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Axiom dissolve their partnership with TCM

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AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 17:18:57
April 28 2015 13:33 GMT
#1
Olimoley (who manages Axiom) had this to say about it :

It's not simply poor performance (although he certainly showed that too). Failure to show up for the 1st clan war, barely making it for the 2nd, lack of preparation, and general disinterest in even participating with us in the first place.
EDIT: further explanation on our decision
When we first created the partnership, SoulKey made it very clear it wasn't his idea to create this partnership. We told him we could dissolve it if he wanted in case he was forced into something he didn't want to be a part of, be he said it was fine and he'd play.
The first clan war we participated in, we made sure SoulKey knew the time and date, reminding him 2 days before the event, 1 day before the event, and the night before the event of the time and place. We gave him a second chance with our ace match, where he proceeded to clearly show he didn't practice or glance at the map pool.
He apologized and informed it would never happen again.
This clan war, we did the same thing. Informed him of his match and time well ahead of time, including the night before the match where he responded "yes, bro, I understand". During the match before his (Heart vs Catz), we called, texted, kakoed (Instant messenger), and even called a couple people close to track him down. He finally responded 1 minute before his disqualification, made it in time, but evidently proved he had not prepared at all.
Our clan war scores have not been very good since it's inception, and we can't work with someone who cannot take our tournament matches seriously. We're giving our best, but having maps basically handed to our opponents is not what we need.
This is what led to our decision to dissolve the partnership.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
April 28 2015 13:36 GMT
#2
Sounds like a logical decision from Axiom. Kind of shitty by SoulKey. Even if he didn't want to do the partnership this is still his job to be a professional gamer. Sometimes in your job you need to do stuff you don't exactly want to do.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 28 2015 13:39 GMT
#3
that's really low out of SK, I hope Axiom can find another player to field
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Meavis
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Netherlands1300 Posts
April 28 2015 13:39 GMT
#4
and with impact leaving axiom this means the team is down to 4 right?

also can someone confirm this is just enough to keep playing in clanwars?
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schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 13:41:15
April 28 2015 13:40 GMT
#5
edit: oops, my bad
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55573 Posts
April 28 2015 13:40 GMT
#6
On April 28 2015 22:39 Meavis wrote:
and with impact leaving axiom this means the team is down to 4 right?

also can someone confirm this is just enough to keep playing in clanwars?

4 players is not enough, every team needs at least 5. Axiom's gonna sit out until they find a new partner.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 14:06:10
April 28 2015 14:05 GMT
#7
They could change one of the 1v1 to Archon mode so 4 players would be alright. Or just let play Has as a mercenary everytime someone is absent.
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
April 28 2015 14:06 GMT
#8
Axiom not satisfied with Soulkey's performance, lol
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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
April 28 2015 14:09 GMT
#9
Is soulkey even lazier than Genius??
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55573 Posts
April 28 2015 14:10 GMT
#10
On April 28 2015 23:06 REyeM wrote:
Axiom not satisfied with Soulkey's performance, lol

I mean, calling it a "performance" is already an overstatement.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
April 28 2015 14:12 GMT
#11
Oh Soulkey, what the hell are you doing!?
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
April 28 2015 14:12 GMT
#12
On April 28 2015 23:12 Penev wrote:
Oh Soulkey, what the hell are you doing!?


Losing to Creator.
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
April 28 2015 14:15 GMT
#13
Wow I'd never had thought this of Soulkey, this really changes my view of the guy. I was happy for Creator winning against SK even though I thought it was surprising. Now I'm also happy that SK lost lol XD
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
April 28 2015 14:28 GMT
#14
On April 28 2015 23:10 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 23:06 REyeM wrote:
Axiom not satisfied with Soulkey's performance, lol

I mean, calling it a "performance" is already an overstatement.


On April 28 2015 22:33 AWalker9 wrote:

It's not simply poor performance (although he certainly showed that too).
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
April 28 2015 14:46 GMT
#15
Totally understand Axiom position
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KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
April 28 2015 14:56 GMT
#16
I used to have a lot of respect for Soulkey but I lost a little after reading this. I'm starting to wonder if his interest in SC2 is fading again, his performances recently just haven't been at the level I'd expect from him.

I totally understand Axiom's position, and while I'm sad they've got to sit out for a while from Clan Wars due to lack of players it's better to do that than continuously have issues with one player that shouldn't be happening.
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dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1160 Posts
April 28 2015 15:01 GMT
#17
Well, that seems to be about all there is to say, really.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45915 Posts
April 28 2015 15:03 GMT
#18
On April 28 2015 23:06 REyeM wrote:
Axiom not satisfied with Soulkey's performance, lol


Why "lol"? The OP gives plenty of reasons why SK acted unprofessionally and explained that didn't practice appropriately.

Sad to see SK behave this way, and I feel bad for Axiom.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 28 2015 15:04 GMT
#19
SoulKey showing his inner Stephano, I see.
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
April 28 2015 15:09 GMT
#20
So I'm guessing MMA will replace Soulkey?
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KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
April 28 2015 15:14 GMT
#21
On April 29 2015 00:09 royalroadweed wrote:
So I'm guessing MMA will replace Soulkey?


Acer is teamed up with DPix so he can't.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 28 2015 15:18 GMT
#22
On April 29 2015 00:14 KatatoniK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 00:09 royalroadweed wrote:
So I'm guessing MMA will replace Soulkey?


Acer is teamed up with DPix so he can't.

Just have SBENU sponsor MMA so he can leave Acer and thus play for Axiom d:
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neteX
Profile Joined April 2015
Sweden285 Posts
April 28 2015 15:22 GMT
#23
What happens to Soulkey now?
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
April 28 2015 15:25 GMT
#24
Soulkey just chilling
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 28 2015 15:26 GMT
#25
On April 29 2015 00:22 neteX wrote:
What happens to Soulkey now?

nothing else he just doesn't play in shoutcraft clan wars
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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
April 28 2015 16:00 GMT
#26
Wow, it feels like Axiom Barely Exists now!
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sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden890 Posts
April 28 2015 16:12 GMT
#27
soulkey also suspected of matchfixing recently .. what a guy
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 28 2015 16:51 GMT
#28
I wouldn't rush to judge this, I'm sure a different story can be told from SK side
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55573 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 16:57:24
April 28 2015 16:56 GMT
#29
On April 29 2015 01:51 Skynx wrote:
I wouldn't rush to judge this, I'm sure a different story can be told from SK side

What story is there to be told? He didn't show up in time for Axiom's first clanwar, only barely made it for the 2nd and he was unprepared for the maps he played on. That's unacceptable for Axiom and unprofessional from Soulkey.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
April 28 2015 17:10 GMT
#30
if he's not happy with how SK conducted himself and wants to dissolve the partnership that's absolutely 100% fine in my book as it's his business venture, and i honestly don't care. but once again he has to make a big dramatic statement about it (with the excuse of "transparency") and throw around community clout to create artificial drama because it hurt TB's ego that a player turned his nose up at his event

it's not "transparency" to trash an employee/business partner/whatever after severing ties, it's just being vindictive and egotistical
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 28 2015 17:14 GMT
#31
Damn, that sucks! I was hoping to see more of Soulkey in ClanWars and in general, too.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
April 28 2015 17:16 GMT
#32
On April 29 2015 02:10 brickrd wrote:
if he's not happy with how SK conducted himself and wants to dissolve the partnership that's absolutely 100% fine in my book as it's his business venture, and i honestly don't care. but once again he has to make a big dramatic statement about it (with the excuse of "transparency") and throw around community clout to create artificial drama because it hurt TB's ego that a player turned his nose up at his event

it's not "transparency" to trash an employee/business partner/whatever after severing ties, it's just being vindictive and egotistical

What? TB hasn't made any statement. The statement on the first page was made by Olimoley who helps manage the team not TB.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
April 28 2015 17:17 GMT
#33
damn, soulkey been getting some negative press about him.
The one with rumor match fixing against creator game 1 in GSL code S and now this
really disappointing...
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
April 28 2015 17:18 GMT
#34
On April 29 2015 02:10 brickrd wrote:
if he's not happy with how SK conducted himself and wants to dissolve the partnership that's absolutely 100% fine in my book as it's his business venture, and i honestly don't care. but once again he has to make a big dramatic statement about it (with the excuse of "transparency") and throw around community clout to create artificial drama because it hurt TB's ego that a player turned his nose up at his event

it's not "transparency" to trash an employee/business partner/whatever after severing ties, it's just being vindictive and egotistical

Next time, please engage your brain before writing.

On-topic: Sad to see Soulkey demonstrating such a low level of professionalism.
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
April 28 2015 17:20 GMT
#35
On April 28 2015 23:06 REyeM wrote:
Axiom not satisfied with Soulkey's performance, lol


TB already nuked his account. Your trolling has no power here
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5616 Posts
April 28 2015 17:48 GMT
#36
Such sulky behaviour, for shame.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 28 2015 17:52 GMT
#37
It's so sad that this thread occurred after TB left. Maybe if people stir enough shit, there is still a chance for a show!
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 18:33:31
April 28 2015 18:32 GMT
#38
On April 28 2015 22:36 Tenks wrote:
Sounds like a logical decision from Axiom. Kind of shitty by SoulKey. Even if he didn't want to do the partnership this is still his job to be a professional gamer. Sometimes in your job you need to do stuff you don't exactly want to do.


On April 28 2015 23:15 Shuffleblade wrote:
Wow I'd never had thought this of Soulkey, this really changes my view of the guy. I was happy for Creator winning against SK even though I thought it was surprising. Now I'm also happy that SK lost lol XD


Hasn't this been SoulKey's attitude since Woojin Stars dissolved though? His results have just been getting worse and worse and he just doesn't seem to care lol.

Edit: Also the obligatory note that the game against Creator was suspect as well.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
April 28 2015 18:48 GMT
#39
On April 29 2015 01:00 Yonnua wrote:
Wow, it feels like Axiom Barely Exists now!

Hehe, I see what you did there.
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