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chiasmus
United States134 Posts
It comes down to what you think it means to be the greatest of all time. Greatest relative to the people you played against, or greatest relative to everyone who ever played the game? Neither one feels quite right. It's almost certainly true that Ruth would get destroyed in modern-day baseball, and that Mvp could never have competed with today's elite players. But their accomplishments in their own era are what we can actually observe, whereas the grand tournament of every player in history is just an impossible counterfactual. I guess the point is, all-time rankings are inherently really subjective and kind of silly. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
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Sakat
Croatia1599 Posts
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