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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 17:59:10
February 28 2015 17:57 GMT
#201
Here's my team!
Oh Blargh, Please.

Main Team
4 (T)Dream
2 (T)DynaMite
9 (T)INnoVation (captain)
6 (Z)Rogue
5 (Z)soO
2 (P)Trap
2 Samsung Galaxy

Anti Team
5 (P)Classic
4 (P)Hush
4 (T)sKyHigh

On March 01 2015 00:24 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 23:22 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 28 2015 23:16 dazed25 wrote:
Seems like Trap, Dream, and Stats are the popular value picks in this thread :O

Well they're all very decently priced and are very solid players who will probably be >50% WR, so it doesn't surprise me much. I'm much more surprised by so few people picking Solar and/or Flash.

Trap is pretty much a mandatory pick, especially for a week 1. He's 2 points, which is the lowest price for players on SKT/JAGW/KT, he's playing week 1 against someone he can beat, and he actually looks amazing right now (see IEM qualifier). I would have picked Trap if he was 4, even. Anyone who doesn't have Trap on their team is doing something wrong!

Dream is also a nice pick, but he's not the greatest week 1 pick... While I think he's absolutely favored against Keen, I doubt he'll actually be playing. So, he only gets 2 points this week instead. But, because he's likely to be playing in the future matches, and he's still very cheap (4), I think it's still a good idea to get him now. His price is likely to just go up...

My explanation of how amazing Trap and Dream are is above.
Rogue I think will be a solid pick over time, even if he doesn't get to play this week (due to a 3-0). While he doesn't seem as good as he was, I still believe in him! The other potential pick was Stats, or maybe Solar, but meh. I like Rogue more.
Innovation is overpriced, but he got 27 last season, and if you look at the number of points players earned last season, and how much they cost this season, Innovation's points/cost is 3.0 (27/9). This is actually the highest ratio of points per cost. But I also think Innovation will be used as an ace more this season. And I'm an Innovation fanboy, so I must pick him :D
soO I believe has recovered and will now dominate everything. Or something like that. He looked like a solid pick, so I went with him. Plus I think he has a good chance at winning this week.
Dynamite is just the cheap throw-away player who should earn at least 4-5 points or whatever. Thought about picking Sora, though! Not that he has a chance in hell to win against Stats, or even of playing (KT might 3-0!)
Picked Samsung for team just because they seem like the strongest of the 2-point teams. Since the top 4 are so even, I think the points for the top 4 teams will be a bit lower. Maybe it'd be better to go KT Rolster for 5, but I dunno where I'd find the 3 points needed to switch. CJ might be okay, as well. Who knows.

The 3 Anti's are pretty much just the 3 highest players who aren't playing the opening week. I might need to switch Classic. Dunno yet.

I might do little trading this round due to laziness. But my team is pretty well-rounded and doesn't need too much trading. Hopefully soO/Rogue/Dream will not have absent weeks!
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
February 28 2015 18:07 GMT
#202
On February 28 2015 03:42 AbuntuGuntu wrote:
[Insert Name Here]

Main Team
4 (T)Dream
6 (T)Flash
9 (Z)Life (captain)
5 (Z)soO
2 (P)Sora
2 (P)Trap
2 MVP

Anti Team
5 (Z)Curious
4 (P)Hush
4 (T)sKyHigh

Will probably roll with this for now, was most uncertain about who to choose for the 5 point anti.


[Insert Name Here]

Main Team
4 (T)Dream
6 (T)Flash
9 (Z)Life (captain)
5 (Z)soO
2 (P)Sora
2 (P)Trap
2 MVP

Anti Team
5 (P)Classic
4 (P)Hush
4 (T)sKyHigh

Decided to swap Curious for Classic
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 28 2015 18:10 GMT
#203
On March 01 2015 02:32 hoop1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 05:33 hoop1 wrote:
hoop's harem

Main Team
7 (Z)ByuL
8 (Z)Dark
1 (P)Has
6 (Z)Rogue
1 (T)Vanilla (captain)
5 (T)YoDa
2 [tlpd#teams##hots]StarTale + YFW[/tlpd]

Anti Team
3 (P)HerO
4 (T)sKyHigh
6 (Z)Solar

Lets see if Solar underperforms once more!


I have 2 more drafts, IDK which one to use:

#1

+ Show Spoiler +
Main Team
7 (Z)Losira
2 (T)Reality
6 (Z)Rogue
5 (Z)soO
6 (P)Stats
2 (P)Trap (captain)
2 [tlpd#teams##hots]StarTale + YFW[/tlpd]

Anti Team
4 (P)Hush
4 (T)sKyHigh
5 (T)YoDa


#2
+ Show Spoiler +
Main Team
8 - [image loading] Bbyong
8 - [image loading] Dark
4 - [image loading] Dream
1 - [image loading] Has
5 - [image loading] soO
2 - [image loading] Trap (captain)
2 - Team StarTale + YFW

Anti Team
5 - [image loading] MyuNgSiK
4 - [image loading] sKyHigh
4 - [image loading] TY


Those are both good teams. I would go with the second one for a few reasons. Both teams have four value-earning players but Losira's the only one on the first one that is pretty much guaranteed to play in every match (soO/Classic, Stats/TY, Rogue/Cure are likely interchangeable on the lineups), while on the second team Bbyong and Dark are almost certain to play at least six times and you'll probably see at least one of Dream/soO in every match. Additionally, Reality and Has are probably going to get the same number of points (Has might even get more) so you probably shouldn't spend the extra point on Reality.
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KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
February 28 2015 18:13 GMT
#204
Anti Team will ruin me

Main Team
1 (T)Center
2 (T)Hack
9 (T)INnoVation
9 (Z)Life (captain)
2 (P)Sora
2 (P)Trap
5 KT Rolster

Anti Team
5 (P)Classic
4 (P)Hush
4 (T)sKyHigh

I decided to buy into the Innovation hype after he did so well last season. Life though, can't take him off either even when he swaps between wins and losses in Pro League.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
Roadog
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1670 Posts
February 28 2015 18:41 GMT
#205
On February 28 2015 09:30 Roadog wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Team Hindsight (First-time FPL team)

Main Team
9 (T)INnoVation (captain)
7 (P)sOs
5 (Z)soO
4 (T)Dream
2 (T)DynaMite
1 (P)Has
2 StarTale-yoe

Anti Team
6 (T)MarineKing
6 (Z)Solar
1 (P)Stork

I considered having both Flash and MarineKing on my anti but with KT picking up Life I think FPL points are going to rub off on Flash


Okay, buying into the Trap hype now!

Team Hindsight (First-time FPL team)

Main Team
9 (T)INnoVation (captain)
7 (P)sOs
5 (Z)soO
4 (T)Dream
2 (P)Trap
1 (P)Has
2 StarTale-yoe

Anti Team
6 (T)MarineKing
6 (Z)Solar
1 (P)Stork
sOs fan. Zerg just seem to have the most...potential. Dubbo Robo Colo! Why I play Protoss: Stalkers, bacon, toilets and mama -- Chelsea FC
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 28 2015 18:50 GMT
#206
WCS Schedule plz

Main Team
6 (T)Flash
2 (T)Hack
9 (T)INnoVation
3 (T)KeeN
6 (Z)Solar (captain)
2 (P)Trap
2 Samsung Galaxy

Anti Team
3 (Z)DeParture
4 (T)Dream
6 (P)Stats


Zest fanboy.
urasyupi2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States810 Posts
February 28 2015 18:52 GMT
#207
Zerantoss

Main Team
3 (T)aLive
2 (P)Billowy
7 (Z)ByuL (captain)
3 (P)Hurricane
5 (Z)soO
6 (P)Stats
4 CJ Entus

Anti Team
7 (T)Cure
4 (T)sKyHigh
2 (T)TaeJa
Hoping that a SKT1 win will raise Billowy's points a bit so I can trade him later, Hurricane can maybe get one off his game this week, the rest IMO are semi-solid, anti-team isn't even playing this week.
hemeh
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 28 2015 18:53 GMT
#208
I had life as my captain last round and he made bank but for 9 points he cuts so much. I'm just really hoping flash pulls himself together and he can be my honorary life
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 18:56:40
February 28 2015 18:55 GMT
#209
On March 01 2015 02:57 Blargh wrote:
if you look at the number of points players earned last season, and how much they cost this season, Innovation's points/cost is 3.0 (27/9). This is actually the highest ratio of points per cost.

Has had a point/cost of 5.0 last time! That's why he's my captain now Though without Life on his team he probably wont get 5 again unless he plays
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TdX
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore290 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 18:56:23
February 28 2015 18:56 GMT
#210
Definitely Last Place

Main Team
6 (T)Flash
7 (P)herO
6 (Z)Rogue
3 (T)Sorry
2 (P)Terminator (captain)
4 (T)TY
2 StarTale + YFW

Anti Team
3 (T)Bomber
6 (T)MarineKing
4 (T)sKyHigh
GGGGGGGGGGG
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
February 28 2015 18:59 GMT
#211
On March 01 2015 03:55 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 02:57 Blargh wrote:
if you look at the number of points players earned last season, and how much they cost this season, Innovation's points/cost is 3.0 (27/9). This is actually the highest ratio of points per cost.

Has had a point/cost of 5.0 last time! That's why he's my captain now Though without Life on his team he probably wont get 5 again unless he plays

Oh yes, I forgot about the STY players. It's actually a good idea to make the low-point players captains because you never plan on trading them. Since they are just there to fill up the last spot for a couple points, and won't ever play, it'd be silly to ever trade them for anyone else.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 28 2015 19:07 GMT
#212
Shuffleblades

Main Team
6 (P)Dear
4 (T)Dream
7 (P)herO (captain)
3 (T)KeeN
6 (Z)Rogue
2 (P)Trap
2 [tlpd#teams##hots]StarTale + YFW[/tlpd]

Anti Team
5 (P)MyuNgSiK
3 (T)Salvation
5 (T)YoDa


I finally remade my team so I'm decently happy with it, I'm still a bit unsure if I should get Sora or Trap, I think Sora has better chance of getting played more if he does well but Trap will probably get more points since his team will probably win more games. Sora has a chance against Stats since its PvP, it is a very slight chance though.

I have such a hard time with anti, all players are pretty good, I went with the players I like the least and salvation we'll see how it goes.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 19:32:44
February 28 2015 19:32 GMT
#213
On February 28 2015 02:43 BisuDagger wrote:

5 KT Rolster



Traitor!
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10067 Posts
February 28 2015 19:47 GMT
#214
Dream is good value for 4 pts but its very unlikely that he'll get to play in w1 :l
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GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
February 28 2015 19:50 GMT
#215
trap 2points lolololol

Main Team
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong (captain)
4 (T)Dream
9 (T)INnoVation
3 (T)KeeN
7 (P)sOs
2 (P)Trap
4 CJ Entus

Anti Team
5 (P)Classic
4 (P)Hush
4 (T)sKyHigh

My anti team is this because those players doesnt play week 1. B4 because i needed a zerg and his name is awesome
I love hellbats
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 28 2015 20:04 GMT
#216
On March 01 2015 04:50 GreenMash wrote:
trap 2points lolololol

Main Team
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong (captain)
4 (T)Dream
9 (T)INnoVation
3 (T)KeeN
7 (P)sOs
2 (P)Trap
4 CJ Entus

Anti Team
5 (P)Classic
4 (P)Hush
4 (T)sKyHigh

My anti team is this because those players doesnt play week 1. B4 because i needed a zerg and his name is awesome

IMO classic/hush/skyhigh is the anti to have for week one
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 28 2015 20:06 GMT
#217
On March 01 2015 05:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 04:50 GreenMash wrote:
trap 2points lolololol

Main Team
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong (captain)
4 (T)Dream
9 (T)INnoVation
3 (T)KeeN
7 (P)sOs
2 (P)Trap
4 CJ Entus

Anti Team
5 (P)Classic
4 (P)Hush
4 (T)sKyHigh

My anti team is this because those players doesnt play week 1. B4 because i needed a zerg and his name is awesome

IMO classic/hush/skyhigh is the anti to have for week one

It's the new Seed/TaeJa/Stork.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 20:21:15
February 28 2015 20:14 GMT
#218
So, one of my ways of calculating value for players is to take their last round PL score, and then divide by their current costs. For example...
Innovation costs 9 this round (again) and he made 27 points last round. He retains his 3.0 Points per cost value (PPC).
Rogue costs 6 this round and he made 18 points last time. Now he has a 3.0 PPC.
Life costs 9 now, and he had only made 23 points. So he only has a 2.6 PPC.

If every player made the same amount of points this round as they did the last round, then it would be sub-optimal to include Life, because he is not as efficient as Innovation (3.0 PCC vs 2.6 PPC).
Obviously, players will not get the exact same points they did last time. I suspect Life might be about the same, however, as he has competition for ace position now (Zest, Stats, Life, even Flash are all perfectly capable Ace players). And then there are players like Solar, who have a NEGATIVE PPC. I think it's safe to say that he will do better this round, and might even be a good pick now. And of course, this is ignoring trading, a major factor in point optimization.

Still, it's helpful for seeing what kind of value a player like Losira will have this season compared to last (his old PPC was 6.67, and using his old points but new cost of 7, it's 2.86!!). If Losira gets the same number of points he did last round, he will be 43% as cost-efficient as before. He still isn't a bad pick, though!

HERE is the spreadsheet I made, if any of you guys would like to see the numbers yourselves. It's currently sorted by PPC, but I recommend just copying the spreadsheet for yourself, so you can sort by whatever you like. I actually just copy-pasted the stats from TL's FPL stats page, and then added the extra column, haha.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 20:19:59
February 28 2015 20:15 GMT
#219
it's almost guaranteed that one of Hush or sKyHigh plays next week though, and they both the potential to win matches. Imo Classic, Bomber and... San? MKP? is better.
Edit : cool spreadsheet Blargh, thanks for it.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 28 2015 20:30 GMT
#220
On March 01 2015 05:15 OtherWorld wrote:
it's almost guaranteed that one of Hush or sKyHigh plays next week though, and they both the potential to win matches. Imo Classic, Bomber and... San? MKP? is better.
Edit : cool spreadsheet Blargh, thanks for it.

That's also good, I like both san and mkp though
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