• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:25
CEST 21:25
KST 04:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival6TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou21Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four3BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET10Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO85.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)81
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou The New Patch Killed Mech! Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL Season 3 Qualifier Links and Dates $1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers
Brood War
General
Is there anyway to get a private coach? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals ASL final tickets help Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Roaring Currents ASL final Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1585 users

Road to BlizzCon #2 - Startale_Life - WCS 2014 - Page 5

Forum Index > SC2 General
121 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 19 2014 19:31 GMT
#81
On October 20 2014 02:54 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 22:01 Zealously wrote:
On October 19 2014 22:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
JD is more likely to make the finals than Life imo


Did Bomber forfeit? :o

Jokes aside, the two have the hardest opponents they could possibly have gotten in round 1. I'll straight-up say that either player making the finals is unlikely.

??? How is Bomber harder than Innovation, soO, Classic or herO?


Life fights evenly with herO and has a good record against Classic (one of two players to beat him during his championship run), and his ZvZ is still god-tier. After soO's loss to Solar, I'm not confident soO would even win the majority of matches against Life.

JD, I think he has a better chance ZvZing soO or taking the fight to Classic than he does against Bomber's style. As for herO, eh, he'd probably be outmatched, but I'd still rate Bomber as the worst opponent.
AdministratorBreak the chains
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
October 19 2014 19:36 GMT
#82
On October 20 2014 04:31 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 02:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On October 19 2014 22:01 Zealously wrote:
On October 19 2014 22:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
JD is more likely to make the finals than Life imo


Did Bomber forfeit? :o

Jokes aside, the two have the hardest opponents they could possibly have gotten in round 1. I'll straight-up say that either player making the finals is unlikely.

??? How is Bomber harder than Innovation, soO, Classic or herO?


Life fights evenly with herO and has a good record against Classic (one of two players to beat him during his championship run), and his ZvZ is still god-tier. After soO's loss to Solar, I'm not confident soO would even win the majority of matches against Life.

JD, I think he has a better chance ZvZing soO or taking the fight to Classic than he does against Bomber's style. As for herO, eh, he'd probably be outmatched, but I'd still rate Bomber as the worst opponent.

No way, soO has ridiculous ZvZ. His series against solar in the previous GSL showed that (solar made almost no mistake and just got crushed). He just derp in final.
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
October 19 2014 19:54 GMT
#83
On October 20 2014 01:48 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 01:45 OminouS wrote:
5 major wins in 6 months? I had no idea. Been somewhat living under a rock when it comes to the past couple of years.


2012 GSL Season 4, October (4-3 vs Mvp)
MLG Fall Championship, November (4-3 vs Leenock)
2012 Blizzard Cup, December (4-2 vs Parting)
Iron Squid: Chapter II, January (4-3 vs DRG)
MLG Winter Championship, March (4-2 vs Flash)


Yeah, had to look it up at liquipedia. Still can't belive I missed that when it happened. Makes Sjow's win a bit more impressive.
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18499 Posts
October 19 2014 19:58 GMT
#84
On October 20 2014 04:31 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 02:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On October 19 2014 22:01 Zealously wrote:
On October 19 2014 22:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
JD is more likely to make the finals than Life imo


Did Bomber forfeit? :o

Jokes aside, the two have the hardest opponents they could possibly have gotten in round 1. I'll straight-up say that either player making the finals is unlikely.

??? How is Bomber harder than Innovation, soO, Classic or herO?


Life fights evenly with herO and has a good record against Classic (one of two players to beat him during his championship run), and his ZvZ is still god-tier. After soO's loss to Solar, I'm not confident soO would even win the majority of matches against Life.

JD, I think he has a better chance ZvZing soO or taking the fight to Classic than he does against Bomber's style. As for herO, eh, he'd probably be outmatched, but I'd still rate Bomber as the worst opponent.


soO's loss vs Solar was in a final...
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 19:59:40
October 19 2014 19:59 GMT
#85
On October 20 2014 04:36 therabit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 04:31 Zealously wrote:
On October 20 2014 02:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On October 19 2014 22:01 Zealously wrote:
On October 19 2014 22:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
JD is more likely to make the finals than Life imo


Did Bomber forfeit? :o

Jokes aside, the two have the hardest opponents they could possibly have gotten in round 1. I'll straight-up say that either player making the finals is unlikely.

??? How is Bomber harder than Innovation, soO, Classic or herO?


Life fights evenly with herO and has a good record against Classic (one of two players to beat him during his championship run), and his ZvZ is still god-tier. After soO's loss to Solar, I'm not confident soO would even win the majority of matches against Life.

JD, I think he has a better chance ZvZing soO or taking the fight to Classic than he does against Bomber's style. As for herO, eh, he'd probably be outmatched, but I'd still rate Bomber as the worst opponent.

No way, soO has ridiculous ZvZ. His series against solar in the previous GSL showed that (solar made almost no mistake and just got crushed). He just derp in final.


He might have, but so does Life. I think Life would be favored statistically, as well. For soO, I think it'd be at best even.

Edit: Ah, yes:

     (2012) soO  0-0  Life (2165)    
-------------------------------------
43.25% 1-0 0-1 56.75%
-------------------------------------
43.25% 56.75%

Median outcome: soO 0-1 Life

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
AdministratorBreak the chains
chuiboy
Profile Joined October 2011
55 Posts
October 19 2014 22:49 GMT
#86
soo, innovation, zest, or taeja gonna win this.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
October 19 2014 23:18 GMT
#87
Lifuuuuuu I belive
very illegal and very uncool
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 19 2014 23:28 GMT
#88
Here's my predictions & justifications for the remaining players:

Zest - Strength - one of the easiest matches there are. That's what Zest was this year. Strong. No hidden meanings, no subtleties. Only other cards that could fit are Chariot (less catchy) and Emperor. But I'd rather reserve Emperor for...

Innovation - Emperor - the reigning GSL Code S champion. No one doubts Innovation's raw skill, but after defeating a slew of weaker Protoss, an off-looking DRG, Cure in a messy TvT, and soO in a finals, some might want a little bit more proof that Innovation's really back in top form. BlizzCon is his chance to screw that crown to his head.

Hyun - World - from rags to riches, last year Hyun was on the brink of retiring after being taken advantage of by his team. He closes 2014 as #2 on the WCS ranking, having conquered the world, and would still be #1 if it weren't for...

Bomber - Hierophant - if Red Bull is a religion, Bomber is its devout preacher. In both Atlanta and Washington, he brought cattle to the altar of Red Bull and butchered them without mercy, offering them up as sacrifice to his happy Gods. No one player has been such a good investment for a brand like Red Bull Bomber.

Polt - Star - a rising star in 2014 whose winning personality, love for the West, and matchless domination in TvP earlier this year cemented him as a huge fan favorite. Not for naught the superhero he's come to be associated with, Captain America, is known for wearing stars and stripes into combat.

Taeja - Death - stuck in an eternal wrist-inflamed purgatory, somewhere between the "death" of his willing retirement and the death of everyone else... by his own hands. Taeja's 2014 hasn't looked as unbreakable as his 2013, which raises the question if this BlizzCon will be his last. Until next year.

Either Jjakji or MMA - Wheel of Fortune - could probably fit either considering how long they've been at it and how up and down their careers have been, but I don't follow them too closely.

herO - I'd be tempted to comment on this being a $100,000 tournament and herO narrowly losing the last one he was in, but I'm sure herO fans would have something a bit more substantial to offer than the lack of sOs at this tourney.

Jaedong - Magician - not a single WCS event win in 2014, one premier tournament win period (which he got by beating puck, HerO, and Snute twice... not the scariest of lineups especially given Jaedong's ZvZ), and this guy makes the cut-off for "top 16 in the world"?! If that's not a magician at work, I don't know what is.

soO - Sun - I'm guessing they'll go with this charitable interpretation (as opposed to Fool or Hanged Man or something equally depressing). Four Code S finals in a row have revolved around soO, in fact one might go so far as to say that he's eclipsed the other players and their storylines, despite his inability to seal the deal. There can't be a single person on the planet who would be upset with soO winning BlizzCon at this point.

I got nothing for MC/San/StarDust
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 23:46:03
October 19 2014 23:45 GMT
#89
You're pretty far off
AdministratorBreak the chains
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 20 2014 00:07 GMT
#90
On October 20 2014 08:45 Zealously wrote:
You're pretty far off


Psh, more like you guys are pretty far off!

Awesome, though, I look forward to being surprised. This is such an excellent way to get people excited about the finals.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 20 2014 00:14 GMT
#91
On October 20 2014 08:45 Zealously wrote:
You're pretty far off

Please tell me there's a hermit.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 20 2014 00:15 GMT
#92
On October 20 2014 09:14 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 08:45 Zealously wrote:
You're pretty far off

Please tell me there's a hermit.


Dear didn't make it to BlizzCon this year.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
October 20 2014 08:03 GMT
#93
ZvZ soO and Life >>>>>>>>> other people
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 20 2014 08:06 GMT
#94
On October 20 2014 09:14 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 08:45 Zealously wrote:
You're pretty far off

Please tell me there's a hermit.

I think soO will be the hermit
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2216 Posts
October 20 2014 08:07 GMT
#95
I love this quote

I can't lose. Confidence alone has won me games so far. That's why I know I will win
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2216 Posts
October 20 2014 08:08 GMT
#96
By the summer of 2013, Life's reputation had been irrevocably tarnished by a certain Swede.

What is this refering to please? Sjow?
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 20 2014 08:09 GMT
#97
On October 20 2014 17:06 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 09:14 The_Templar wrote:
On October 20 2014 08:45 Zealously wrote:
You're pretty far off

Please tell me there's a hermit.

I think soO will be the hermit


Attends the last five WCS KR events.

Places second in four of them.

"Doesn't get out enough."
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
October 20 2014 09:01 GMT
#98
On October 20 2014 17:08 Edpayasugo wrote:
By the summer of 2013, Life's reputation had been irrevocably tarnished by a certain Swede.

What is this refering to please? Sjow?

Correct

Well written, Zealously. I missed a sentence literally just telling us outright how he revels chaos, but it was great!
The Bomber boy
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
October 20 2014 18:20 GMT
#99
LIFE. LIFE. LIFE. LIFE. LIFE.
I love crazymoving
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
October 20 2014 18:26 GMT
#100
On October 20 2014 01:48 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 01:45 OminouS wrote:
5 major wins in 6 months? I had no idea. Been somewhat living under a rock when it comes to the past couple of years.


2012 GSL Season 4, October (4-3 vs Mvp)
MLG Fall Championship, November (4-3 vs Leenock)
2012 Blizzard Cup, December (4-2 vs Parting)
Iron Squid: Chapter II, January (4-3 vs DRG)
MLG Winter Championship, March (4-2 vs Flash)


Not to mention that a lot of these were the best series ever played.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 35m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 115
ProTech88
Railgan 65
SpeCial 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 26084
Artosis 715
Dewaltoss 122
White-Ra 102
ZZZero.O 67
sas.Sziky 28
KwarK 10
NaDa 6
Dota 2
capcasts47
syndereN45
Counter-Strike
fl0m1193
Skadoodle273
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King60
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor480
Liquid`Hasu468
Other Games
Gorgc4513
Grubby1768
B2W.Neo1295
Beastyqt525
FrodaN486
shahzam242
mouzStarbuck207
Harstem172
Trikslyr63
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick852
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 57
• HeavenSC 22
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach13
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV578
Other Games
• imaqtpie1206
• Shiphtur231
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
12h 35m
Snow vs Soma
Sparkling Tuna Cup
14h 35m
WardiTV Invitational
16h 35m
CrankTV Team League
17h 35m
BASILISK vs Streamerzone
Team Liquid vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Vitality vs Team Falcon
BSL Team A[vengers]
19h 35m
Gypsy vs nOOB
JDConan vs Scan
RSL Revival
21h 35m
Wardi Open
1d 16h
CrankTV Team League
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.