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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 20:33:10
February 28 2015 20:32 GMT
#221
On March 01 2015 05:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 04:50 GreenMash wrote:
trap 2points lolololol

Main Team
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong (captain)
4 (T)Dream
9 (T)INnoVation
3 (T)KeeN
7 (P)sOs
2 (P)Trap
4 CJ Entus

Anti Team
5 (P)Classic
4 (P)Hush
4 (T)sKyHigh

My anti team is this because those players doesnt play week 1. B4 because i needed a zerg and his name is awesome

IMO classic/hush/skyhigh is the anti to have for week one

I totally disagree, skyhigh and hush can play the week after and any of them could take matches, Classic is likely to get to play, could easily take games and will likely get a lot of points just from his team winning.


Blargh, nice of you to share your spreadsheet, I would be very careful in putting too much faith in it. How many points players get is very dependant on which players they meet and even whch race they are matched against. Imagine Yoda (Who got quite a bit of points, mainly from TvT) not getting a single TvT this season. Tons of things effect how well a player will perform, I feel that getting players based on their relative level overall is a good bet. Dear for example, I'm convinced he will do a lot better this season compared to last season.

FPL is all about being able to predict which players wil outdo their score last season and which players will slump. Spreadsheets is obviously helpful but if you follow that you will never suck but will also never win.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 28 2015 20:34 GMT
#222
I should also add that I have 0 faith in classic and skyhigh
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 20:51:47
February 28 2015 20:45 GMT
#223
On March 01 2015 05:32 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 05:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 01 2015 04:50 GreenMash wrote:
trap 2points lolololol

Main Team
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong (captain)
4 (T)Dream
9 (T)INnoVation
3 (T)KeeN
7 (P)sOs
2 (P)Trap
4 CJ Entus

Anti Team
5 (P)Classic
4 (P)Hush
4 (T)sKyHigh

My anti team is this because those players doesnt play week 1. B4 because i needed a zerg and his name is awesome

IMO classic/hush/skyhigh is the anti to have for week one

I totally disagree, skyhigh and hush can play the week after and any of them could take matches, Classic is likely to get to play, could easily take games and will likely get a lot of points just from his team winning.


Blargh, nice of you to share your spreadsheet, I would be very careful in putting too much faith in it. How many points players get is very dependant on which players they meet and even whch race they are matched against. Imagine Yoda (Who got quite a bit of points, mainly from TvT) not getting a single TvT this season. Tons of things effect how well a player will perform, I feel that getting players based on their relative level overall is a good bet. Dear for example, I'm convinced he will do a lot better this season compared to last season.

FPL is all about being able to predict which players wil outdo their score last season and which players will slump. Spreadsheets is obviously helpful but if you follow that you will never suck but will also never win.

But of course. After all, I picked Dark and Rogue last round, and they had no significant PL results prior to that. I usually use Aligulac match histories to support my decisions, in addition to whatever knowledge I already know from seeing players' games. I imagine Innovation will get more points this season, and Dark will get maybe a little bit less. This is mainly because I see Innovation being the main ace this time around (he never played one last time!). I have soO on my current team just because I think he has recovered from his past slump, and I think he will be played a lot more, even though he didn't do super great last time.

But players like Trap and Dream are totally under-priced, and the spreadsheet even shows that. Trap looks great right now, and he's clearly good enough for JAGW to play him instead of Cure. JAGW is choosing to play a 2-point player instead of a 7-point player!! The guy is a steal. [Edit]: It looks like in addition to wrecking everyone in the IEM Championship qualifier, he did very well in the Kung Fu Cup KR Qualifier! I can see Trap being one of JAGW's main players this round.
Dream is less of a steal, but still a great pickup. His opening match is unfortunately the 4th one, meaning SKT will have to manage to lose a game for him to play that week, but Dream is still one of the best Terrans in the world right now (I'd say top 5). A top 5 Terran for 4 points??? That's a pretty damn good pick.

Of course, in both cases, it is likely that they will not be playing every single week, meaning they will need to be traded in-and-out, lowering their initial value a bit.
grogburg
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
United States329 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 21:00:02
February 28 2015 20:59 GMT
#224
I like the Hush/Skyhigh combo in anti because it seems unlikely that they'll ever both be fielded in the same week. Therefore, one of them can always be traded off anti and later traded back in.

Cure was tempting for the anti but I just remember the San Surprise from round 1, week 1. Even though Samsung probably won't take Jin Air to the ace match, and even if they did Maru or Rogue would probably be the JAGW ace, the thought of those -5 points on day one was too spooky.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 28 2015 21:33 GMT
#225
On March 01 2015 04:47 TT1 wrote:
Dream is good value for 4 pts but its very unlikely that he'll get to play in w1 :l


What are your thoughts on Solar n Flash at 6?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 21:33:55
February 28 2015 21:33 GMT
#226
On March 01 2015 05:45 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 05:32 Shuffleblade wrote:
On March 01 2015 05:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 01 2015 04:50 GreenMash wrote:
trap 2points lolololol

Main Team
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong (captain)
4 (T)Dream
9 (T)INnoVation
3 (T)KeeN
7 (P)sOs
2 (P)Trap
4 CJ Entus

Anti Team
5 (P)Classic
4 (P)Hush
4 (T)sKyHigh

My anti team is this because those players doesnt play week 1. B4 because i needed a zerg and his name is awesome

IMO classic/hush/skyhigh is the anti to have for week one

I totally disagree, skyhigh and hush can play the week after and any of them could take matches, Classic is likely to get to play, could easily take games and will likely get a lot of points just from his team winning.


Blargh, nice of you to share your spreadsheet, I would be very careful in putting too much faith in it. How many points players get is very dependant on which players they meet and even whch race they are matched against. Imagine Yoda (Who got quite a bit of points, mainly from TvT) not getting a single TvT this season. Tons of things effect how well a player will perform, I feel that getting players based on their relative level overall is a good bet. Dear for example, I'm convinced he will do a lot better this season compared to last season.

FPL is all about being able to predict which players wil outdo their score last season and which players will slump. Spreadsheets is obviously helpful but if you follow that you will never suck but will also never win.

But of course. After all, I picked Dark and Rogue last round, and they had no significant PL results prior to that. I usually use Aligulac match histories to support my decisions, in addition to whatever knowledge I already know from seeing players' games. I imagine Innovation will get more points this season, and Dark will get maybe a little bit less. This is mainly because I see Innovation being the main ace this time around (he never played one last time!). I have soO on my current team just because I think he has recovered from his past slump, and I think he will be played a lot more, even though he didn't do super great last time.

But players like Trap and Dream are totally under-priced, and the spreadsheet even shows that. Trap looks great right now, and he's clearly good enough for JAGW to play him instead of Cure. JAGW is choosing to play a 2-point player instead of a 7-point player!! The guy is a steal. [Edit]: It looks like in addition to wrecking everyone in the IEM Championship qualifier, he did very well in the Kung Fu Cup KR Qualifier! I can see Trap being one of JAGW's main players this round.
Dream is less of a steal, but still a great pickup. His opening match is unfortunately the 4th one, meaning SKT will have to manage to lose a game for him to play that week, but Dream is still one of the best Terrans in the world right now (I'd say top 5). A top 5 Terran for 4 points??? That's a pretty damn good pick.

Of course, in both cases, it is likely that they will not be playing every single week, meaning they will need to be traded in-and-out, lowering their initial value a bit.

I agree on almost all points, I think it unlikely Trap will be played over Cure but I suppose its possible if Cure has fallen off hard. Care used to be really really good just a month ago, I agree with soO I think he will also beast it up again. I am a bit afraid of picking him though because I think he is still a bit brittle, if he gets a bad start I'm afraid he won't get his mojo back. soO is a little bit of a gamble in my opinion, Innovation I think will underperform compared to last season and Dark will perform about the same. Dream I definitely agree with you on, the only worry is if he will get play time seeing as they already have Inno.

Going to be fun to see how it goes =)
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 21:46:01
February 28 2015 21:34 GMT
#227
On March 01 2015 06:33 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 04:47 TT1 wrote:
Dream is good value for 4 pts but its very unlikely that he'll get to play in w1 :l


What are your thoughts on Solar n Flash at 6?


Solar+Flash = 1-12? #yoloswag

Main Team
6 (T)Flash
7 (P)herO (captain)
6 (Z)Solar
5 (Z)soO
2 (P)Sora
2 (P)Trap
2 Samsung Galaxy

Anti Team
7 (T)Cure
3 (Z)DeParture
3 (T)Salvation

my original team had Rogue instead of Solar (always been a huge Rogue fan and he has an easier w1 opponent on paper) but i have a feeling that Solar is gonna bounce back this round
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iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
February 28 2015 22:06 GMT
#228
yolonolife

Main Team
7 (Z)ByuL (captain)
4 (T)Dream
7 (Z)Losira
6 (Z)Rogue
2 (P)Sora
2 (P)Trap
2 MVP

Anti Team
7 (T)Cure
3 (Z)DeParture
3 (T)Salvation

meh ill improve it when i get home
$O$ | soO
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 28 2015 22:48 GMT
#229
On March 01 2015 06:34 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 06:33 Skynx wrote:
On March 01 2015 04:47 TT1 wrote:
Dream is good value for 4 pts but its very unlikely that he'll get to play in w1 :l


What are your thoughts on Solar n Flash at 6?


Solar+Flash = 1-12? #yoloswag

Main Team
6 (T)Flash
7 (P)herO (captain)
6 (Z)Solar
5 (Z)soO
2 (P)Sora
2 (P)Trap
2 Samsung Galaxy

Anti Team
7 (T)Cure
3 (Z)DeParture
3 (T)Salvation

my original team had Rogue instead of Solar (always been a huge Rogue fan and he has an easier w1 opponent on paper) but i have a feeling that Solar is gonna bounce back this round


Yea exactly my thoughts, we very nearly have a mirror team
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 28 2015 22:50 GMT
#230
On March 01 2015 07:48 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 06:34 TT1 wrote:
On March 01 2015 06:33 Skynx wrote:
On March 01 2015 04:47 TT1 wrote:
Dream is good value for 4 pts but its very unlikely that he'll get to play in w1 :l


What are your thoughts on Solar n Flash at 6?


Solar+Flash = 1-12? #yoloswag

Main Team
6 (T)Flash
7 (P)herO (captain)
6 (Z)Solar
5 (Z)soO
2 (P)Sora
2 (P)Trap
2 Samsung Galaxy

Anti Team
7 (T)Cure
3 (Z)DeParture
3 (T)Salvation

my original team had Rogue instead of Solar (always been a huge Rogue fan and he has an easier w1 opponent on paper) but i have a feeling that Solar is gonna bounce back this round


Yea exactly my thoughts, we very nearly have a mirror team

The team you posted has two of the same players
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 28 2015 23:28 GMT
#231
On March 01 2015 07:50 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 07:48 Skynx wrote:
On March 01 2015 06:34 TT1 wrote:
On March 01 2015 06:33 Skynx wrote:
On March 01 2015 04:47 TT1 wrote:
Dream is good value for 4 pts but its very unlikely that he'll get to play in w1 :l


What are your thoughts on Solar n Flash at 6?


Solar+Flash = 1-12? #yoloswag

Main Team
6 (T)Flash
7 (P)herO (captain)
6 (Z)Solar
5 (Z)soO
2 (P)Sora
2 (P)Trap
2 Samsung Galaxy

Anti Team
7 (T)Cure
3 (Z)DeParture
3 (T)Salvation

my original team had Rogue instead of Solar (always been a huge Rogue fan and he has an easier w1 opponent on paper) but i have a feeling that Solar is gonna bounce back this round


Yea exactly my thoughts, we very nearly have a mirror team

The team you posted has two of the same players

Yeah didn't bother to edit it since I changed my team like 523492 times today

DYNAMO PUTIN FC

Main Team
6 (P)Dear (captain)
6 (T)Flash
3 (Z)Shine
6 (Z)Solar
5 (Z)soO
2 (P)Trap
2 Samsung Galaxy

Anti Team
7 (Z)Losira
3 (Z)Pet
3 (T)Salvation

still trying to decide between Shine/alive and Dear/Solar/Flash/Rogue/Stats
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 23:45:04
February 28 2015 23:44 GMT
#232
trap for 2 why? what? why?

did you only put him at 2, so you could put him on your team better? this makes no sense to me, as he is playing in week 1 against an opponent that he can beat. any team that doesn't have him is probably a wrong team.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-01 00:19:09
March 01 2015 00:12 GMT
#233
heres my team:

harhar's hard hounds

Main Team
4 - [image loading] Dream
6 - [image loading] Flash (captain)
6 - [image loading] Solar
5 - [image loading] soO
2 - [image loading] Sora
2 - [image loading] Trap
5 - Team KT Rolster

Anti Team
3 - [image loading] Bomber
7 - [image loading] Cure
3 - [image loading] Salvation


i was #31 in the last season, let's see how well the double gambit of flash and solar works out. i think either i will be at the very top or not at the top at all, lol. it all depends on whether flash and solar get their shit together and score massive pointz.

dream and trap are obvious value picks, sora is a small gamble, but he plays in week1. soo is just overall solid for 5. none of my anti picks are playing week 1. bomber will probably play mostly never and salvation is not dangerous. cure i might have to switch out but he is a little overrated at 7 anyways.

@TT1: hahaha our teams are always so similar. i also thought about hero and i think that samsung is a good choice for the team as well.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
nick00bot
Profile Joined November 2010
326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-01 00:23:00
March 01 2015 00:19 GMT
#234
After Much editing, found a team of passion, bargain bins, and Maru. Dream and trap give you so much room to work with

Wet_Dreamers

Main Team
4 (T)Dream
3 (P)HerO
8 (T)Maru (captain)
6 (Z)Solar
5 (Z)soO
2 (P)Trap
2 MVP

Anti Team
3 (T)aLive
7 (P)Creator
3 (T)KeeN


Edit: Is it good to have antis that you think will be fielded and lose? is that better than not being fielded at all?
SoO~Speed~Serral~$o$~Dark~Myungsik~TY~Byun~Classic
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 01 2015 00:25 GMT
#235
Golden/White outfit

Main Team
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong
2 (T)Bunny
1 (T)Center (captain)
7 (P)Creator
7 (P)herO
9 (T)INnoVation
2 Samsung Galaxy

Anti Team
1 (Z)Ian
5 (T)YoDa
7 (P)Yonghwa
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
March 01 2015 00:38 GMT
#236
#JeSuisAeromi

Main Team
2 (P)Billowy (captain)
Billowy's cheap and SKT. I hope he will just sit there and earn me passive points.

4 (T)Dream
Dream is a steal at 4 points. He will win games and is a SKT player.

6 (T)Flash
I don't think Flash's slump will continue. PL is his arena and he will train for the upcoming IEM too. I rely on Flash's experience and legacy a lot.

6 (Z)Rogue
Rogue will play much, and is on an upwards trajectory with double ro8's.

5 (Z)soO
This is an uncertain pick for me. soO haven't played too much for SKT, and his form seems so-and-so. On the other hand he plays for SKT, and i have a lot of faith in SKT...

2 (P)Trap
Trap is the best pick available for 1-2- points.

5 Jin Air Green Wings
This is my honorary way of picking Maru and sOs.


Anti Team
3 (T)Bomber
4 (P)Hush
6 (T)MarineKing

Bomber won't play, Hush will lose when he plays and MarineKing is terrible.
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
feanaro
Profile Joined March 2014
United States123 Posts
March 01 2015 00:39 GMT
#237
Second try at FPL. Picking INnoVation as a captain worked out pretty good last time - maybe this time he'll get an ace appearance?

SKT B2ST KT

Main Team
4 (T)Dream
9 (T)INnoVation (captain)
3 (Z)Shine
5 (Z)soO
2 (P)Sora
2 (P)Trap
5 Jin Air Green Wings

Anti Team
7 (P)Creator
5 (T)YoDa
1 (P)Zoun

I admire Prime for the fight they put up at the end of last round but . . . sorry. They're playing SKT. I do not believe.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
March 01 2015 01:04 GMT
#238
i don't get why anybody is picking JAG or SKT over KT. with life they are clearly now the strongest team in proleague.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
March 01 2015 01:23 GMT
#239
On February 28 2015 19:35 showstealer1829 wrote:
Bronze League Heroes

Main Team
3 (T)aLive
2 (T)Guilty (captain)
9 (T)INnoVation
3 (T)KeeN
5 (Z)soO
2 (P)Sora
6 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
6 (T)Flash
5 (P)San
2 (T)TaeJa

#GuiltyIsBasedGod


Take 2

Bronze League Heroes

Main Team
3 (T)aLive
2 (T)Guilty (captain)
9 (T)INnoVation
3 (T)KeeN
5 (Z)soO
2 (P)Trap
5 KT Rolster

Anti Team
6 (T)Flash
5 (P)San
2 (T)TaeJa

#GuiltyIsStillBasedGod
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 01 2015 01:24 GMT
#240
On March 01 2015 10:23 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 19:35 showstealer1829 wrote:
Bronze League Heroes

Main Team
3 (T)aLive
2 (T)Guilty (captain)
9 (T)INnoVation
3 (T)KeeN
5 (Z)soO
2 (P)Sora
6 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
6 (T)Flash
5 (P)San
2 (T)TaeJa

#GuiltyIsBasedGod


Take 2

Bronze League Heroes

+ Show Spoiler +
Main Team
3 (T)aLive
2 (T)Guilty (captain)
9 (T)INnoVation
3 (T)KeeN
5 (Z)soO
2 (P)Trap
5 KT Rolster

Anti Team
6 (T)Flash
5 (P)San
2 (T)TaeJa

#GuiltyIsStillBasedGod


Approve of the Guilty captain choice, although he may never play again. Rest of the team seems pretty solid, but that anti-team scares me a bit.
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