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I'm going to guess the top 5 is
1. Mvp
2. Life
3. Taeja
4. MC
5. Polt
Don't see how it can be any other players because I can't think of anyone else who would rank above MMA. The main question is who will be 4-5. I think polt is a lock for 5 unless I'm wrong and overestimating MC, then when it comes to MC or Polt vs Taeja i see taeja winning. So taeja must be 3. There's no way taeja beats out mvp or life. Polt and MC are both dinosaurs in sc2 but I think MC has been slightly more " Great " over the years, it's really hard to say for sure though since I know stuchiu isn't factoring in prize money.
What everyone really wants to see is if life or mvp is #1. If this list was made next year life would probably be #1 but i think he's not quite there yet. Then again I've already been very wrong about 6-10 so who knows
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On April 19 2015 02:33 Zealously wrote:
This list is extremely biased according to my own extremely unbiased opinion
Life confirmed second.
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Glad to see IdrA and Pigbaby made the top 5
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Polt, Taeja, MC, Life and Mvp it is.
Loved the writeup for Nestea.
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Taeja won't be on the list so that this article can be claimed as a counterexample whenever Liquid bias is called. That fixes the Polt vs. PartinG conundrum too. :-p
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On April 19 2015 04:45 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 04:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
alright but why do people still think herO is there hahaha herO earns a top10 place more than Rain imo. He's been consistently one of the best players. And the only one to win 3 IEMs
herO's been 'consistently one of the best' for one year.
Rain's been 'consistently one of the best' for about two and a half.
Not to mention herO hasn't won a tier 1 event aside from maybe San Jose.
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On April 19 2015 01:08 JoshSuth wrote:
There are still SIX players missing that should be in the Top 15...
herO
PartinG
MC
TaeJa
Life
Mvp
Which one didn't make the list?!
probably herO or PartinG. Both are good but herO only has a few IEM championships under his belt, and PartinG isn't at the level of the rest.
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It's funny to think how much current success influences opinion.
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On April 19 2015 06:55 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 04:45 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On April 19 2015 04:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
alright but why do people still think herO is there hahaha herO earns a top10 place more than Rain imo. He's been consistently one of the best players. And the only one to win 3 IEMs herO's been 'consistently one of the best' for one year. Rain's been 'consistently one of the best' for about two and a half. Not to mention herO hasn't won a tier 1 event aside from maybe San Jose.
I agree. I wouldn't rank herO or even Parting above Rain. However, I'd rank parting over leenock.
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Ranking is obviously :
- Polt
- MC
- Taeja
- Life
- Mvp
On April 19 2015 06:15 Dodgin wrote:
I'm going to guess the top 5 is
1. Mvp
2. Life
3. Taeja
4. MC
5. Polt
Don't see how it can be any other players because I can't think of anyone else who would rank above MMA. The main question is who will be 4-5. I think polt is a lock for 5 unless I'm wrong and overestimating MC, then when it comes to MC or Polt vs Taeja i see taeja winning. So taeja must be 3. There's no way taeja beats out mvp or life. Polt and MC are both dinosaurs in sc2 but I think MC has been slightly more " Great " over the years, it's really hard to say for sure though since I know stuchiu isn't factoring in prize money.
What everyone really wants to see is if life or mvp is #1. If this list was made next year life would probably be #1 but i think he's not quite there yet. Then again I've already been very wrong about 6-10 so who knows
You stole my ranking! Bad boy!
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On April 19 2015 05:01 Jermius wrote:
Bomber or Parting not even making the top 16 makes this list difficult to discuss or even properly understand the criteria, especially with players like Taeja and Polt making the top 5 (and if either is excluded from the list entirely that would be even more ridiculous).
I love Bomber, but in terms if achievement, he has nothing on Korean tournaments. Winning code A is really not at the same level as winning code S. Polt at least has the GSL Super tournament, and Taeja has many more international tournaments.
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On April 19 2015 07:00 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 06:55 Soularion wrote:On April 19 2015 04:45 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On April 19 2015 04:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
alright but why do people still think herO is there hahaha herO earns a top10 place more than Rain imo. He's been consistently one of the best players. And the only one to win 3 IEMs herO's been 'consistently one of the best' for one year. Rain's been 'consistently one of the best' for about two and a half. Not to mention herO hasn't won a tier 1 event aside from maybe San Jose. I agree. I wouldn't rank herO or even Parting above Rain. However, I'd rank parting over leenock.
It depends on how much you value longevity. I don't think PartinG can touch Leenock's peak, personally.
Leenock 2011 : GSL November (2nd), MLG Providence (1st) - both tier S.
Leenock 2012 : 2 GSL Top 8s, MLG Summer Championship (1st), MLG Fall Championship (2nd), IPL5 (1st), Blizzard Cup (top 4)
PartinG 2012 : 1 GSL Top 4, 3 GSL/OSL Top 8s, WCS Korea (3rd), WCS Asia (2nd), WCS Finals (1st), Blizzard Cup (2nd)
Leenock 2013 : 3 GSL Top 32, 1 DH championship.
PartinG 2013 : 2 GSL Top 8s, 1 GSL Top 16, Red Bull championship.
Leenock 2014/2015 : 2 GSL Top 32, minor foreign tournament success, SSL top 8
PartinG 2014/2015 : 1 GSL Top 8, 2 GSL Top 16s, 1 GSL 2nd, high success in fairly minor foreign tournaments.
Note that I'm not sure if the list even counts PartinG's recent GSL final, considering it was written fairly early into 2015. Maybe PartinG and Maru would both rise if you considered those results, I'm not sure.
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MarineKing > PartinG since he beat him at the IPL GSTL
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I don't really agree with Taeja being in Top5. I may rate HSC or many foreign tournaments too low.
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On April 19 2015 01:41 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 01:39 Yorkie wrote:On April 19 2015 01:37 Shellshock wrote:On April 19 2015 01:34 Yorkie wrote:On April 19 2015 01:33 Shellshock wrote:On April 19 2015 01:30 Darkhorse wrote:On April 19 2015 01:29 thecrazymunchkin wrote:On April 19 2015 01:28 Darkhorse wrote:On April 19 2015 01:26 Undead1993 wrote:On April 19 2015 01:24 Darkhorse wrote:
I wanna argue with people. Someone argue with me bomber is overrated even lost against pigbaby, the whole series pigbaby just trolled him with carriers and tempests but bomber was still helpless. If one terrible series DQs you then every player on this list is DQ'd I don't think anyone's arguing that Bomber isn't a great player, but the right question to ask is who you'd kick off the top 15/16 for him Marineking/DRG/Leenock/Rain/Zest /yawn On April 19 2015 01:29 Undead1993 wrote:On April 19 2015 01:28 Darkhorse wrote:On April 19 2015 01:26 Undead1993 wrote:On April 19 2015 01:24 Darkhorse wrote:
I wanna argue with people. Someone argue with me bomber is overrated even lost against pigbaby, the whole series pigbaby just trolled him with carriers and tempests but bomber was still helpless. If one terrible series DQs you then every player on this list is DQ'd dude is that how your arguing works? i thought we are going to talk shit and not being reasonable oh well Ah so that's how it is? Then Zest is a giant noob who can't even make Code A DAE loss to TANGTANG waowzers holy moly he isn't even top 50 Bomber is a runner who never got close to winning anything in Korea after Byun broke his spirit and ruined any hope he ever had of making a deep run in the GSL WCS season 2 Global Finals rekt Is the 2-0 win vs Grubby or 3-2 vs Scarlett the victory that makes him a top 10 player? Or maybe it was being the most overrated terran in the world for 2 full years Nah it was being arguably the most successful terran of 2013 followed by being the most successful terran of 2014. Every terran that played in GSL > anything Bomber did in 2010 Mvp, MMA, Polt > anything Bomber did in 2011 TaeJa & Marineking > anything Bomber did in 2012 Maru winning OSL > anything Bomber did in 2013 Innovation winning GSL > anything Bomber did in 2014
This is dumb, marineking did all of his stuff in 2011 when zerg and protoss sucked. It was all terrans until 2012.
I guess you feel that an MLG win is better than a gsl win. go whine somewhere else its not. Bomber/stephano got screwed. MarineKing had his chances and always cried cried cried. stephano had more tier 2 wins, and bomber had more tier 1 wins. When Marineking realized that he'd have to scout because his greedy play was getting punished, he quit and went to league.
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On April 19 2015 07:29 Wildmoon wrote:
I don't really agree with Taeja being in Top5. I may rate HSC or many foreign tournaments too low.
A lot of his tournaments were still against top quality Korean players too though.
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I got 6players that are definitely missing in the top 15 for me. :S
3easy ones
Mvp... without a question rank 1 or 2.
Life... chance that he is rank 1. Objectively Mvp had more success when he was successful, but you could value Life's success higher because the competition is tougher nowadays. Given how high Nestea is placed, I think it's going to be number two.
MC... yeah, pretty simple. must be somewhere there. Only reason he is not 3rd would be same as when Life takes first.
the other 3:
TaeJa. Easily the most successful player in the last years in amount of tournament wins. But no GSL/WCS titles. Only one GSL semis. Hardest player in the history of SC2 to rank properly.
PartinG. Easily a more successful Kong than Marineking and more successful than the likes of Leenock or Rain which all made the list.
Polt. Similar to TaeJa but he has been around for longer and won a big GSL title and another 2 foreign WCS titles.
And then there is another one that stuchiu brought into play with
A basic guideline is Blizzcons(Only 2013+) > GSL > OSL/SSL/Kespa Cup/WCS (2012 KR)/WCG KR/Blizzcon 2011 > International Tournaments
introducing sOs. Won a blizzcon amongst many other Korean tournament top finishes and championships.
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On April 19 2015 07:08 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 07:00 royalroadweed wrote:On April 19 2015 06:55 Soularion wrote:On April 19 2015 04:45 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On April 19 2015 04:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
alright but why do people still think herO is there hahaha herO earns a top10 place more than Rain imo. He's been consistently one of the best players. And the only one to win 3 IEMs herO's been 'consistently one of the best' for one year. Rain's been 'consistently one of the best' for about two and a half. Not to mention herO hasn't won a tier 1 event aside from maybe San Jose. I agree. I wouldn't rank herO or even Parting above Rain. However, I'd rank parting over leenock. It depends on how much you value longevity. I don't think PartinG can touch Leenock's peak, personally. Leenock 2011 : GSL November (2nd), MLG Providence (1st) - both tier S. Leenock 2012 : 2 GSL Top 8s, MLG Summer Championship (1st), MLG Fall Championship (2nd), IPL5 (1st), Blizzard Cup (top 4) PartinG 2012 : 1 GSL Top 4, 3 GSL/OSL Top 8s, WCS Korea (3rd), WCS Asia (2nd), WCS Finals (1st), Blizzard Cup (2nd) Leenock 2013 : 3 GSL Top 32, 1 DH championship. PartinG 2013 : 2 GSL Top 8s, 1 GSL Top 16, Red Bull championship. Leenock 2014/2015 : 2 GSL Top 32, minor foreign tournament success, SSL top 8 PartinG 2014/2015 : 1 GSL Top 8, 2 GSL Top 16s, 1 GSL 2nd, high success in fairly minor foreign tournaments. Note that I'm not sure if the list even counts PartinG's recent GSL final, considering it was written fairly early into 2015. Maybe PartinG and Maru would both rise if you considered those results, I'm not sure.
how people rate a tournament which place in one weekend on the same level as a gsl still baffles me
also parting WCG, HSC and 2nd GSL global tournament
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On April 19 2015 07:44 Fuell wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 07:08 Soularion wrote:On April 19 2015 07:00 royalroadweed wrote:On April 19 2015 06:55 Soularion wrote:On April 19 2015 04:45 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On April 19 2015 04:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
alright but why do people still think herO is there hahaha herO earns a top10 place more than Rain imo. He's been consistently one of the best players. And the only one to win 3 IEMs herO's been 'consistently one of the best' for one year. Rain's been 'consistently one of the best' for about two and a half. Not to mention herO hasn't won a tier 1 event aside from maybe San Jose. I agree. I wouldn't rank herO or even Parting above Rain. However, I'd rank parting over leenock. It depends on how much you value longevity. I don't think PartinG can touch Leenock's peak, personally. Leenock 2011 : GSL November (2nd), MLG Providence (1st) - both tier S. Leenock 2012 : 2 GSL Top 8s, MLG Summer Championship (1st), MLG Fall Championship (2nd), IPL5 (1st), Blizzard Cup (top 4) PartinG 2012 : 1 GSL Top 4, 3 GSL/OSL Top 8s, WCS Korea (3rd), WCS Asia (2nd), WCS Finals (1st), Blizzard Cup (2nd) Leenock 2013 : 3 GSL Top 32, 1 DH championship. PartinG 2013 : 2 GSL Top 8s, 1 GSL Top 16, Red Bull championship. Leenock 2014/2015 : 2 GSL Top 32, minor foreign tournament success, SSL top 8 PartinG 2014/2015 : 1 GSL Top 8, 2 GSL Top 16s, 1 GSL 2nd, high success in fairly minor foreign tournaments. Note that I'm not sure if the list even counts PartinG's recent GSL final, considering it was written fairly early into 2015. Maybe PartinG and Maru would both rise if you considered those results, I'm not sure. how people rate a tournament which place in one weekend on the same level as a gsl still baffles me also parting WCG, HSC and 2nd GSL global tournament
All pretty much irrelevant. I guess GSL Global Tournament is kinda relevant, but even then not by much.
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