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Pro Opinions: Changes to the Swarmhost and Raven - Page 3

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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 30 2015 14:17 GMT
#41
ROFL HuK's answers...
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 14:39:15
January 30 2015 14:39 GMT
#42
On January 30 2015 15:03 Waxangel wrote:
thanks to olimoley for getting us the axiom pro opinions!

it's an interesting dilemma that the highest level players are the ones who are typically too busy to play the balance test maps before they come out

haha exactly what i thought
also HuK is funny
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
January 30 2015 14:41 GMT
#43
We'll try to get more pros next time
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
StatixEx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United Kingdom779 Posts
January 30 2015 14:47 GMT
#44
so alicia doesnt understand the changes then
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
January 30 2015 15:15 GMT
#45
Alicia's idea about the the design of flying locust sounds very interesting. Also flying locust only attacks flying units and big units like colossus? I like this design.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Hot_Ice
Profile Joined January 2013
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 16:08:38
January 30 2015 15:22 GMT
#46
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 15:46:52
January 30 2015 15:40 GMT
#47
On January 30 2015 13:30 BBQchicken wrote:
Impact:

"Meh, won't change much."

"Meh, won't change much."

"I don't even know, this is such a huge change!"

Playing his cards close to his chest I see

Yeah I don't get this, Impact's answers don't make any sense at all.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Split.
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland234 Posts
January 30 2015 16:14 GMT
#48
I love these, thank you very much!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 30 2015 16:37 GMT
#49
Always nice to have these, but I disagree with the first sentence, it's not a balance change, it's a design change. And it's not been a while, this is the first time Blizzard does something like this without an expansion. The significance of this can't be overstated, the fact that they are now willing to change the gameplay is huge.

Great read as always, thanks!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
davidez451
Profile Joined February 2014
Czech Republic13 Posts
January 30 2015 16:47 GMT
#50
Why not ask the best swarm host player on earth, snute ? I think asking these questions people who rarely (or never) play swarmhosts is pretty much useless as they have very little knowledge about the style as people like Snute, targa (or any other eu zergs)
may the A2M zerg live a long life /targa
Hot_Ice
Profile Joined January 2013
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 16:57:18
January 30 2015 16:56 GMT
#51
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 30 2015 18:56 GMT
#52
On January 31 2015 01:56 Hot_Ice wrote:
Flying locusts - even longer ranged Broodlords anyone?


Not really, it can only attack once a minute and is almost of zero use in a head on fight. Still I can see what you mean, while I really hope this change works out and it's better than the old SH, it seems like there is just no good place for it in Starcraft.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
January 30 2015 19:12 GMT
#53
i would like to hear naniwa's opinion :D
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
January 30 2015 19:58 GMT
#54
Why doesn't blizzard reach out to the retired, or eliminated progamers from tournaments that want to participate to test out these changes, otherwise like all the pros said they have to practice for current tournaments. So instead just ask people who aren't involved in the tournament scene that much. Seriously like they could hold a small cash money tournament for the pros that want some incentive. Granted this is money to making their game better, which would lead to their game being more watched.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5598 Posts
January 30 2015 20:12 GMT
#55
On January 31 2015 04:12 DailYLeet wrote:
i would like to hear naniwa's opinion :D

I can imagine.

don't wall off against random
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 30 2015 20:38 GMT
#56
On January 31 2015 05:12 rotta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 04:12 DailYLeet wrote:
i would like to hear naniwa's opinion :D

I can imagine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCfyW6EP9FQ

Lmao what the fuck is that video
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plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
January 30 2015 20:50 GMT
#57
Some of the Comments are super race biased. from 180 sec to 20... gooby pls.
Lets make storm 10dmg, so you need to be accurate and have more templurs :D
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
January 30 2015 21:14 GMT
#58
TLO is playing Mana on Nathanias' stream.
“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
orllyfools
Profile Joined May 2012
United States153 Posts
January 30 2015 21:51 GMT
#59
What about they give out WCS points to those pro's who participate? Only a little amount for a fair amount of games played. Kinda like extra credit.
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
January 30 2015 22:00 GMT
#60
I'm still not ready to take these "pro opinion" things for granted.

Thanks a lot TL guys, you're doing God's work.
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