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[Code S] Ro16 Grp D: A Non-Title Bout - S1 2015 - Page 2

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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 06:17:49
February 27 2015 06:16 GMT
#21
On February 27 2015 14:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 14:29 Yakikorosu wrote:
PartinG is such an underrated player. The guy has been in Code S (or WCS Premier Korea, whatever) every single season for more than THREE YEARS now. That's YEARS. Three years ago when PartinG first appeared in Code S...

Mothership vortex was considered a viable strat in lategame PvZ
oGs still existed
aLive was one of the best Terrans in the world
Life was a total unknown
BL/infestor wasn't only not solved yet it wasn't even a PROBLEM yet
BoxeR and NaDa were in Code S

In SC2 terms it might as well have been decades ago. I think this is as impressive a feat as Mvp's 4 GSL championships or soO's 4 consecutive finals.

PartinG's weakness has always been his mediocre PvZ. Without a Zerg in this group he's going to get out.


I'd agree PartinG is underrated as the current best PvT with pretty good PvP and PvZ (despite what people say he kills most Zergs). I don't think PartinG has ever dipped out of being considered a top-tier Protoss since the night he dazzled with his HT play and owned Jjkaji twice (this was in January of 2012..).

Still, in all-time accomplishments he's nowhere near Mvp. still below soO and would probably rank below most gsl champs and foreign pirate Taeja. There's a pretty big gap between champ and just making the 32 of code S.

iirc PartinG is even currently tied with DRG for the longest code S streak ever.


I agree with most of that but...

DRG's NesTea Award is pretty tainted I think; he didn't make it into 2013 Korea Premier S2 but gets a pass because hyper-technically that was an "OSL" not a "Code S" even though at that point OSL and GSL had been merged into the same league. And you make it sound like PartinG is like Curious who gets into Code S and then immediately loses. I mean look at this:

2012 S1: Ro8
2012 S2: Ro4
2012 S3: Ro32
2012 S4: Ro32
2012 S5: Ro16
2013 S1: Ro8
2013 S2: Ro8
2013 S3: Ro16
2013 S4: Ro8
2014 S1: Ro8
2014 S2: Ro16
2014 S3: Ro16

12 tournaments with only 2 exits in the Ro32 and advances to at least the Ro8 half the time.

And I don't see how you can say he's below soO in accomplishments. PartinG's won WCS, Red Bull NY and HSC. soO doesn't have a single offline tournament victory.
xrayEU
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden571 Posts
February 27 2015 06:17 GMT
#22
On February 27 2015 13:32 banjoetheredskin wrote:
shit that's soon. herO I guess I can try to listen to Twitch mobile like a radio on the way to school

I use https://letr.it/twitchaudio with MXplayer when I'm at work
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
February 27 2015 06:25 GMT
#23
On February 27 2015 14:04 Popkiller wrote:
herO and MC.

who's with me?


Seems more likely than a TL writer having correct predictions.

Would be epic to see a dual Maur v Life finals though (with Life winning both, obviously).
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
February 27 2015 06:57 GMT
#24
On February 27 2015 15:03 swag_bro wrote:
PartinG < Maru: I believe Maru has had enough time to figure out Parting.
MC > herO: it's MC.
Maru < MC: again I repeat, IT'S MC
M
Parting < herO: could go either way, but I'm pretty sure herO is better at pvp.
Maru > herO: Maru will just win.


Now you're just writing bad posts on purpose for us to critizise. I see right through your double bluff.
Cogito, ergo toss.
SackOfWetMice
Profile Joined October 2014
United States288 Posts
February 27 2015 07:18 GMT
#25
On February 27 2015 14:29 Yakikorosu wrote:
PartinG is such an underrated player. The guy has been in Code S (or WCS Premier Korea, whatever) every single season for more than THREE YEARS now. That's YEARS. Three years ago when PartinG first appeared in Code S...

Mothership vortex was considered a viable strat in lategame PvZ
oGs still existed
aLive was one of the best Terrans in the world
Life was a total unknown
BL/infestor wasn't only not solved yet it wasn't even a PROBLEM yet
BoxeR and NaDa were in Code S

In SC2 terms it might as well have been decades ago. I think this is as impressive a feat as Mvp's 4 GSL championships or soO's 4 consecutive finals.

PartinG's weakness has always been his mediocre PvZ. Without a Zerg in this group he's going to get out.


To be honest I don't think Parting is underrated at all. If anything I think Rain is underrated. Before all of the things you mention in your post, Rain was the best Protoss and nearly double royal roaded the GSL and OSL in 2012 immediately after coming over to SC2. And the only reason Rain has a lower consecutive GSL Code S streak running than Parting is because of Rain forfeiting his Code S spot to go to MLG, iirc. Rain's struggling somewhat at the moment because he plays safe macro toss, and safe macro toss play is very weak atm, and all-in/cheesy toss play is very strong. If anything, he's more underrated than Parting.

People talk quite a lot about Parting, and he's a huge fan favorite, don't know why you think he's underrated at all.
Zest - Flash - TY - Top 3 SC2! - KT Rolster Fighting, #6 team in Proleague! - Zest #1 Proleague Ace Player!
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 27 2015 07:24 GMT
#26
I feel like MC will come out for sure. Probably with Maru.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
February 27 2015 07:26 GMT
#27
go random protoss, go
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 07:41:08
February 27 2015 07:39 GMT
#28
Parting and Maru is also what I would have picked, problem is TL predictions are kind of worse than the Artosis curse for one player out of two picked to get out these groups.

So I'm hoping Parting loses. The thing is that Parting is such a good Protoss though.

I'm also hoping that Maru, arguable best or second best player in the world, comes with some really good builds to counter all these Protoss. Maru has a tendency to try to brute force lesser opponents, which isn't as strong against Protoss with excellent drop defense.

E: This is such a group of death though. You can't ever count out MC either, guy is really scary. I'm hoping Maru can make it through with a nice 2-0!

GO GO GO MARU FIGHTING

maru lover forever
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
February 27 2015 07:53 GMT
#29
Head says Parting and Maru, but my heart really wants MC to go through ! Since we're light on protosses so far, go Parting & MC !
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 27 2015 08:01 GMT
#30
So many players are favoring PartinG over herO, I can't really wrap my head around that results wise. I'm saying Maru and herO here and to be honest I feel both of them are slighly favored, maybe you could argue PartinG could be favored because of herOs PvP being his weakest MU though.

On paper herO and Maru should advance here and thats what my heart wants to see too, I like PartinG and wouldn't normally mind seeing him advance but over herO or Maru? I'd rather not see that.

Or MC can pull a Solar and just wreck this group lol.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
February 27 2015 08:31 GMT
#31
Such an exciting group!
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
February 27 2015 08:35 GMT
#32
On February 27 2015 14:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 14:29 Yakikorosu wrote:
PartinG is such an underrated player. The guy has been in Code S (or WCS Premier Korea, whatever) every single season for more than THREE YEARS now. That's YEARS. Three years ago when PartinG first appeared in Code S...

Mothership vortex was considered a viable strat in lategame PvZ
oGs still existed
aLive was one of the best Terrans in the world
Life was a total unknown
BL/infestor wasn't only not solved yet it wasn't even a PROBLEM yet
BoxeR and NaDa were in Code S

In SC2 terms it might as well have been decades ago. I think this is as impressive a feat as Mvp's 4 GSL championships or soO's 4 consecutive finals.

PartinG's weakness has always been his mediocre PvZ. Without a Zerg in this group he's going to get out.


I'd agree PartinG is underrated as the current best PvT with pretty good PvP and PvZ (despite what people say he kills most Zergs). I don't think PartinG has ever dipped out of being considered a top-tier Protoss since the night he dazzled with his HT play and owned Jjkaji twice (this was in January of 2012..).

Still, in all-time accomplishments he's nowhere near Mvp. still below soO and would probably rank below most gsl champs and foreign pirate Taeja. There's a pretty big gap between champ and just making the 32 of code S.

iirc PartinG is even currently tied with DRG for the longest code S streak ever.



This PartinG v jjakji game, was in from GSL 2012 Season 1 Code 2 Ro16 Group C, 08/02/2012 please?


I've heard reference to this game before, but I wasn't following SC then, was it the first time Storm had been used in PvT or something?
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 27 2015 08:51 GMT
#33
So Maru is super cursed, there's no way he is not cursed by Artosis either. I hope at least Parting has only prediction curse

Though it's PvP with beasts like unpredictable MC, herO and insane Parting.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 27 2015 08:55 GMT
#34
i've got the same prediction as TL, I kinda feel bad about it. Maru could change place with Parting even if the P seems to have his number at the moment;
Zest fanboy.
Frankenberry
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark302 Posts
February 27 2015 09:02 GMT
#35
Maru got this! Eeezzzz
gdarky
Profile Joined August 2014
Latvia78 Posts
February 27 2015 09:22 GMT
#36
Bet on Maru and Parting.
MC is the last :'(
1998-2003 ex-sc player under nickname SoL.Dark.wS
Equoia
Profile Joined January 2014
Denmark1 Post
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 12:20:00
February 27 2015 09:24 GMT
#37
On February 27 2015 15:17 xrayEU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 13:32 banjoetheredskin wrote:
shit that's soon. herO I guess I can try to listen to Twitch mobile like a radio on the way to school

I use https://letr.it/twitchaudio with MXplayer when I'm at work


Developer of letr.it/twitchaudio here. Let me know if you have any questions
Isarios
Profile Joined March 2014
United States153 Posts
February 27 2015 10:11 GMT
#38
oh gods. group of deth
Blahhh
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18563 Posts
February 27 2015 12:37 GMT
#39
Thank you TL writers. <3
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
February 27 2015 14:23 GMT
#40
Wooo PartinG!!! Sad for MC tho
Have a nice day ;)
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