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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
November 15 2014 07:53 GMT
#221
The rule is pretty stupid, but I think PartinG knew this and counted on it.

He stated before he wants to play in foreign tournaments. I think he doesn't want to play in Proleague, so he doesn't care about the "free agent".
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
November 15 2014 07:58 GMT
#222
KeSPA has a very old mentality. They seem more representative of North Korean attitudes and practices than of a more progressive and modern, perhaps younger generation of South Koreans. I could be romanticizing South Korea - it's just hard to imagine them being, especially in modern generations, as ridiculous as North Korea. But, like North Korea, KeSPA seems to think that the shittiest publicity is great publicity because they want to be powerful and command respect, and completely forego the notion of being amicable or interested in working with others. It's that desperate insecurity to appear strong and independent, and a typical streak of control freakdom.

They sure as hell don't represent /my/ eSports.
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 15 2014 08:21 GMT
#223
On November 15 2014 16:58 Lumi wrote:
KeSPA has a very old mentality. They seem more representative of North Korean attitudes and practices than of a more progressive and modern, perhaps younger generation of South Koreans. I could be romanticizing South Korea - it's just hard to imagine them being, especially in modern generations, as ridiculous as North Korea. But, like North Korea, KeSPA seems to think that the shittiest publicity is great publicity because they want to be powerful and command respect, and completely forego the notion of being amicable or interested in working with others. It's that desperate insecurity to appear strong and independent, and a typical streak of control freakdom.

They sure as hell don't represent /my/ eSports.

Its upsetting and all, but comparing a rigid contractual clause to a death camp masquerading itself as a country run by aliens approximating humans but not quite succeeding isnt really the way to go.
TeHa
Profile Joined October 2014
New Zealand68 Posts
November 15 2014 08:45 GMT
#224
I would think that the more appropriate comparison would be to the former South Korean dictatorship, but even so it's surely a little extreme.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
November 16 2014 21:45 GMT
#225
I hope KeSPA took a look at Flash v PartinG in HSC. That rivalry can bring in a LOT of views and create really fun storylines.
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8545 Posts
November 16 2014 21:46 GMT
#226
On November 17 2014 06:45 hansonslee wrote:
I hope KeSPA took a look at Flash v PartinG in HSC. That rivalry can bring in a LOT of views and create really fun storylines.


yeah. dick move if they uphold those completely unreasonable clauses.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 16 2014 21:50 GMT
#227
On November 17 2014 06:46 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2014 06:45 hansonslee wrote:
I hope KeSPA took a look at Flash v PartinG in HSC. That rivalry can bring in a LOT of views and create really fun storylines.


yeah. dick move if they uphold those completely unreasonable clauses.

I don't think so. If they make an exception for parting vs flash it would be unfair for other players. They should just modify the exiting clauses.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
November 16 2014 21:51 GMT
#228
This is such a stupid clause. I don't understand what they want to prevent from that.
I hope every team and players will say something about that and not stay quiet. A petition maybe.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 16 2014 21:52 GMT
#229
On November 15 2014 17:21 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2014 16:58 Lumi wrote:
KeSPA has a very old mentality. They seem more representative of North Korean attitudes and practices than of a more progressive and modern, perhaps younger generation of South Koreans. I could be romanticizing South Korea - it's just hard to imagine them being, especially in modern generations, as ridiculous as North Korea. But, like North Korea, KeSPA seems to think that the shittiest publicity is great publicity because they want to be powerful and command respect, and completely forego the notion of being amicable or interested in working with others. It's that desperate insecurity to appear strong and independent, and a typical streak of control freakdom.

They sure as hell don't represent /my/ eSports.

Its upsetting and all, but comparing a rigid contractual clause to a death camp masquerading itself as a country run by aliens approximating humans but not quite succeeding isnt really the way to go.


Also Lumi seems ignorant about South Korean business practises in general. You don't have to look that far north to see structures similar to Kespa.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8545 Posts
November 16 2014 21:57 GMT
#230
On November 17 2014 06:50 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2014 06:46 Doublemint wrote:
On November 17 2014 06:45 hansonslee wrote:
I hope KeSPA took a look at Flash v PartinG in HSC. That rivalry can bring in a LOT of views and create really fun storylines.


yeah. dick move if they uphold those completely unreasonable clauses.

I don't think so. If they make an exception for parting vs flash it would be unfair for other players. They should just modify the exiting clauses.


not exception, do away with it and make them more reasonable. esports is a beautiful flower that needs to grow and not get stifled by bullshit rules in its early stages.
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
November 16 2014 22:00 GMT
#231
Maybe we see more Parting at tournaments when he cant play proleague... just saying. :p
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
November 16 2014 22:03 GMT
#232
this is so unbelievably stupid...seriously KeSPA needs to calm the fuck down...they are totally bullsht...
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redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
November 16 2014 22:06 GMT
#233
On November 15 2014 17:21 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2014 16:58 Lumi wrote:
KeSPA has a very old mentality. They seem more representative of North Korean attitudes and practices than of a more progressive and modern, perhaps younger generation of South Koreans. I could be romanticizing South Korea - it's just hard to imagine them being, especially in modern generations, as ridiculous as North Korea. But, like North Korea, KeSPA seems to think that the shittiest publicity is great publicity because they want to be powerful and command respect, and completely forego the notion of being amicable or interested in working with others. It's that desperate insecurity to appear strong and independent, and a typical streak of control freakdom.

They sure as hell don't represent /my/ eSports.

Its upsetting and all, but comparing a rigid contractual clause to a death camp masquerading itself as a country run by aliens approximating humans but not quite succeeding isnt really the way to go.


Its upsetting and all, but comparing a country to a death camp and the leaders of the country to aliens isn't really the way to go.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
November 16 2014 22:22 GMT
#234
the best thing is that rains new manager pengwin cant even stop laughing talking about this stupid stupid kespa rule ... when talking about "5 years" in sc2 damn he rly cant stop laughing ^^
kespa is just a bad bad joke
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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3110 Posts
November 16 2014 22:35 GMT
#235
This is so nostalgic. Kespa making stupid rules to screw over players, people complaining about it...it's like the glory days of Broodwar all over again!
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
November 16 2014 22:44 GMT
#236
A little ridiculous, but it is KeSPA after all.......

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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
November 17 2014 08:46 GMT
#237
I want whatever maximizes our ability to watch Parting in tournaments. One of the most entertaining protoss players out there.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 17 2014 08:56 GMT
#238
nooooo!

The ST reunion is denied ;;
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Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 07:46:55
December 16 2014 07:46 GMT
#239
It's a rule that clearly needs to be reformed in light of changes in the scene.

However, surely SKT should just put in a request to the KeSPA chairman to free all three players from the restriction for... well for the fans.

It seems to be the standard line for KeSPA players to frame their actions/successes/failures in terms of the fans, is this a convention that KeSPA teams can get away with flouting without some sort of reaction? What has the Korean community's reaction been to SKT exploiting this rule to keep 3 players -including the great and storied BW hero Fantasy- out of proleague? Is KeSPA blamed instead? Or do the Korean fans not see this clusterf**k as a clusterf**k?
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
December 16 2014 12:38 GMT
#240
That rule isn't reasonable at all.
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