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[NSSL] Ro8 Day1: Just getting (re)started -S1 2015

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February 11th, 2015 21:53 GMT
2014 WCS

SPOTV Starleague 2015 Season 1



Ro8 Day 1:
Leenock vs Maru
Stats vs Rogue

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Starcraft II Starleague

Just getting (re-)started

Thursday, Feb 05 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
by DarkLordOlli

Naver's SC2 Starleague is already entering its first playoff stages and everything's looking very interesting. Balance is as good as it gets: 3 protoss, 2 terrans, 3 zergs. It includes veterans of the scene like (Z)Life and (Z)Leenock as well as rising stars like (T)Dream and (Z)Rogue. There are champions like (P)Dear and (T)Maru and players who have improved vastly and are now looking for a big win, like (P)Stats and (P)Super. Day 1 features all in one, with Leenock facing Maru in an old school TvZ while Stats and Rogue, two players whose form only points upwards, also fight for a semifinal spot.

Old Souls

It feels funny to call (Z)Leenock and (T)Maru veterans due to their age (or lack thereof), but on Day 1 they deserve to be called that. Both have been around since early on in Wings of Liberty and both are enjoying quite the resurgence in 2015. Compared to Stats and Rogue, who play the second match of the night, they've got more SC2 experience to show for themselves. But not just their past results are impressive. Leenock just won his Ro16 group and finished the first round of Proleague with a good 4-2 record, including wins over players like Zest and sOs. Maru on the other hands is running red hot at the moment, coming off an extremely close second place at IEM Taipei and a successful first round in both NSSL and GSL. Funny enough however, both players have failed to win a Proleague match against their opponent's race this round.

This however is a challenge they haven't had a go at in a while: a Best of 5 in a preparation-based individual league. With lots of games from both out there to study, and both players' proven ability to specifically tailor builds to counter opponents, there are definitely interesting games in store. Both should come in with the necessary confidence to come out swinging, so this promises to be a cracking start to NSSL's Ro8.

Prediction:

Leenock 1 - 3 Maru


Young Souls

Each competition has its dark horses, and both (Z)Rogue and (P)Stats would have made for excellent hipster picks at the start of this season. There have been rumors of Rogue's highly impressive ladder performances over the past few months, and his broadcasted showings have begun to reflect that form. He's still in the running in both GSL and NSSL and helped Jin Air advance to the Proleague R1 Finals with a 4-2 record throughout the first round as well as his two wins against CJ.

Stats' recent match history is damn impressive. He's gone about his business quietly, even though he's taken down Life, Bbyong, herO, Classic, YoDa, soO and INnoVation in his last eight matches, a record only tainted by one Proleague loss to Marineking. That lineup would be a pretty stacked Ro8 by itself and Stats has proven himself capable to take on and beat players of that caliber.

With both players seemingly on top of their game and constantly improving, this is a great chance to see where they're truly at. Perhaps one of them can even go all the way.

Prediction:

Stats 3 - 2 Rogue

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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 21:59:14
February 11 2015 21:58 GMT
#2
Jin Air ezpz

Maru tvz is best in the world, rogue zvp is sick good and stats is easily exploitable
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 22:05:41
February 11 2015 21:59 GMT
#3
I dunno, Kev, something tells me that Leenock might finally get his premier win in Korea this time.
He has so many Maru vs Z to study and having Choya as your friend is never bad.

On February 12 2015 06:58 SC2Toastie wrote:
Jin Air ezpz

Maru tvz is best in the world, rogue zvp is sick good and stats is easily exploitable


Isn't it like first time in century when Maru's TvZ is proclaimed as best in the world? :p
Stats will win ezpz, 2-base every game, Rogue will just crumble even if I want hiim to win.
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Sweden13480 Posts
February 11 2015 22:04 GMT
#4
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United States5049 Posts
February 11 2015 22:15 GMT
#5
Maru and stats i think
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Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-12 02:47:53
February 11 2015 22:25 GMT
#6
On February 12 2015 06:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
I dunno, Kev, something tells me that Leenock might finally get his premier win in Korea this time.
He has so many Maru vs Z to study and having Choya as your friend is never bad.


One does not simply study Maru's proxy 2-rax. Its power lies in more than just theory. There is skill in execution that does not falter, and the virtuoso hands are peerless, wrists wracked with inflammation. Not with a thousand replays could you beat this. It is folly.
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United States97276 Posts
February 11 2015 22:30 GMT
#7
Hoping for a double Jin Air victory!
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Chile820 Posts
February 11 2015 22:50 GMT
#8
Leenock has beaten so many good Terrans in his prime that I lost the count (Taeja is like his personal punching ball).

On the other hand, TvZ is Maru's worst matchup.
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Canada8159 Posts
February 11 2015 22:55 GMT
#9
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
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February 11 2015 23:01 GMT
#10
After beating Inno and Life, nobody talks about Stats. I'm thinking even if he won SSL, if you did a vote on who's the best Korean Protoss at the moment, he'd probably somehow get less votes than Terminator. But I'm gonna say he beats Rogue anyways. And if he doesn't it's fine, Rogue's my favorite Zerg (he'd be even if he didn't have a One Piece OST as his Proleague theme).

Maru's TvZ looked pretty good at IEM and he's had ample time to prepare, but Leenock's no slouch. Still predicting a Maru win.
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 11 2015 23:04 GMT
#11
On February 12 2015 07:50 Apoteosis wrote:
Leenock has beaten so many good Terrans in his prime that I lost the count (Taeja is like his personal punching ball).

On the other hand, TvZ is Maru's worst matchup.


In the IEM Taipei qualifier Maru defeated Rogue, DeParture, HyuN and Life, at IEM Taipei he defeated, TRUE, Hydra and Soulkey, only losing to Life, in SSL he defeated Dark. If TvZ is his worst MU I don't want to see his best.

Also, Leenock in his prime lost to jjakji
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
February 11 2015 23:07 GMT
#12
On February 12 2015 08:04 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 07:50 Apoteosis wrote:
Leenock has beaten so many good Terrans in his prime that I lost the count (Taeja is like his personal punching ball).

On the other hand, TvZ is Maru's worst matchup.


In the IEM Taipei qualifier Maru defeated Rogue, DeParture, HyuN and Life, at IEM Taipei he defeated, TRUE, Hydra and Soulkey, only losing to Life, in SSL he defeated Dark. If TvZ is his worst MU I don't want to see his best.

Also, Leenock in his prime lost to jjakji


4-3.

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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
February 11 2015 23:24 GMT
#13
All these guys look really good right now but i have to agree with DLO here
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Apoteosis
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Chile820 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 23:30:32
February 11 2015 23:29 GMT
#14
On February 12 2015 08:04 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 07:50 Apoteosis wrote:
Leenock has beaten so many good Terrans in his prime that I lost the count (Taeja is like his personal punching ball).

On the other hand, TvZ is Maru's worst matchup.


In the IEM Taipei qualifier Maru defeated Rogue, DeParture, HyuN and Life, at IEM Taipei he defeated, TRUE, Hydra and Soulkey, only losing to Life, in SSL he defeated Dark. If TvZ is his worst MU I don't want to see his best.

Also, Leenock in his prime lost to jjakji


Jjakji in his prime had godly TvZ, and with a manly style like biotank. Not like this Maru fellow who likes to spam widow mines and is very fond of hellbat timings.

And granted, Maru's run at IEM Taiwan was impressive, but against premiere-less opposition (Soulkey and Life the exceptions). Rogue hadn't done anything worthwhile besides being a ladder hero. DeParture is a joke. Hyun is in a huge slump. Hydra and TRUE are average Zergs, and Dark is in the same status as Rogue.

Finally, Leenock's style of TvZ is more alike with Life's style than Soulkey or Soo TvZ, for example.

An as per the other match, Stats > Rogue
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sibs
Profile Joined July 2012
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February 11 2015 23:31 GMT
#15
TvZ is currently Maru's best MU.

I think TL picks are pretty good, Rogue is prob going to lose 3-1 as well.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
February 11 2015 23:39 GMT
#16
On February 12 2015 08:29 Apoteosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 08:04 Destructicon wrote:
On February 12 2015 07:50 Apoteosis wrote:
Leenock has beaten so many good Terrans in his prime that I lost the count (Taeja is like his personal punching ball).

On the other hand, TvZ is Maru's worst matchup.


In the IEM Taipei qualifier Maru defeated Rogue, DeParture, HyuN and Life, at IEM Taipei he defeated, TRUE, Hydra and Soulkey, only losing to Life, in SSL he defeated Dark. If TvZ is his worst MU I don't want to see his best.

Also, Leenock in his prime lost to jjakji


Jjakji in his prime had godly TvZ, and with a manly style like biotank. Not like this Maru fellow who likes to spam widow mines and is very fond of hellbat timings.

And granted, Maru's run at IEM Taiwan was impressive, but against premiere-less opposition (Soulkey and Life the exceptions). Rogue hadn't done anything worthwhile besides being a ladder hero. DeParture is a joke. Hyun is in a huge slump. Hydra and TRUE are average Zergs, and Dark is in the same status as Rogue.

Finally, Leenock's style of TvZ is more alike with Life's style than Soulkey or Soo TvZ, for example.

An as per the other match, Stats > Rogue


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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
February 12 2015 00:01 GMT
#17
On February 12 2015 08:29 Apoteosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 08:04 Destructicon wrote:
On February 12 2015 07:50 Apoteosis wrote:
Leenock has beaten so many good Terrans in his prime that I lost the count (Taeja is like his personal punching ball).

On the other hand, TvZ is Maru's worst matchup.


In the IEM Taipei qualifier Maru defeated Rogue, DeParture, HyuN and Life, at IEM Taipei he defeated, TRUE, Hydra and Soulkey, only losing to Life, in SSL he defeated Dark. If TvZ is his worst MU I don't want to see his best.

Also, Leenock in his prime lost to jjakji


Jjakji in his prime had godly TvZ, and with a manly style like biotank. Not like this Maru fellow who likes to spam widow mines and is very fond of hellbat timings.

And granted, Maru's run at IEM Taiwan was impressive, but against premiere-less opposition (Soulkey and Life the exceptions). Rogue hadn't done anything worthwhile besides being a ladder hero. DeParture is a joke. Hyun is in a huge slump. Hydra and TRUE are average Zergs, and Dark is in the same status as Rogue.

Finally, Leenock's style of TvZ is more alike with Life's style than Soulkey or Soo TvZ, for example.


A manly style, but one that's not that great in HotS.

Maru was 3-1 up against Life during the IEM finals, he got there handily and could for all intents and purposes won the whole thing 4-1. Why you're trying to turn this into an argument to support Leenock is a bit weird.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-12 05:35:03
February 12 2015 00:03 GMT
#18
edit Im a dumbass.

Still Leenock gonna win :p
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 12 2015 00:06 GMT
#19
On February 12 2015 09:03 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Leenock has this uncanny ability to destroy the best TvZers regardless of his current form(any remember the invincible Innovation?)

Leenock 3-1


I think you've confused him with DRG.

Though Leenock is historically an excellent ZvT player
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United States253 Posts
February 12 2015 00:34 GMT
#20
I'm hoping to see a super aggressive match between Leenock vs. Maru, but I think Leenock will be able to edge Maru out 3-2. As long as Leenock doesn't miscalculate his opponents like he has and goes super greedy when Maru 2-rax's.

As for Stats vs. Rogue: Rogue is pretty good in the ZvP matchup, from what I've seen in the SPL. Stat's ZvP seems pretty solid as well. Stats 3, Rogue 2.
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Netherlands656 Posts
February 12 2015 01:17 GMT
#21
I feel Maru will win vs. Leenock. Historically, Leenock had good ZvT while Maru's TvZ was relatively weaker, but I feel that in recent times they've been reversed. Leenock is mostly godlike in ZvP right now, while Maru's TvZ feels very clean.

Stats vs. Rogue will be a very interesting match. My gut says Stats will win, but both of them have very decent ZvP and are seemingly in an upswing lately. Rogue was the one to double Proxy Hatch as a response to a cannon rush and win against Classic, while Stats took down an impressive list of players himself with generally solid play. I hope we see more of those shenanigans vs. solid play to make for a great bo5.
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United States145 Posts
February 12 2015 02:20 GMT
#22
On February 12 2015 07:25 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 06:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
I dunno, Kev, something tells me that Leenock might finally get his premier win in Korea this time.
He has so many Maru vs Z to study and having Choya as your friend is never bad.


One does not simply study Maru's 2-rax opening. Its power lies in more than just theory. There is skill in execution that does not falter, and the virtuoso hands are peerless, wracked with inflammation. Not with a thousand replays could you beat this. It is folly.

Is that a Lord of the Rings reference? It sounds like one.
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February 12 2015 02:20 GMT
#23
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Bulgaria5962 Posts
February 12 2015 02:21 GMT
#24
On February 12 2015 08:01 Elentos wrote:
After beating Inno and Life, nobody talks about Stats. I'm thinking even if he won SSL, if you did a vote on who's the best Korean Protoss at the moment, he'd probably somehow get less votes than Terminator. But I'm gonna say he beats Rogue anyways. And if he doesn't it's fine, Rogue's my favorite Zerg (he'd be even if he didn't have a One Piece OST as his Proleague theme).

Maru's TvZ looked pretty good at IEM and he's had ample time to prepare, but Leenock's no slouch. Still predicting a Maru win.

Yeah Stats is like the protoss equvalent of soO, gets no respect.
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Last Edited: 2015-02-12 03:40:24
February 12 2015 03:40 GMT
#25
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France17333 Posts
February 12 2015 07:17 GMT
#26
On February 12 2015 11:21 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 08:01 Elentos wrote:
After beating Inno and Life, nobody talks about Stats. I'm thinking even if he won SSL, if you did a vote on who's the best Korean Protoss at the moment, he'd probably somehow get less votes than Terminator. But I'm gonna say he beats Rogue anyways. And if he doesn't it's fine, Rogue's my favorite Zerg (he'd be even if he didn't have a One Piece OST as his Proleague theme).

Maru's TvZ looked pretty good at IEM and he's had ample time to prepare, but Leenock's no slouch. Still predicting a Maru win.

Yeah Stats is like the protoss equvalent of soO, gets no respect.

He lacks 4 GSL finals to be the equivalent of soO, sorry. And he actually won Proleague, unlike soO d:
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United Kingdom2217 Posts
February 12 2015 09:24 GMT
#27
Maru and Rogue.
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Sweden1903 Posts
February 12 2015 10:29 GMT
#28
Going to be tough in the semifinals, teamkills are never fun =D
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#29
On February 12 2015 19:29 Shuffleblade wrote:
Going to be tough in the semifinals, teamkills are never fun =D

You mean the finals, Stats vs Life
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Sweden72 Posts
February 12 2015 11:41 GMT
#30
Imagine if Rogue had put in one drone per batch of units, he'd be ahead of workers! Great micro and not as good macro. Hoped to see him perform better
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Canada4701 Posts
February 12 2015 11:48 GMT
#31
On February 12 2015 11:20 SwansGoMoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 07:25 pure.Wasted wrote:
On February 12 2015 06:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
I dunno, Kev, something tells me that Leenock might finally get his premier win in Korea this time.
He has so many Maru vs Z to study and having Choya as your friend is never bad.


One does not simply study Maru's 2-rax opening. Its power lies in more than just theory. There is skill in execution that does not falter, and the virtuoso hands are peerless, wracked with inflammation. Not with a thousand replays could you beat this. It is folly.

Is that a Lord of the Rings reference? It sounds like one.


That is a Lord of the Rings reference.
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