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Copa América 2015 joins the WCS system

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DARKING
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Mexico675 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-03 00:07:20
April 03 2015 00:01 GMT
#1
Original Enlgish annoucement: http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/wcs-and-copa-america-joining-forces-for-ultimate-latin-american-league

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Copa América 2015 has been oficially announced, and in a similar way to the Chinese GPL, Copa América will feed directly into the WCS system.

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There will be 3 seasons this year, followed by an offline Grand Finals. Each season will consist of 16 players, all from Latin America only (no more US and Canada like last year). Round of 16 is a group stage, followed by an 8 player single elimination bracket where the top2 will join the 2 previous WCS Premier latin american players to make the new WCS Challenger. The 4 players will then play a single elimination bracket for the two Premier League seeds and the title of Copa América champion!

StarCraft II Copa América and WCS Challenger Combined Prize Pool

1st place: 4,800$, 100 WCS points (premier seed) and 15 Copa América points.
2nd place: 4,600$, 100 WCS points (premier seed) and 12 Copa América points.
3rd place: 2,100$, 50 WCS points, 10 CA points
4th place: 2,000$, 50 WCS points, 8 CA points
5-8th: 7 CA points
9-12th: 6 CA points
13-16th: 5 CA points

StarCraft II Copa América Grand Finals Prize Pool

1st $3,500
2nd $2,000
3rd $1,500
4th $1,000
5th $500
6th $500
7th $500
8th $500
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LiquipediaMexican Liquipedia staff and Terran player. I tweet things @DARKING665.
Lucrania
Profile Joined December 2012
United States44 Posts
April 03 2015 00:03 GMT
#2
Now major has a chance in WCS.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10128 Posts
April 03 2015 00:14 GMT
#3
good news
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Legio
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden235 Posts
April 03 2015 00:22 GMT
#4
BasetradeTV has cast every season so far I think. Would be classy by Copa America if they kept them on as main casters for the show.
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
April 03 2015 00:26 GMT
#5
On April 03 2015 09:22 Legio wrote:
BasetradeTV has cast every season so far I think. Would be classy by Copa America if they kept them on as main casters for the show.

They should probably be just the main English casters, considering that the audience will be largely Spanish and Portuguese.

I hope that Copa America 2016 gives a similar level of WCS points as a tier 1 WCS event.
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DARKING
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Mexico675 Posts
April 03 2015 00:28 GMT
#6
On April 03 2015 09:26 Pontius Pirate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2015 09:22 Legio wrote:
BasetradeTV has cast every season so far I think. Would be classy by Copa America if they kept them on as main casters for the show.

They should probably be just the main English casters, considering that the audience will be largely Spanish and Portuguese.

I hope that Copa America 2016 gives a similar level of WCS points as a tier 1 WCS event.

That's pretty hard, because part of the things needed for being a WCS event to be open to everyone, and Copa América has always been a pretty regionalized tournament.
LiquipediaMexican Liquipedia staff and Terran player. I tweet things @DARKING665.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
April 03 2015 01:04 GMT
#7
Yay for Copa America! The LatAm scene has always needed some love, and this is a good start.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
April 03 2015 01:07 GMT
#8
gg
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ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
April 03 2015 01:13 GMT
#9
On April 03 2015 09:26 Pontius Pirate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2015 09:22 Legio wrote:
BasetradeTV has cast every season so far I think. Would be classy by Copa America if they kept them on as main casters for the show.

They should probably be just the main English casters, considering that the audience will be largely Spanish and Portuguese.

I hope that Copa America 2016 gives a similar level of WCS points as a tier 1 WCS event.


Totally unrealistic goal. A T1 Global event needs US$ 75k prize pool and there was not nearly enough audience last year to justify the investment. Even the 25000 for a T2 would be crazy IMO.
The other race is OP
Ja.Y.
Profile Joined February 2015
United States253 Posts
April 03 2015 01:55 GMT
#10
Major winning every season? Lol

But cool to see this happening! Glad to see Latin and South America getting love. Maybe this will be the return of Fenix, who was on IM, technically, for a while before his hiatus
MMA will reign supreme once again // MaSa is gawd
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
April 03 2015 02:09 GMT
#11
Meh, Major is not that good.

Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
April 03 2015 02:31 GMT
#12
On April 03 2015 11:09 Apoteosis wrote:
Meh, Major is not that good.


I lol'd...

I agree, but why is this a worthwhile statement? Especially in a topic such as this one? MajOr is not one of the best players in the world, but he still went undefeated in all of Copa America 2013 and all of Copa America 2014. Being a random guy from Chile dissing MajOr in a Copa America topic is questionable.

Anyways, this is awesome news. I've been waiting for Copa America to be added to the WCS system. Very happy now.
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Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
April 03 2015 03:13 GMT
#13
Um, will these wrap up in time for Blizzcon? The rest are starting their second season.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Ja.Y.
Profile Joined February 2015
United States253 Posts
April 03 2015 05:07 GMT
#14
On April 03 2015 11:09 Apoteosis wrote:
Meh, Major is not that good.



I really don't know of any Latin or South American player who actually puts up results and has a somewhat name for himself other than Major. He fluctuates in his results and sometimes is a damn good Terran and other times, people wonder wtf he's doing, but there's no denying his ability at SC2.

MMA will reign supreme once again // MaSa is gawd
klipik12
Profile Joined March 2012
United States241 Posts
April 03 2015 07:24 GMT
#15
This, like GPL becoming WCS China, was one of those "why was it not like this from the beginning?" moments.
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
April 03 2015 07:36 GMT
#16
On April 03 2015 16:24 klipik12 wrote:
This, like GPL becoming WCS China, was one of those "why was it not like this from the beginning?" moments.


They may be a few years late, but at least they are hurrying up.

I think this is good news. I hope this kind of structure, with regional qualifiers, becomes more pronounced in the future too. What I don't get is that KR has two parallel tournaments to the WCS, but that is a different story.
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hescar
Profile Joined November 2011
Venezuela2 Posts
April 03 2015 07:48 GMT
#17
On April 03 2015 14:07 Ja.Y. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2015 11:09 Apoteosis wrote:
Meh, Major is not that good.



I really don't know of any Latin or South American player who actually puts up results and has a somewhat name for himself other than Major. He fluctuates in his results and sometimes is a damn good Terran and other times, people wonder wtf he's doing, but there's no denying his ability at SC2.



You dont see latin americans pullin results because there's little support for tournaments or from sponsors, so its great that blizzard is doing this. Plus there is a lot more to consider since buying the game is a lot of money for a latin american when you get like 200$ a month with a full job. For example in my country minimun pay for a month worth of work is equivalent to 25$ (lets say u work at a fast food place or what ever) so its HARD to pay a 40$ game for most of us even more if you are young you just cant afford that. And if you buy the game u have to deal with latensy and stuff so yeah its hard and if you see a latin guy in WCS is something. I think it was on Wings of Liberty that a chilean guy name Killer got to round of 8 of blizzcon, thats the most. So kuddos to blizzard for helping the latin scene. Peru has like a big scene in LoL, Venezuela tents to grow super fast back in WCG days I remember how good it was until LG stop sponsor for WCG so this is most needed
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 03 2015 08:51 GMT
#18
So like, yet another region that gets an easier pass into Premier?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
DARKING
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Mexico675 Posts
April 03 2015 09:09 GMT
#19
On April 03 2015 17:51 Ej_ wrote:
So like, yet another region that gets an easier pass into Premier?

Nothing is changing from last season except they're doing a full fledge tournament instead of just running qualifiers. Latin America still only get two spots for WCS Premier.
LiquipediaMexican Liquipedia staff and Terran player. I tweet things @DARKING665.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 03 2015 10:07 GMT
#20
On April 03 2015 09:26 Pontius Pirate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2015 09:22 Legio wrote:
BasetradeTV has cast every season so far I think. Would be classy by Copa America if they kept them on as main casters for the show.

They should probably be just the main English casters, considering that the audience will be largely Spanish and Portuguese.

I hope that Copa America 2016 gives a similar level of WCS points as a tier 1 WCS event.

Why would you want an event featuring the best players of a region that is by far not the best at SC2, to give the same amount of WCS points as an event which features 16 top Koreans? Oo
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 03 2015 10:12 GMT
#21
On April 03 2015 18:09 DARKING wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2015 17:51 Ej_ wrote:
So like, yet another region that gets an easier pass into Premier?

Nothing is changing from last season except they're doing a full fledge tournament instead of just running qualifiers. Latin America still only get two spots for WCS Premier.

oh ok, thank you
still don't like how most (all?) of the regional qualifiers seed into premier and not challenger
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
sceroh
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium182 Posts
April 03 2015 10:48 GMT
#22
1st place: 4,800$, 100 WCS points (premier seed) and 15 Copa América points.
2nd place: 4,600$, 100 WCS points (premier seed) and 12 Copa América points.
3rd place: 2,100$, 50 WCS points, 10 CA points
4th place: 2,000$, 50 WCS points, 8 CA points

I am not sure whether i like the prizepool distribution or not.
3rd/4th seems ok, but I feel like there should be a greater difference between 1st and 2nd. But al least it will be less stressful for the players, I guess.
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
April 03 2015 12:27 GMT
#23
On April 03 2015 11:31 Shinta) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2015 11:09 Apoteosis wrote:
Meh, Major is not that good.


I lol'd...

I agree, but why is this a worthwhile statement? Especially in a topic such as this one? MajOr is not one of the best players in the world, but he still went undefeated in all of Copa America 2013 and all of Copa America 2014. Being a random guy from Chile dissing MajOr in a Copa America topic is questionable.

Anyways, this is awesome news. I've been waiting for Copa America to be added to the WCS system. Very happy now.


I know the LA scene since 2010 and I can tell you, back in the day there were far more better players than Major (KilleR, Fenix, Potiguar, etc). For the majority of WoL, Major was known in the scene as a bad-mannered fat guy who threw shit to the scene like a wind fan.

Now that Fenix and Killer have retired, Major took the spot as the best LA player. But if we look at results, for a guy who went to Korea to train, his training regime hasn't paid off.

Now, Kelazhur is better than Major, imo.

On April 03 2015 14:07 Ja.Y. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2015 11:09 Apoteosis wrote:
Meh, Major is not that good.



I really don't know of any Latin or South American player who actually puts up results and has a somewhat name for himself other than Major. He fluctuates in his results and sometimes is a damn good Terran and other times, people wonder wtf he's doing, but there's no denying his ability at SC2.



Chilean Zerg Killer has far more better results at premiere tournaments than Major, and that is a shame, since Killer was a half-time progamer and Major even went to Korea to train on a Kespa team.

Major's premiere results: RO16 WCS AM
Killer's premiere results: RO8 WCS Global Finals 2012, RO4 IEM New York (the one who won DRG).
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