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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 20 2015 23:19 GMT
#441
On April 21 2015 08:16 Wuster wrote:
[...]
I mean, Wolf knew the cheese immediately when Byul sent his drone out what's MKP's excuse? Same as Flash's? Something else?
[...]

What? Haha... of all suspicious things, you pick the drone that the caster with full vision saw but that MarineKing can't see that early in the fog of war?
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
April 20 2015 23:26 GMT
#442
That's not my point at all, rather that Wolf had that cheese in the forefront of his mind enough that the minute something weird happened he was ready to let us know pretty confidently what was going to happen.

MKP saw a few weird things long before his rocks were broken (no natural, late pool, no hidden gold bases, the blip on his minimap by his rocks). And somehow none of it triggered the warning bells.

I wish Flash hadn't fallen for this cheese, then I could argue that MKP shouldn't have. But Flash did and gave an explanation for why, MKP didn't.

That's my point.
Swoopae
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia339 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 00:58:38
April 21 2015 00:58 GMT
#443
Glad mvp made the statement but i dont exactly feel like they did a thorough investigation and it was basically a case of we asked him he denied it lets move on. I appreciate them moving the captaincy to another player but this was not exactly a legitimate investigation. Still at least they made a statement no other teams with players under suspicion have and neither has kespa. Personally im still convinced marineking threw the match with 99%ish certainty but everyone can draw their own conclusions i guess. This is going to keep happening though until steps are taken to punish the match fixers and we are going to be back here in a few days weeks or months with another situation.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 10:30:14
May 07 2015 10:25 GMT
#444
http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=e_sports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=382&article_id=0000350211&date=20150507&page=1
According to this one certain progamer was interrogated by Korean police for betting related affairs.

http://www.gameshot.net/common/con_view.php?code=GA554b2e40e08a9
Another Korean media speculating it is Soulkey.

(basic info translated by wooyeon)

Naver's title pic was changed to a generic sketch but this is the one they use initially:
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 07 2015 10:27 GMT
#445
So the police is involved? I guess that was really being investigated then
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
May 07 2015 10:32 GMT
#446
On the other hand Naver did not say what game, so it might be other games.
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padiseal2
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria721 Posts
May 07 2015 10:57 GMT
#447


Can someone translate?
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
May 07 2015 11:01 GMT
#448
http://e-sports.or.kr/board_kespa2014.php?b_no=6&_module=data&_page=view&b_pid=9999594300
KeSPA's announcement, basically says the aforementioned player did receive match-fixing proposals but turned them down.
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Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
May 07 2015 11:03 GMT
#449
we really got a kespa statement?
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
May 07 2015 11:03 GMT
#450
:/
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 07 2015 11:06 GMT
#451
I don't see anything in the articles about which matches they are referring to.. I imagine it must be the Code A match against Creator..
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 07 2015 11:08 GMT
#452
On May 07 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I don't see anything in the articles about which matches they are referring to.. I imagine it must be the Code A match against Creator..


it's the one with pinnacle suspending the bet yeah, could've been something else.
It's good to see some action taken but I really hope it doesn't make "dead game" a reality :'(
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 07 2015 11:10 GMT
#453
On May 07 2015 20:08 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I don't see anything in the articles about which matches they are referring to.. I imagine it must be the Code A match against Creator..


it's the one with pinnacle suspending the bet yeah, could've been something else.
It's good to see some action taken but I really hope it doesn't make "dead game" a reality :'(


Not really..Sc2 is very popular at the moment (I believe at its peak) in Korea.

It's outside of Korea where the lack of popularity/tournaments is the issue.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 07 2015 11:12 GMT
#454
On May 07 2015 20:10 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 20:08 sAsImre wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I don't see anything in the articles about which matches they are referring to.. I imagine it must be the Code A match against Creator..


it's the one with pinnacle suspending the bet yeah, could've been something else.
It's good to see some action taken but I really hope it doesn't make "dead game" a reality :'(


Not really..Sc2 is very popular at the moment (I believe at its peak) in Korea.

It's outside of Korea where the lack of popularity/tournaments is the issue.


it's indeed on the rise and doing quite well in Korea but a huge betting scandal could just destroy every effort done so far.
I might have failed to exprim myself properly the first time :'(
Zest fanboy.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 07 2015 11:13 GMT
#455
On May 07 2015 20:12 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 20:10 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:08 sAsImre wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I don't see anything in the articles about which matches they are referring to.. I imagine it must be the Code A match against Creator..


it's the one with pinnacle suspending the bet yeah, could've been something else.
It's good to see some action taken but I really hope it doesn't make "dead game" a reality :'(


Not really..Sc2 is very popular at the moment (I believe at its peak) in Korea.

It's outside of Korea where the lack of popularity/tournaments is the issue.


it's indeed on the rise and doing quite well in Korea but a huge betting scandal could just destroy every effort done so far.
I might have failed to exprim myself properly the first time :'(


Yes this is a very serious issue. I kind of hope KeSPA drops the iron fist on this issue; With a lot of players rejoining and participating in proleague I think this may be the case.

KeSPA has made a lot of strides lately and I do hope they sort this (very serious) issue out. I think they will.
olimoley
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States742 Posts
May 07 2015 11:17 GMT
#456
On May 07 2015 20:13 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 20:12 sAsImre wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:10 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:08 sAsImre wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I don't see anything in the articles about which matches they are referring to.. I imagine it must be the Code A match against Creator..


it's the one with pinnacle suspending the bet yeah, could've been something else.
It's good to see some action taken but I really hope it doesn't make "dead game" a reality :'(


Not really..Sc2 is very popular at the moment (I believe at its peak) in Korea.

It's outside of Korea where the lack of popularity/tournaments is the issue.


it's indeed on the rise and doing quite well in Korea but a huge betting scandal could just destroy every effort done so far.
I might have failed to exprim myself properly the first time :'(


Yes this is a very serious issue. I kind of hope KeSPA drops the iron fist on this issue; With a lot of players rejoining and participating in proleague I think this may be the case.

KeSPA has made a lot of strides lately and I do hope they sort this (very serious) issue out. I think they will.

I think they won't for that exact reason. I think they made efforts to solve the situation quietly, but nothing substantial. Here's to hoping though!
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 07 2015 11:20 GMT
#457
On May 07 2015 20:17 olimoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 20:13 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:12 sAsImre wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:10 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:08 sAsImre wrote:
On May 07 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I don't see anything in the articles about which matches they are referring to.. I imagine it must be the Code A match against Creator..


it's the one with pinnacle suspending the bet yeah, could've been something else.
It's good to see some action taken but I really hope it doesn't make "dead game" a reality :'(


Not really..Sc2 is very popular at the moment (I believe at its peak) in Korea.

It's outside of Korea where the lack of popularity/tournaments is the issue.


it's indeed on the rise and doing quite well in Korea but a huge betting scandal could just destroy every effort done so far.
I might have failed to exprim myself properly the first time :'(


Yes this is a very serious issue. I kind of hope KeSPA drops the iron fist on this issue; With a lot of players rejoining and participating in proleague I think this may be the case.

KeSPA has made a lot of strides lately and I do hope they sort this (very serious) issue out. I think they will.

I think they won't for that exact reason. I think they made efforts to solve the situation quietly, but nothing substantial. Here's to hoping though!


In that past there has been justifiable skepticism (more than justifiable. KeSPA jail is a an awful place to reside) but In this case I think their strides may show in dealing with this sort of thing..
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
May 07 2015 11:24 GMT
#458
They've been taking the subject very seriously but they've been hesitant to make a statement. As you can imagine, ongoing investigations usually don't receive announcements because it can have an effect on the investigation.

However, KeSPA have been doing something, and they aren't keeping silent because they are just wishing it away. They are waiting for the right time to make an announcement.

I suppose this is as good a time as any to say that KeSPA have been very cooperative with me about answering questions about the situation. However, this new development means that they'd like to wait until they get more info on this new matter so that any such announcement can be up to date. You will all hear from KeSPA soon.
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 07 2015 11:26 GMT
#459
On May 07 2015 20:24 lichter wrote:
They've been taking the subject very seriously but they've been hesitant to make a statement. As you can imagine, ongoing investigations usually don't receive announcements because it can have an effect on the investigation.

However, KeSPA have been doing something, and they aren't keeping silent because they are just wishing it away. They are waiting for the right time to make an announcement.

I suppose this is as good a time as any to say that KeSPA have been very cooperative with me about answering questions about the situation. However, this new development means that they'd like to wait until they get more info on this new matter so that any such announcement can be up to date. You will all hear from KeSPA soon.


thanks for the update litcher you still need votes I suppose :D ?
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
May 07 2015 11:33 GMT
#460
On May 07 2015 20:26 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 20:24 lichter wrote:
They've been taking the subject very seriously but they've been hesitant to make a statement. As you can imagine, ongoing investigations usually don't receive announcements because it can have an effect on the investigation.

However, KeSPA have been doing something, and they aren't keeping silent because they are just wishing it away. They are waiting for the right time to make an announcement.

I suppose this is as good a time as any to say that KeSPA have been very cooperative with me about answering questions about the situation. However, this new development means that they'd like to wait until they get more info on this new matter so that any such announcement can be up to date. You will all hear from KeSPA soon.


thanks for the update litcher you still need votes I suppose :D ?


savings esports is my job, i dont pander for votes :p
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