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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
According to dailygame, RorO has retired from progaming. Stork has been promoted to player coach, but he will continue to play in Proleague and individual leagues. Reality and TurN have left Samsung and are considering looking for foreign teams. Coach Oh "Xian" Sang Taek has decided to retire, while Ju "oDin" Yung Dal has retired to fulfill his military service. Samsung's current roster:  Solar, Shine, Armani BrAvO, Guilty Stork, Dear, eMotion, Hurricane
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2014111315024085331 | ||
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Redrot
United States446 Posts
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
on the bright side, all our FPL teams are saved. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37014 Posts
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On November 13 2014 15:18 Seeker wrote: What in the world is going on,,,? It's that time of year again, that awful, awful time | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
On November 13 2014 15:18 Seeker wrote: What in the world is going on,,,? out with the old in with the new. you've been around the scene long enough to see teams and players rise and fall, this can't be new for you. | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
I'll miss RorO. He was like the Zerg Classic. Fun to root against and had a decent game in him. | ||
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On November 13 2014 15:18 Seeker wrote: What in the world is going on,,,? Brood War is going on that's what! $86,000+ prize-pool is no joke! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/465791-lovetv-starleague-brood-war-30 | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37014 Posts
Solar, Shine, ArmaniBrAvO, GuiltyStork, Dear, eMotion, Hurricane | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
And I hope we will still see Stork play. He was improving. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On November 13 2014 15:26 lichter wrote: Stork confirmed that he'll keep playing. Yay. He better keep up his improvement. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On November 13 2014 15:24 Seeker wrote: Article also mentions Samsung's roster for Proleague next year: Solar, Shine, ArmaniBrAvO, GuiltyStork, Dear, eMotion, HurricaneDamn that's weak | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
On November 13 2014 15:22 HyralGambit wrote: Brood War is going on that's what! $86,000+ prize-pool is no joke! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/465791-lovetv-starleague-brood-war-30 are assuming in the midst of looking for a foreign team reality and turn are gonna compete in LSL3? I'm excited for that prospect but also find it somewhat unlikely. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
Not really, Great Protoss lineup, Good Zerg Lineup, essentially "well if we have to have terrans" | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
Still better than Prime, eh? | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
On November 13 2014 15:15 Redrot wrote: Wow, Samsung is gonna have a strange time in proleague... I hope Stork still plays. "Stork has been promoted to player coach, but he will continue to play in Proleague and individual leagues" read the article please -.-"... | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
So are half the Collegiate star league teams, but we wont talk about that | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
 BUT YAY! RorO is GONEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! :D | ||
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Yakikorosu
1203 Posts
On November 13 2014 15:39 hansonslee wrote: So many KeSPA players leaving for foreign teams I somehow doubt the veracity of this. KeSPA players who are practically unknown in the foreign scene like TurN and barely known ones like Reality can't possibly think they have a good shot of signing a "real" contract with a foreign team (where they'll fly them to events and stuff). Maybe three years ago when it was very rare for a Korean to leave Korea to play abroad, but not right now. I feel like "they're looking for a foreign team" is these days just code for "we didn't re-sign them and no other KeSPA team wants them" except for big stars like Rain and PartinG. Samsung's definitely weaker without RorO but if Dear plays well they should still contend for playoffs. | ||
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Evil_Sheep
Canada902 Posts
Roro finished this last Proleague as the zerg with the highest winning ratio and 3rd highest overall (with >10 games played), barely behind only Rain and sOs. On November 13 2014 15:19 BLinD-RawR wrote: out with the old in with the new. you've been around the scene long enough to see teams and players rise and fall, this can't be new for you. The problem is, it's always more like, out with the old. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10668 Posts
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Holdenintherye
Canada1441 Posts
So glad to see that stork will continue to play, but is this just him transitioning to a full time coaching role? | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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tomastaz
United States976 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
On November 13 2014 15:29 LongShot27 wrote: Not really, Great Protoss lineup, Good Zerg Lineup, essentially "well if we have to have terrans" Dear and Solar do not a strong PL lineup make | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13972 Posts
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Wala.Revolution
7582 Posts
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negativedge
4279 Posts
Roro was good. I'm surprised he retired. | ||
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Botrix
Germany30 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
Samsung gonna struggle without RorO. When did they pick up BravO? I assumed he was retiring. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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ETisME
12360 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8479 Posts
On November 13 2014 16:08 Phredxor wrote: Dear, Solar and Stork make three decent players. (if Dear gets in some kind of form..). Samsung gonna struggle without RorO. When did they pick up BravO? I assumed he was retiring. RorO has not been releveant to anything high level starcraft since like forever. Solar emerged as the new generation Zerg for Khan and does a good, some might say even better job than RorO. The samsung lineup lost depth, but not somebody who is irreplaceable. | ||
GTR
51424 Posts
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Trius
Ukraine273 Posts
On November 13 2014 16:28 GTR wrote: Hooray for budget cuts. Thanks League of Legends! All ten members of Samsung's Lol teams have left afaik. | ||
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
On November 13 2014 15:14 Wintex wrote: noo stork why r u saying no? he's not retiring... he's been promoted to player coach | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On November 13 2014 16:23 Doublemint wrote: RorO has not been releveant to anything high level starcraft since like forever. Solar emerged as the new generation Zerg for Khan and does a good, some might say even better job than RorO. The samsung lineup lost depth, but not somebody who is irreplaceable. RorO was easily their best player in PL last year. Solar has surpassed him now but RorO would have most likely been their second strongest PL player still. Not really just a loss of depth i would say.(PL wise) | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
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tar
Germany991 Posts
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
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lastride
2390 Posts
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padiseal2
Austria721 Posts
RorO retiring was to be expected, he has been a ghost since last season of PL ended. At least they got Bravo who is probably about as good as Reality.Also does them announcing their SPL roster completely outrule the possibility of picking up other players? Not too familiar in the terminology | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2624 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
And this is just Samsung's roster right now. You don't have to declare your SPL roster until a few weeks before preseason starts. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On November 13 2014 17:25 lichter wrote: Stork is actually still pretty passionate. He even went to BlizzCon, just because. And this is just Samsung's roster right now. You don't have to declare your SPL roster until a few weeks before preseason starts. Give back Jangbi!! + Show Spoiler + Sry i just had to | ||
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Garemie
United States248 Posts
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
About the others, well since nobody else is retiring, I think that they will find good teams soon. | ||
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
This change is good, it's much better than simply retiring, and I'm pretty sure he'll be an excellent coach cause he seems to have human relationship skills to get the better of his players. | ||
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
Man what is even the point. | ||
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sunless
62 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
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Hassan_RO
Romania77 Posts
Seriously, when everyone is trying to save this game by growing the scene, encouraging new teams in PL, encouraging new tournaments, encouraging korean players to go abroad and expand their careers, Kespa seems to be doing everything it can to keep its dictatorship alive inside its own 8x10 prison cell. Listen to negativeedge, SC is NOT the dominant esport anymore, it is struggling to stay afloat! If you put stuff like this on the map it only helps people retire faster or switch faster to LoL/Dota2! And the icing on the cake is Rain and fantasy, having played more than 5 years at that team and STILL tied to that team because they were not free agents before? That is some serious bull, especially since most players in KR were moving through direct team transfers, not leaving team as free agent then joining another team. Kespa needs to seriously get a reality check........they are stopping this game from growing..... Also 5 years, when the full life of a progamer at the top (proleague) level can sometimes be below that? utter nonsense | ||
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
I am very afraid for the future of the Kespa teams, if they keep on hemorrhaging good players like this I remember, when Kespa arrived, all the Esf players went overseas. Looks like it didn't take long for Kespa players to do the same | ||
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sunless
62 Posts
On November 13 2014 18:55 liberate71 wrote: Zealously, 3 awesome things to happen in less than a week... how fucking good do you feel right now? (Help for Outsiders) Does Zealously hate RorO or Stork? | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On November 13 2014 19:03 sunless wrote: (Help for Outsiders) Does Zealously hate RorO or Stork? He is an infidel who does not recognise the greatness of The Best Zerg In The World. | ||
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sunless
62 Posts
On November 13 2014 19:06 Squat wrote: He is an infidel who does not recognise the greatness of The Best Zerg In The World. Ho. I mean, oh. | ||
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rotta
5585 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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REyeM
2674 Posts
Also BrAvO found a team, and it's a solid one, yay! | ||
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Penev
28472 Posts
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Ruyn
Switzerland17 Posts
On November 13 2014 18:57 Hassan_RO wrote: JEEZUZZZ! God damned Kespa jail! Seriously, when everyone is trying to save this game by growing the scene, encouraging new teams in PL, encouraging new tournaments, encouraging korean players to go abroad and expand their careers, Kespa seems to be doing everything it can to keep its dictatorship alive inside its own 8x10 prison cell. Listen to negativeedge, SC is NOT the dominant esport anymore, it is struggling to stay afloat! If you put stuff like this on the map it only helps people retire faster or switch faster to LoL/Dota2! And the icing on the cake is Rain and fantasy, having played more than 5 years at that team and STILL tied to that team because they were not free agents before? That is some serious bull, especially since most players in KR were moving through direct team transfers, not leaving team as free agent then joining another team. Kespa needs to seriously get a reality check........they are stopping this game from growing..... Also 5 years, when the full life of a progamer at the top (proleague) level can sometimes be below that? utter nonsense Dude... I agree on that 5 years requirement, it's stupid, but saying that Kespa is stopping Starcraft 2 from growing is a bit ( a lot ) exaggerated, i feel like they have been doing a lot for SC2 in the past couple months. | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
Thank goodness Stork hasn't retired from playing, we still need him  | ||
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
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Jer99
Canada8157 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
Samsung still seems strong though with Stork and Solar. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19225 Posts
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SinO[Ob]
France897 Posts
On November 13 2014 20:00 Dexp wrote: Dude... I agree on that 5 years requirement, it's stupid, but saying that Kespa is stopping Starcraft 2 from growing is a bit ( a lot ) exaggerated, i feel like they have been doing a lot for SC2 in the past couple months. That's the problem there is no little domination by the koreans. They mostly crush everyone, so it's not wealthy for the game cause its killing diversity. But koreans are the only ones (with fews foreigners) who can step up the game so often, having incredible games to watch and learn. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
Nah seriously it's sad, he was a very good Zerg. That weakens Samsung quite a bit too | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On November 13 2014 17:25 lichter wrote: Stork is actually still pretty passionate. He even went to BlizzCon, just because. . im not so sure its so much about passion than grinding himself a spot in korean esport industry | ||
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ThomasjServo
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
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AWalker9
United Kingdom7229 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On November 13 2014 22:45 -Celestial- wrote: I think Christmas came early for Zealously this week. The Zealously Curse! Akin to Murphy's Law, but different  | ||
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
On November 13 2014 22:06 Darkhorse wrote: That's a shame about Roro Yeah. Who will be the face of evil and destroy FPL anti-teams? But yeah, sad to lose such a talented player. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Dammit, Samsung, now you have only Solar, Dear and Stork who is half-coach, that's kinda bad. Well, there is Hurricane, but no second Zerg, 3 mid-tier Protosses and no Terran sucks. Free playoffs for CJ Entus now. | ||
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
On November 13 2014 23:52 SuperHofmann wrote: Is RorO the second GSL champion to retire right? Third. Fruitdealer, Sniper, and now RorO. | ||
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KatatoniK
United Kingdom978 Posts
Looking at this line-up, Samsung are really weak right now. Not Prime weak but weak nonetheless. CJ, KT and JAGW now all have a free pass to the play-offs. | ||
Liliputin
Czech Republic458 Posts
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
Sad to see them retire. | ||
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Darkdwarf
Sweden960 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
On November 13 2014 15:17 BLinD-RawR wrote: NOOOOOO stork! on the bright side, all our FPL teams are saved. Whos the destroyer of FPL now adays then? Really unfortunate but as is with all off seasons; teams get messed Stork better not leave us )= | ||
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geokilla
Canada8230 Posts
On November 13 2014 15:18 Seeker wrote: What in the world is going on,,,? Dead game. WCS changes are killing SC2 as well as the KeSPA 5 year free agency rule. User was warned for this post | ||
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t1nytr0n
France5 Posts
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
On November 13 2014 21:33 BisuDagger wrote: Rip Samsung Khan. Hello Samsung galaxy. KHAN died long time ago without FBH ! ;; | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On November 13 2014 15:22 HyralGambit wrote: Brood War is going on that's what! $86,000+ prize-pool is no joke! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/465791-lovetv-starleague-brood-war-30 Oh boy, the single guy in first place who gets 40% of that sure will be lucky! | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
I liked him! contrary to most of you, he gave me quite a good time a FPL. He had no results in individual leagues but was quite good on PL... shame he retires | ||
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w3c.TruE
Czech Republic1055 Posts
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VeNoM HaZ Skill
United States1528 Posts
On November 14 2014 03:07 w3c.TruE wrote: RorO NOOOOOO! One of my favourite Zerg players retired, OMG why?! He is sooo good. Because Artosis stole all his passion and used it up on Hearthstone. | ||
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w3c.TruE
Czech Republic1055 Posts
Dark maybe? I think he will be really on fire next season! | ||
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orllyfools
United States153 Posts
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WGT-Baal
France3351 Posts
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malady
United States600 Posts
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klipik12
United States241 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On November 14 2014 05:06 klipik12 wrote: RIP Samsung as a KeSPA org? They've let go of most of their LoL players too... Wait, really? I don't follow LoL news much, but didn't Samsung win LCS? | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK. RORO WHYYYYYYY YOU WERE SO YOUNG! Ah well, life goes on. =/ Let's hope that the Protoss line gets stronger with Stork's experience. | ||
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Trius
Ukraine273 Posts
On November 14 2014 05:45 eviltomahawk wrote: Wait, really? I don't follow LoL news much, but didn't Samsung win LCS? Their teams were top-1 and top-2 teams in Korea, and one of them won World Championship. Now all 10 members are gone. | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
sad about roro got a WCS cardgame for autographs and roro part of it xD seems this autograph will be missing xD | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On November 14 2014 05:51 Trius wrote: Their teams were top-1 and top-2 teams in Korea, and one of them won World Championship. Now all 10 members are gone. Was there a reason behind this? | ||
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REyeM
2674 Posts
Well, I'm not sure, but as far as Korean LoL goes Samsung wasn't the only one that suffered, almost every KeSPA(Korean) LoL team lost atleast 3 of their members. From what I've heard, lot of players want to move to Chinese scene. http://lol.gamepedia.com/League_of_Legends_Wiki Check the latest news section on the right side of the screen. | ||
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robopork
United States511 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + roro | ||
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The Harem King
United States12 Posts
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Yakikorosu
1203 Posts
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
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rotta
5585 Posts
On November 14 2014 10:53 BigFan wrote: Pretty big news imo. Didn't Reality have some crazy long TvZ with SK or something? One of the few SPL stalemates IIRC. Too epic for my stomach. | ||
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
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Mutaller
United States1051 Posts
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broodwar2.0
Niue229 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On November 14 2014 11:51 SNSeigifried wrote: With this we have now had 2 gsl champions retire recently (the only two to retire haha)!!!! 3, Fruitdealer unfortunately isn't here anymore either. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
no (((((((( FAAAAAAAAACCCK | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
I miss January T.T | ||
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Tufas
Austria2259 Posts
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 15 2014 10:21 fishjie wrote: Glad Roro gone. He abused gglords and winfestors to win the gsl, at the cost of sc2 becoming boring to watch, and then faded into obscurity once such anti skill tactics got rightfully nerfed into the ground. he briefly made a resurgence by abusing swarmhosts, but luckily anti skill tactics like that got nerfed too. Now there are just good zerg players left in GSL You need to spend an hour watching his games before making such absurd and ignorant statements. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On November 15 2014 10:29 Zealously wrote: You need to spend an hour watching his games before making such absurd and ignorant statements. zealously defending roro is this the twilight zone? life can finally win gsl again with him gone | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On November 15 2014 10:29 Zealously wrote: You need to spend an hour watching his games before making such absurd and ignorant statements. Now when it doesn't matter anymore you become a fan? | ||
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klipik12
United States241 Posts
On November 14 2014 07:51 REyeM wrote: Well, I'm not sure, but as far as Korean LoL goes Samsung wasn't the only one that suffered, almost every KeSPA(Korean) LoL team lost atleast 3 of their members. From what I've heard, lot of players want to move to Chinese scene. http://lol.gamepedia.com/League_of_Legends_Wiki Check the latest news section on the right side of the screen. Also just learned, this http://www.redbull.com/us/en/esports/stories/1331690117104/kespa-town-hall-outlines-changes-to-korean-lol The concept of having #1 and #2 teams for each KeSPA org is going away, so all of Korean LoL is kind of up in the air right now. | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3099 Posts
Well, as long as Stork wins a GSL before he retires, I guess it'll be alright. Still. Kark. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On November 15 2014 11:13 klipik12 wrote: KeSPA kills Korean LoL, SC2 sweeps in to fill the vacuum? Also just learned, this http://www.redbull.com/us/en/esports/stories/1331690117104/kespa-town-hall-outlines-changes-to-korean-lol The concept of having #1 and #2 teams for each KeSPA org is going away, so all of Korean LoL is kind of up in the air right now. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 15 2014 10:49 The_Red_Viper wrote: Now when it doesn't matter anymore you become a fan? I despise(d) Roro for winning the GSL that I always felt Life should have won and I didn't always particularly enjoy his games, but I'd never gloat over a player retiring (most likely because he doesn't feel there's enough opportunity for him anymore) or call a GSL champion "anti skill" or "abusive" in an attempt to discredit his achievements. There's a line of basic respect here. | ||
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REyeM
2674 Posts
On November 15 2014 11:13 klipik12 wrote: Also just learned, this http://www.redbull.com/us/en/esports/stories/1331690117104/kespa-town-hall-outlines-changes-to-korean-lol The concept of having #1 and #2 teams for each KeSPA org is going away, so all of Korean LoL is kind of up in the air right now. Wow.. that's huge! | ||
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Yakikorosu
1203 Posts
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xtorn
4060 Posts
On November 16 2014 01:22 Yakikorosu wrote: RorO was a very good player. Accusing him of abusing winfestor deathballs in WoL is meaningless--every Zerg did. Even Life who did it probably less than everyone else doesn't beat Mvp in the finals without it. And yes, he eventually became one of the few heavy swarm host users in Korea, but he didn't need them to play at top levels. In honor of his retirement, here's my favorite RorO game--against PartinG on Whirlwind in the WCS Korea 2013 Season 1 Placement Matches, which is probably on my shortlist of best PvZs of all time (and not a swarm host or brood lord in sight): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4qp60Q76Ro thanks for linking this, what a gorgeous game, just amazing. what a player, RorO. | ||
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Lumi
United States1612 Posts
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SnowStormer
Norway275 Posts
On November 15 2014 19:40 Zealously wrote: I despise(d) Roro for winning the GSL that I always felt Life should have won and I didn't always particularly enjoy his games, but I'd never gloat over a player retiring (most likely because he doesn't feel there's enough opportunity for him anymore) or call a GSL champion "anti skill" or "abusive" in an attempt to discredit his achievements. There's a line of basic respect here. It feels like Life should win every GSL. But getting beaten out by his rival PartinG was also a fitting story I guess? | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On November 18 2014 11:15 Yorkie wrote: Reality and Turn (Turn especially) have another thing coming if they're looking for foreign teams unfortunately. They don't have the marketability of Rain or Fantasy and neither of them have been successful in finding a new home yet. not that you're wrong about the foreign market but rain is on MYI | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On November 18 2014 11:44 brickrd wrote: not that you're wrong about the foreign market but rain is on MYI Oh yeah shit. Well either way their prospects look grim imo | ||
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