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WCS Europe Disciplinary Action – Jan 13, 2015 - Page 2

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SlammerSC2
Profile Joined April 2013
77 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 16:46:55
January 14 2015 16:41 GMT
#21
Sad to see Lillekanin getting suspended. Hes one of few terrans that dont just mass bio units and eventually overwhelm zerg because of mules. I litterally just tune away from all zerg vs bio-terran games because its so damn booring.

Its not really something that matters when Lillekanin gets info from twitch chat 3 hours into the game in a stalemate situation where they both knows whats going on except for the mineral and gas bank.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 14 2015 16:41 GMT
#22
On January 15 2015 01:38 Silvana wrote:
ok I haven't followed the drama closely but is it that hard to behave well for just one day? Jesus. So little to gain and so much to lose, I don't get it. It's almost like some guys really don't know they're doing wrong :/


Some really don't know any better, but they will learn. Like Gungfu, he is 16 yo and I'm sure he will learn. Lots of the big names did way worse things back then in BW/wc3. Many pros also don't seem to bother to read the rules and keep alt tabbing, going on twitter etc. during games. That's just stupid then.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
YurnerotheJuggernaut
Profile Joined November 2014
Faroe Islands65 Posts
January 14 2015 16:43 GMT
#23
Would've been sad if these arbritrary disciplinary actions would've harmed the quality of the competition in WCS. Luckily for everyone, the people who are getting punished weren't contenders.
I am the Juggernaut, Lich!
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
January 14 2015 16:46 GMT
#24
On January 15 2015 01:39 Kori wrote:
Show nested quote +
Wtf GunfuBanda... I really hope that the match fixing allegations are not true.


Unfortunately enough they are....(Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2sb8pi/gungfubanda_to_attempt_to_bribe_jeysen_in_wcs/)
He apologized for it on twitter but this must be a huge blow to his credibility and stuff

so why was jeysen banned too ? He didn't agree to anything, and his 1k offer seems like trolling to me
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 14 2015 16:46 GMT
#25
What is Disciplinary Probation?
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RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
January 14 2015 16:46 GMT
#26
It just shows a certain lack of maturity of the WCS participants. Which is OK because quite a lot of them are just kids, really.

Take Lillekanin, he's just a guy being "cool" on his stream, trolling the WCS organizers without any malicious intent.
The problem is that this tournament involves a lot of money and prestige, and the trolling therefore is obnoxious and punishable.

Over-all the cases have been handled quite well by WCS and Blizzard.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 14 2015 16:47 GMT
#27
On January 15 2015 01:46 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 01:39 Kori wrote:
Wtf GunfuBanda... I really hope that the match fixing allegations are not true.


Unfortunately enough they are....(Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2sb8pi/gungfubanda_to_attempt_to_bribe_jeysen_in_wcs/)
He apologized for it on twitter but this must be a huge blow to his credibility and stuff

so why was jeysen banned too ? He didn't agree to anything, and his 1k offer seems like trolling to me

His only crime is having made GFB's bribing public...
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 16:47:46
January 14 2015 16:47 GMT
#28
On January 15 2015 01:39 dazed25 wrote:
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On January 15 2015 01:37 NeThZOR wrote:
Wtf GunfuBanda... I really hope that the match fixing allegations are not true.


They are although he did get baited into it somewhat. Meh he's 16 and a pretty talented player. Hopefully the discipline will do him good. We've all done stupid shit when we were young.

Watching some interviews I must say that he and Heromarine are Germany's top 2 players in terms of arrogancy. They're both very young, too.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
January 14 2015 16:47 GMT
#29
Good on Blizzard for taking immediate action.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 14 2015 16:48 GMT
#30
On January 15 2015 01:46 SC2Toastie wrote:
What is Disciplinary Probation?


Well just like normal Probation I guess, just fuck up once, no matter how small the crime, and you go back to jail.

To simiplify it a lot :D.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1023 Posts
January 14 2015 16:48 GMT
#31
On January 15 2015 01:41 SlammerSC2 wrote:
Sad to see Lillekanin getting suspended. Hes one of few terrans that dont just mass bio units and eventually overwhelm zerg because of mules. I litterally just tune away from all zerg vs bio-terran games because its so damn booring.


The only thing he does different is instead of massing bio he masses factory and starport units behind a wall of turrets and planetaries. Arguably its even more boring because theres no action till he has 10+ orbitals and can sacrifice all his SCVs and games take at least an hour before he leaves his base.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 16:48:41
January 14 2015 16:48 GMT
#32
When it comes to potential collusion, I think it's perfectly fine to have a zero-tolerance policy rather than try to make a subjective interpretation.

Think of it this way: If this was KeSPA ruling over some Koreans, this wouldn't even be a MINOR controversy.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
January 14 2015 16:49 GMT
#33
Poor jeysen, he was just trolling...
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ossavi09
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany441 Posts
January 14 2015 16:49 GMT
#34
Actually jeysen will never ever have a chance to qualify for WCS, so he did not get any punishment tbh.
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
January 14 2015 16:52 GMT
#35
On January 15 2015 01:49 Aeromi wrote:
Poor jeysen, he was just trolling...


Well you have to troll after you tell blizzard that you were trying to bee bribed
I am a slave of Golden from now on. Obey a supreme leader of StarCraft 2 or you get banned. I am really glad to be citizen of Democratic republic of Golden.
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
January 14 2015 16:53 GMT
#36
On January 15 2015 01:48 Waxangel wrote:
When it comes to potential collusion, I think it's perfectly fine to have a zero-tolerance policy rather than try to make a subjective interpretation.

Think of it this way: If this was KeSPA ruling over some Koreans, this wouldn't even be a MINOR controversy.

well, the screenshot is taken from jeysen account, so it's safe to assume he's the one revealing the conversation. I really think he was trolling with his offer, i might be wrong tho, but why would he reveal it then ?
I like starcraft
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
January 14 2015 16:54 GMT
#37
On January 15 2015 01:53 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 01:48 Waxangel wrote:
When it comes to potential collusion, I think it's perfectly fine to have a zero-tolerance policy rather than try to make a subjective interpretation.

Think of it this way: If this was KeSPA ruling over some Koreans, this wouldn't even be a MINOR controversy.

well, the screenshot is taken from jeysen account, so it's safe to assume he's the one revealing the conversation. I really think he was trolling with his offer, i might be wrong tho, but why would he reveal it then ?


Maybe he was serious but then he revealed it so it would be like he trolled
I am a slave of Golden from now on. Obey a supreme leader of StarCraft 2 or you get banned. I am really glad to be citizen of Democratic republic of Golden.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 16:55:49
January 14 2015 16:55 GMT
#38
On January 15 2015 01:53 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 01:48 Waxangel wrote:
When it comes to potential collusion, I think it's perfectly fine to have a zero-tolerance policy rather than try to make a subjective interpretation.

Think of it this way: If this was KeSPA ruling over some Koreans, this wouldn't even be a MINOR controversy.

well, the screenshot is taken from jeysen account, so it's safe to assume he's the one revealing the conversation. I really think he was trolling with his offer, i might be wrong tho, but why would he reveal it then ?


That's why I said I'm okay with zero-tolerance (in cases of match-fixing) when there's ambiguity. Better to just set a precedent that says DON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT IT YOU STUPID FUCKS
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
January 14 2015 16:56 GMT
#39
jeysen should just have told an admin before even answering Gungfu
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ChaseTheSun
Profile Joined May 2014
United States61 Posts
January 14 2015 17:00 GMT
#40
On January 15 2015 01:48 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 01:46 SC2Toastie wrote:
What is Disciplinary Probation?


Well just like normal Probation I guess, just fuck up once, no matter how small the crime, and you go back to jail.

To simiplify it a lot :D.


Naniwa will be joining lichter in kespa jail soon >
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