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[Code S] Finals Recap

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October 5th, 2014 14:52 GMT
2014 GSL Season 3

GSL Season Three
Code S



Innovation wins GSL
Finals Recap

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

Innovation defeats soO
Finals Recap


by destructicon

If you haven't read it, our Finals Preview is available here, detailing both players' road to the finals.

More than two years have passed since last a terran bore the crown of GSL champion, two years since the memorable final between (T)Mvp and (P)Squirtle. As the dust had settled on the last GSL of the year; the armies of Aiur were mere smothering husks in space, the swarm that had defiled Mvp's golden throne and MKP's silver stool had been usurped by another, greater Kong. In the end, the man called machine stood tall and proud having finally cleansed the Terran kingdoms and fulfilled MajOr's prophecy.

It was no easy feat for (T)INnoVation, his story is far more journeyed and, it arguably begins on the fateful day when his victory was snatched away from him by his greatest rival, (Z)Soulkey. It wasn't just the title he lost, the manner in which he lost made INnoVation seem mortal for the first time. It dispelled his aura of invincibility. And though INnoVation would go on to win the first WCS Season Final of the year, the damage was already done. Slowly more and more chinks in his armor were discovered. Slowly they became cracks and you could feel as the machine slowly but surely got bogged down.

His decision to join a foreign team also didn't help. Time after time INnoVation failed to reproduce his incredible results and failed to live up to the standard that he himself had set. It was as if INnoVation had traded in the last of his power for easy spoils and thus lost his focus, unable to secure victory in either foreign nor Korean tournaments.

INnoVation thus decided it was time to sit back and refocus. He left Acer to join SKT1. He had done something no other Korean till now had done, making the conscious choice to be the best, to forsake easy foreign money in favor of the supreme glory that of defeating the elite of Korea and winning a GSL. His results started to pick up again, and although his aura of domination was long gone, his killer efficiency had not dulled and INnoVation meticulously made his way back to the top of the pyramid, going trough the likes of ParalyzE, MyuNgSiK, PartinG, Stats, DRG and Cure. And here again, INnoVation would face the best zerg in the world.

This time however INnoVation would not be denied. All the desolating defeats and all the hearbreaking losses had finally changed him. He was less predictable and became willing to change it up, to play it safe when the situation called for it and to be cheesy when an opening presented itself. He became safer: much more willing to scout and asses his situation while less prone to overextend. Most of all his composure under pressure had improved. He would no longer falter and fall with everything on the line.

INnoVation's final victory would not be complete without (Z)soO. Despite not sporting a gold of his own, soO is, without a doubt, the best Zerg in the world. Perhaps the best player, period. Succeeding Soulkey as the paragon of consistency and pulling off a feat no one else ever has by reaching 4 consecutive finals has made soO the indisputable king of Zerg. A king, albeit without a golden crown. The mental fortitude that soO displays time after time, season after season, to pick his shattered self up, to rebuild himself and to somehow look better is a testament to his strength, and in the ultimate GSL finals of the year it was also a representation of Innovation's journey. From being destroyed, through the long process of rebuilding, to the place where he was first defeated. In Innovation's case, the story would not repeat itself. For soO, it was a painful reenacting of what had already happened three times before.

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INnoVation

(T)INnoVation <Catallena> (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation <Nimbus> (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation <King Sejong> (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation <Foxtrot Labs> (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation <Merry Go Round> (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation <Deadwing> (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation <Overgrowth> (Z)soO
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soO



The Games


Game 1
The GSL finals began on Catallena. Knowing of INnoVation's traditional weakness in the early game, soO decided to exploit it via a roach/ling/bane all-in. The attack wasn't enough to kill INnoVation outright but it severely disrupted his economy and netted the SKT1 Zerg a substantial lead. To his credit, INnoVation made the best of a bad situation by laying siege to soO's main with a strategy harkening back to the early days of Wings. But in the end, soO managed to hold on long enough to transform his economic advantage into a tech and army advantage substantial enough to end the siege and force INnoVation to tap out.

Game 2
The next map was Nimbus and, due to the relative safety provided by the architecture, INnoVation decided to go for his customary triple CC double engi bay style. soO on the other hand decided that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", loading up another roach/ling/bane attack. This time soO's attack was much stronger and he promptly crushed INnoVation, extending his lead to a quick 2-0.

Game 3
For the following game on King Sejong Station, INnoVation decided enough was enough. He to a much more defensive style, getting a quick starport and starting early tank production to preempt roach attacks. soO once more tried the same all-in as last time, but upon realizing that INnoVation was well entrenched he decided to back off and macro up. INnoVation saw a timing and hit it beautifully, striking soO's natural from the destructible rock path before bane speed could finish.
soO decided that counter-attacking was his best course of action, but INnoVation was prepared for such an eventuality and had rallied ample reinforcements to his natural. With both his bases and his army in tatters soO was forced to concede the third game of the night.

Game 4
On Foxtrot Labs both players decided to spice it up a notch, INnoVation chose to roll out the cheddar via proxy 2 rax while soO went for an early gas and pool. It looked like soO had the upper hand in terms of how the builds matched up against each other, but INnoVation's superior building positioning and multi-tasking allowed him to set up a forward position at the entrance of soO's natural, denying it for a very long time while macroing back home. INnoVation knew he just needed to defend against one big, last-ditch attack from soO and he'd take the game. The SKT1 Terran set up appropriately, easily deflecting the attack and then cleaning up the map with his hellions to tie up the series at 2-2.

Game 5
Having tasted the sweet success of cheese, INnoVation decided to take a page out of soO's book and do it all over again, this time on Merry Go Round. Despite not getting the perfect BO counter, it looked like soO would have a better defense this time, having deflected much of the initial pressure from INnoVation's 11/11 opening. However, the SKT1 terran never relented in his aggression, forcing soO to make lings instead of drones while setting up his triple CC economy back home. The lead INnoVation took turned out to be almost insurmountable for soO, overwhelming the Zerg with waves of bio units that streamed across the map. soO fought tooth and nail to make something happen, but when down 70 supply against a Terran with a superior economy and better upgrades there is very little one can do. GG, 3-2 in favor of Innovation.

Game 6
On the ropes and having suffered three defeats in a row, soO decided to take his chances again with a roach/ling/bane attack on Deadwing. INnoVation chose to conserve his lead by going for a defensive build again, getting an early starport and banshee. INnoVation's scan also spotted the roach warren, prompting the SKT1 terran to hunker down. Having realized his plans were foiled, soO switched into full macro mode, getting his 4th, droning and switching to ling upgrades. The game evolved into the standard macro TvZ. Both players went blow for blow, making good moves, gaining leads only to lose them a couple of moments later. However throughout it all, INnoVation's trademark macro shone the brightest. His production never ceased, constantly churning out battalions of marines. His micro never faltered, always holding on by a thread in the most dire of circumstances. His multi-tasking never relented, constantly finding holes in soO's defense to do damage to his economy. The game was made closer by soO's masterful engagements, but once INnoVation's 3/3 finished and his 4th had landed the tide swung irreversibly in favor of the Terran. For all his efforts, soO was powerless to stop the flood of Terran units. INnoVation's rally push had finally gone all the way, and secured him the victory he so desired.



“...and though Mvp was the last and most valiant defender of the Terran Kingdom, his era was coming to an end. Though already long past broken, he kept his vigil for one year longer than anyone thought possible, but the foul Zerg youth named Life finally cut him down and ended the glorious Terran Kingdom. The Terran was vanquished, Zerg had triumphed. The Zerg era had begun. But from the ashes of defeat would rise a new champion. Reborn under the waters of Yongsan and anointed upun the Korean ladder, Innovation would rise to retake the GSL.”
- MajOr 3:16

He had finally done it, though probably not in the matter he imagined. In a sense INnoVation had to taste bitter defeat, to feel what it is like to be mortal, before he could become extraordinary again. While his win came a year later than expected, it probably tastes sweeter then he could have ever imagined.

Writers: destructicon
Editors: CosmicSpiral, Zealously
Graphics: shiroiusagi.
Photo: GOMeXP.
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lichter
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 15:15:41
October 05 2014 15:15 GMT
#2
i like how soO's name isn't tlpd-ized even once
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Zealously
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 05 2014 15:15 GMT
#3
Rumor has it soO was offered a role in the upcoming Fantastic Four movie, to make a cameo as the Silver Surfer.
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ChriS-X
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Malaysia1374 Posts
October 05 2014 15:25 GMT
#4
tis destiny for soo to lose to a team mate in the finals
Revoluti8n
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom60 Posts
October 05 2014 15:26 GMT
#5
On October 06 2014 00:15 lichter wrote:
i like how soO's name isn't tlpd-ized even once

Yes it is? 3rd paragraph
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Kkxtrouble
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Brazil575 Posts
October 05 2014 15:31 GMT
#6
That is what i call consistency, sad, sad ...consistency.
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munch
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Mute City2363 Posts
October 05 2014 15:35 GMT
#7
On October 06 2014 00:15 Zealously wrote:
Rumor has it soO was offered a role in the upcoming Fantastic Four movie, to make a cameo as the Silver Surfer.


Unfortunately he didn't get the part
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Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
October 05 2014 15:37 GMT
#8
On October 06 2014 00:35 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 00:15 Zealously wrote:
Rumor has it soO was offered a role in the upcoming Fantastic Four movie, to make a cameo as the Silver Surfer.


Unfortunately he didn't get the part


He only lost out to 1 other guy.
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Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 15:40:16
October 05 2014 15:37 GMT
#9
I hope soO wins the hot six cup. 5 premiere silvers in a row is a sick feat and easily enough to call him the best Zerg in the world, probably even enough to call him the best player, period. But without any wins it feels hollow to say, like theres no beef behind the statement.

soO needs to win Blizzcon. Probably more than anyone
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Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
October 05 2014 15:40 GMT
#10
What a great GSL season.
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Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
October 05 2014 15:40 GMT
#11


This tweet is so heartbreaking. Perhaps one day he'll get a first place finish.
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
October 05 2014 15:41 GMT
#12
thank you inno winning me beer pitchers
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Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
October 05 2014 15:47 GMT
#13
How did soO react after losing? I mean, he must have felt crushed... or maybe he's used to it now..? ha
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
October 05 2014 15:50 GMT
#14
On October 06 2014 00:47 Fighter wrote:
How did soO react after losing? I mean, he must have felt crushed... or maybe he's used to it now..? ha


He stayed in his booth for a while, and then came out and looked kind of okay, even gave an interview.
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AFSpeeDy
Profile Joined June 2011
126 Posts
October 05 2014 16:00 GMT
#15
In the last game on Deadwing, soO didn't went for an roach ling bane attack, he went for the 1-1 Roach build but never commited to it.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 16:09:38
October 05 2014 16:08 GMT
#16
It was a decent finals. Damn shame soO wasn't able to win this time either. Really hoping he can come back next season.

Also, The King Without A Crown is a very nice nickname. I like it.

On October 06 2014 00:50 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 00:47 Fighter wrote:
How did soO react after losing? I mean, he must have felt crushed... or maybe he's used to it now..? ha


He stayed in his booth for a while, and then came out and looked kind of okay, even gave an interview.

Stayed in his booth longer last time, if I remember correctly. Might be more used to it now, yeah.

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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 05 2014 16:27 GMT
#17
Damn MajOr what a prophet. Congrats to Inno, hopefully soO will win BlizzCon after an epic final against Zest now. Also he apologized to Snute for losing, poor soO :'(
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Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
October 05 2014 16:34 GMT
#18
As someone who dislikes Innovation more than any other SC2 pro gamer and wants soO to win a GSL soooo bad. This result is really shitty.

Why couldn't PartinG just put Innovation down when he had him on the ropes rather then toying with his food?

Seems like I will be cheering for soO again next season...unless Zest keeps playing super sexy starcraft
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 05 2014 16:43 GMT
#19
So happy ^_^
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Austria16289 Posts
October 05 2014 16:49 GMT
#20
On the ropes and having suffered three defeats in a row, soO decided to take his chances again with a roach/ling/bane attack on Deadwing. INnoVation chose to conserve his lead by going for a defensive build again, getting an early starport and banshee. INnoVation's scan also spotted the roach warren, prompting the SKT1 terran to hunker down. Having realized his plans were foiled, soO switched into full macro mode, getting his 4th, droning and switching to ling upgrades.


This is not true. soO went for a 1-1 roach build. Lair (to get out a fast roach speed) into double ranged upgrades and a roach warren. Additionally he cut zergling speed completely in the early game. There were no banelings or speedlings involved.
This would have been a mass roach build, no zerglings or banelings involved.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
October 05 2014 16:55 GMT
#21
On October 06 2014 01:00 AFSpeeDy wrote:
In the last game on Deadwing, soO didn't went for an roach ling bane attack, he went for the 1-1 Roach build but never commited to it.

Yeah if he went full Courage he would have won that game.
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ZiNKO
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
23 Posts
October 05 2014 17:02 GMT
#22
Fun thing to note: Inovation is the first player to place secend in a GSL and then win a GSL later
gratz to him!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 05 2014 17:14 GMT
#23
On October 06 2014 02:02 ZiNKO wrote:
Fun thing to note: Inovation is the first player to place secend in a GSL and then win a GSL later
gratz to him!


MMA did it too, if you count the super tournament as a GSL.
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 17:35:37
October 05 2014 17:31 GMT
#24
On October 06 2014 02:02 ZiNKO wrote:
Fun thing to note: Inovation is the first player to place secend in a GSL and then win a GSL later
gratz to him!



I guess you're also only counting players where that win was their first win? Because Mvp finished second in a GSL (to MMA) and later won (against Squirtle) but he'd already won before he finished second.

Edit: Also while we're on the subject of history, soO now has the record for most second-place finishes in GSL tournaments (previously he was tied with MarineKing who finished second in GSL Open Season 2, GSL Code S 2011 January and GSL World Championship 2011).
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 05 2014 17:48 GMT
#25
On October 06 2014 02:31 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 02:02 ZiNKO wrote:
Fun thing to note: Inovation is the first player to place secend in a GSL and then win a GSL later
gratz to him!



I guess you're also only counting players where that win was their first win? Because Mvp finished second in a GSL (to MMA) and later won (against Squirtle) but he'd already won before he finished second.

Edit: Also while we're on the subject of history, soO now has the record for most second-place finishes in GSL tournaments (previously he was tied with MarineKing who finished second in GSL Open Season 2, GSL Code S 2011 January and GSL World Championship 2011).

What happens if SoO gets second at Blizzcon?
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Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 18:19:55
October 05 2014 18:19 GMT
#26
Great writing
make me wonder if destructicon and I watched the same games ><
and soO... just... pls win another silver at blizzcon
hfsrj
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany166 Posts
October 05 2014 18:36 GMT
#27


This is not true. soO went for a 1-1 roach build. Lair (to get out a fast roach speed) into double ranged upgrades and a roach warren. Additionally he cut zergling speed completely in the early game. There were no banelings or speedlings involved.
This would have been a mass roach build, no zerglings or banelings involved.


Indeed. The lair first (before warren !) is a... hint.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 05 2014 18:50 GMT
#28
When I saw the topic I hoped ther would have been a "like a bus reference" Don't know why, Finals felt like that too me.
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
October 05 2014 19:06 GMT
#29
On October 06 2014 00:40 Trasko wrote:
https://twitter.com/SKT1soO/status/516027292636946432

This tweet is so heartbreaking. Perhaps one day he'll get a first place finish.

Global finals... and then he will lose to the least expected person to win, say jjakji or san
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
October 05 2014 21:14 GMT
#30
On October 06 2014 04:06 Redrot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 00:40 Trasko wrote:
https://twitter.com/SKT1soO/status/516027292636946432

This tweet is so heartbreaking. Perhaps one day he'll get a first place finish.

Global finals... and then he will lose to the least expected person to win, say jjakji or san


This just in: GSL's decision at the start of this year to decrease the runner-up prize pool and increase the champion prize pool was made by Mvp as the ultimate revenge against soO.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
October 05 2014 21:16 GMT
#31
Honestly, the recap makes me remember how weak the games were overall. Only game 6 was decent. I don't mind some cheese here and there, I even welcome it (hello Mvp vs Squirtle game 7) but 5 allins in a row is a pretty dumb sight.

Well, at least I can pretend that the players metagaming each other was "soooooo smart"
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
October 05 2014 22:04 GMT
#32
On October 06 2014 00:25 ChriS-X wrote:
tis destiny for soo to lose to a team mate in the finals


Zest and Dear to SKT1 confirmed.
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Scoobers
Profile Joined May 2013
48 Posts
October 05 2014 22:10 GMT
#33
I told you guys long time ago that this GSL was Innovation's for obvious reasons

Jokes aside, I really wanted Soo to win, I like that guy so much and 4 consecutive GSL finals and all 4 being 2nd places... I wouldn't be able to live with it if I were him. Hope he doesn't give up nor go into a slump.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24193 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 22:13:47
October 05 2014 22:13 GMT
#34
I actually hope soO can begin to build himself around that unprecedented amount of silvers. If he manages to build a character or a public image as "the silver surfer", maybe in the end he'll get some recognition and will overcome that mentally crippling loss. But as it is, it's really disheartening to see him never managing to climb that last step. Imagine he loses in finals in Blizzcon to boot...
HopLight
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden999 Posts
October 05 2014 22:39 GMT
#35
God, I don't even like soo but this is hearbreaking. 4 times in a row Code S finals is unprecedented and the only thing he will be remembered for is failing in the finals .
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
October 05 2014 22:43 GMT
#36
I like this picture of INnoVation in a STX uniform
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Hadi2289
Profile Joined December 2013
Germany27 Posts
October 05 2014 22:52 GMT
#37
Isn't this story of soO kinda the same as the story of Jaedong last year? JD also had multiple 2nd places and even finished Blizzcon in 2nd :/ I hope soO gets 1st if Jaedong gets knocked out of Blizzcon by Scarlett/Pigbaby/HerO (due to winning WCS AM). If JD stays in, I'm going to smash my Keyboard just to support him to get 1st!
iGX
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia414 Posts
October 05 2014 23:11 GMT
#38
On October 06 2014 07:52 Hadi2289 wrote:
Isn't this story of soO kinda the same as the story of Jaedong last year? JD also had multiple 2nd places and even finished Blizzcon in 2nd :/ I hope soO gets 1st if Jaedong gets knocked out of Blizzcon by Scarlett/Pigbaby/HerO (due to winning WCS AM). If JD stays in, I'm going to smash my Keyboard just to support him to get 1st!


What you're saying is right but the big difference between JD and soO was 4 consecutive runner ups (6 if you count dreamhack and proleague) in the year. JD was second place across several tournaments in a span of about 5 months.
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
October 05 2014 23:20 GMT
#39
On October 06 2014 08:11 iGX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 07:52 Hadi2289 wrote:
Isn't this story of soO kinda the same as the story of Jaedong last year? JD also had multiple 2nd places and even finished Blizzcon in 2nd :/ I hope soO gets 1st if Jaedong gets knocked out of Blizzcon by Scarlett/Pigbaby/HerO (due to winning WCS AM). If JD stays in, I'm going to smash my Keyboard just to support him to get 1st!


What you're saying is right but the big difference between JD and soO was 4 consecutive runner ups (6 if you count dreamhack and proleague) in the year. JD was second place across several tournaments in a span of about 5 months.


I agree they're similar, but soO's story is much more amazing than Jaedong because he's playing in Code S. Making it to the finals of assorted foreign tournaments multiple times is impressive, making it to four Code S finals four times in a row is insane. Jaedong was a huge fan favorite but no one thought he was the best Zerg in the world in 2013. soO almost certainly IS the best Zerg in the world in 2014, which makes his streak all the more amazing.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 05 2014 23:47 GMT
#40
On October 06 2014 08:20 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 08:11 iGX wrote:
On October 06 2014 07:52 Hadi2289 wrote:
Isn't this story of soO kinda the same as the story of Jaedong last year? JD also had multiple 2nd places and even finished Blizzcon in 2nd :/ I hope soO gets 1st if Jaedong gets knocked out of Blizzcon by Scarlett/Pigbaby/HerO (due to winning WCS AM). If JD stays in, I'm going to smash my Keyboard just to support him to get 1st!


What you're saying is right but the big difference between JD and soO was 4 consecutive runner ups (6 if you count dreamhack and proleague) in the year. JD was second place across several tournaments in a span of about 5 months.


I agree they're similar, but soO's story is much more amazing than Jaedong because he's playing in Code S. Making it to the finals of assorted foreign tournaments multiple times is impressive, making it to four Code S finals four times in a row is insane. Jaedong was a huge fan favorite but no one thought he was the best Zerg in the world in 2013. soO almost certainly IS the best Zerg in the world in 2014, which makes his streak all the more amazing.

Talk about revisionist history, plenty of people thought he was the best zerg, and coming second in that wcs finals thing they did after every tournament is arguably more impressive then coming second in gsl.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 23:51:25
October 05 2014 23:49 GMT
#41
lolwut? finally a non PvX finals and I missed it.
Guess the ever ongoing PvSomething games hurt my brain too much and i didn't care about the game anymore
I should be ashamed I know.

No, its not that I don't like protoss or zerg, it just became boring (to me) that there were only pvp or pvz finals the last few months.
And not caring about the game left me missing the greatest matchup there is in sc2: TvZ
(I hope it still is, at least it was like that for a very long time )
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
October 06 2014 00:04 GMT
#42
On October 06 2014 08:47 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 08:20 Yakikorosu wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:11 iGX wrote:
On October 06 2014 07:52 Hadi2289 wrote:
Isn't this story of soO kinda the same as the story of Jaedong last year? JD also had multiple 2nd places and even finished Blizzcon in 2nd :/ I hope soO gets 1st if Jaedong gets knocked out of Blizzcon by Scarlett/Pigbaby/HerO (due to winning WCS AM). If JD stays in, I'm going to smash my Keyboard just to support him to get 1st!


What you're saying is right but the big difference between JD and soO was 4 consecutive runner ups (6 if you count dreamhack and proleague) in the year. JD was second place across several tournaments in a span of about 5 months.


I agree they're similar, but soO's story is much more amazing than Jaedong because he's playing in Code S. Making it to the finals of assorted foreign tournaments multiple times is impressive, making it to four Code S finals four times in a row is insane. Jaedong was a huge fan favorite but no one thought he was the best Zerg in the world in 2013. soO almost certainly IS the best Zerg in the world in 2014, which makes his streak all the more amazing.

Talk about revisionist history, plenty of people thought he was the best zerg, and coming second in that wcs finals thing they did after every tournament is arguably more impressive then coming second in gsl.


Sure there were people who thought (and still think) that JD is the greatest thing ever, but there was no valid argument in 2013 that JD was better than Soulkey. Jaedong didn't just "lose" in his second place finishes in 2013, he got absolutely destroyed, by Polt, by Bomber, by sOs, etc. At least soO puts up a good fight (except against Solar).
sadiroTnuda
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
United States10 Posts
October 06 2014 00:30 GMT
#43
Congrats (T)INnoVation, now it's time to prove you're the true heir to (T)BoxeR (and learn nothing from beating (Z)YellOw)
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 06 2014 00:35 GMT
#44
On October 06 2014 09:04 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 08:47 bo1b wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:20 Yakikorosu wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:11 iGX wrote:
On October 06 2014 07:52 Hadi2289 wrote:
Isn't this story of soO kinda the same as the story of Jaedong last year? JD also had multiple 2nd places and even finished Blizzcon in 2nd :/ I hope soO gets 1st if Jaedong gets knocked out of Blizzcon by Scarlett/Pigbaby/HerO (due to winning WCS AM). If JD stays in, I'm going to smash my Keyboard just to support him to get 1st!


What you're saying is right but the big difference between JD and soO was 4 consecutive runner ups (6 if you count dreamhack and proleague) in the year. JD was second place across several tournaments in a span of about 5 months.


I agree they're similar, but soO's story is much more amazing than Jaedong because he's playing in Code S. Making it to the finals of assorted foreign tournaments multiple times is impressive, making it to four Code S finals four times in a row is insane. Jaedong was a huge fan favorite but no one thought he was the best Zerg in the world in 2013. soO almost certainly IS the best Zerg in the world in 2014, which makes his streak all the more amazing.

Talk about revisionist history, plenty of people thought he was the best zerg, and coming second in that wcs finals thing they did after every tournament is arguably more impressive then coming second in gsl.


Sure there were people who thought (and still think) that JD is the greatest thing ever, but there was no valid argument in 2013 that JD was better than Soulkey. Jaedong didn't just "lose" in his second place finishes in 2013, he got absolutely destroyed, by Polt, by Bomber, by sOs, etc. At least soO puts up a good fight (except against Solar).

Soulkey had one good place the entire year, and that was the result of the largest choke in history. The rest was all 8-5ths.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
October 06 2014 00:41 GMT
#45
On October 06 2014 08:47 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 08:20 Yakikorosu wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:11 iGX wrote:
On October 06 2014 07:52 Hadi2289 wrote:
Isn't this story of soO kinda the same as the story of Jaedong last year? JD also had multiple 2nd places and even finished Blizzcon in 2nd :/ I hope soO gets 1st if Jaedong gets knocked out of Blizzcon by Scarlett/Pigbaby/HerO (due to winning WCS AM). If JD stays in, I'm going to smash my Keyboard just to support him to get 1st!


What you're saying is right but the big difference between JD and soO was 4 consecutive runner ups (6 if you count dreamhack and proleague) in the year. JD was second place across several tournaments in a span of about 5 months.


I agree they're similar, but soO's story is much more amazing than Jaedong because he's playing in Code S. Making it to the finals of assorted foreign tournaments multiple times is impressive, making it to four Code S finals four times in a row is insane. Jaedong was a huge fan favorite but no one thought he was the best Zerg in the world in 2013. soO almost certainly IS the best Zerg in the world in 2014, which makes his streak all the more amazing.

Talk about revisionist history, plenty of people thought he was the best zerg, and coming second in that wcs finals thing they did after every tournament is arguably more impressive then coming second in gsl.


Naw GSL is way more impressive.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 06 2014 00:50 GMT
#46
On October 06 2014 09:41 Thrillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 08:47 bo1b wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:20 Yakikorosu wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:11 iGX wrote:
On October 06 2014 07:52 Hadi2289 wrote:
Isn't this story of soO kinda the same as the story of Jaedong last year? JD also had multiple 2nd places and even finished Blizzcon in 2nd :/ I hope soO gets 1st if Jaedong gets knocked out of Blizzcon by Scarlett/Pigbaby/HerO (due to winning WCS AM). If JD stays in, I'm going to smash my Keyboard just to support him to get 1st!


What you're saying is right but the big difference between JD and soO was 4 consecutive runner ups (6 if you count dreamhack and proleague) in the year. JD was second place across several tournaments in a span of about 5 months.


I agree they're similar, but soO's story is much more amazing than Jaedong because he's playing in Code S. Making it to the finals of assorted foreign tournaments multiple times is impressive, making it to four Code S finals four times in a row is insane. Jaedong was a huge fan favorite but no one thought he was the best Zerg in the world in 2013. soO almost certainly IS the best Zerg in the world in 2014, which makes his streak all the more amazing.

Talk about revisionist history, plenty of people thought he was the best zerg, and coming second in that wcs finals thing they did after every tournament is arguably more impressive then coming second in gsl.


Naw GSL is way more impressive.

Pretty sure you're wrong
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 06 2014 00:50 GMT
#47
On October 06 2014 08:47 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 08:20 Yakikorosu wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:11 iGX wrote:
On October 06 2014 07:52 Hadi2289 wrote:
Isn't this story of soO kinda the same as the story of Jaedong last year? JD also had multiple 2nd places and even finished Blizzcon in 2nd :/ I hope soO gets 1st if Jaedong gets knocked out of Blizzcon by Scarlett/Pigbaby/HerO (due to winning WCS AM). If JD stays in, I'm going to smash my Keyboard just to support him to get 1st!


What you're saying is right but the big difference between JD and soO was 4 consecutive runner ups (6 if you count dreamhack and proleague) in the year. JD was second place across several tournaments in a span of about 5 months.


I agree they're similar, but soO's story is much more amazing than Jaedong because he's playing in Code S. Making it to the finals of assorted foreign tournaments multiple times is impressive, making it to four Code S finals four times in a row is insane. Jaedong was a huge fan favorite but no one thought he was the best Zerg in the world in 2013. soO almost certainly IS the best Zerg in the world in 2014, which makes his streak all the more amazing.

Talk about revisionist history, plenty of people thought he was the best zerg, and coming second in that wcs finals thing they did after every tournament is arguably more impressive then coming second in gsl.

GSL is more impressive because it's not a weekend tournament, and more prep/consistency is required.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 06 2014 00:56 GMT
#48
On October 06 2014 09:50 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 08:47 bo1b wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:20 Yakikorosu wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:11 iGX wrote:
On October 06 2014 07:52 Hadi2289 wrote:
Isn't this story of soO kinda the same as the story of Jaedong last year? JD also had multiple 2nd places and even finished Blizzcon in 2nd :/ I hope soO gets 1st if Jaedong gets knocked out of Blizzcon by Scarlett/Pigbaby/HerO (due to winning WCS AM). If JD stays in, I'm going to smash my Keyboard just to support him to get 1st!


What you're saying is right but the big difference between JD and soO was 4 consecutive runner ups (6 if you count dreamhack and proleague) in the year. JD was second place across several tournaments in a span of about 5 months.


I agree they're similar, but soO's story is much more amazing than Jaedong because he's playing in Code S. Making it to the finals of assorted foreign tournaments multiple times is impressive, making it to four Code S finals four times in a row is insane. Jaedong was a huge fan favorite but no one thought he was the best Zerg in the world in 2013. soO almost certainly IS the best Zerg in the world in 2014, which makes his streak all the more amazing.

Talk about revisionist history, plenty of people thought he was the best zerg, and coming second in that wcs finals thing they did after every tournament is arguably more impressive then coming second in gsl.

GSL is more impressive because it's not a weekend tournament, and more prep/consistency is required.

You had to do well in the gsl to even get into the wcs finals
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
October 06 2014 01:09 GMT
#49
On October 06 2014 00:15 Zealously wrote:
Rumor has it soO was offered a role in the upcoming Fantastic Four movie, to make a cameo as the Silver Surfer.


HAHAHAHAAH only if TL had a thumbs up/favorite option... lol
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
October 06 2014 01:26 GMT
#50
On October 06 2014 09:35 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 09:04 Yakikorosu wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:47 bo1b wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:20 Yakikorosu wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:11 iGX wrote:
On October 06 2014 07:52 Hadi2289 wrote:
Isn't this story of soO kinda the same as the story of Jaedong last year? JD also had multiple 2nd places and even finished Blizzcon in 2nd :/ I hope soO gets 1st if Jaedong gets knocked out of Blizzcon by Scarlett/Pigbaby/HerO (due to winning WCS AM). If JD stays in, I'm going to smash my Keyboard just to support him to get 1st!


What you're saying is right but the big difference between JD and soO was 4 consecutive runner ups (6 if you count dreamhack and proleague) in the year. JD was second place across several tournaments in a span of about 5 months.


I agree they're similar, but soO's story is much more amazing than Jaedong because he's playing in Code S. Making it to the finals of assorted foreign tournaments multiple times is impressive, making it to four Code S finals four times in a row is insane. Jaedong was a huge fan favorite but no one thought he was the best Zerg in the world in 2013. soO almost certainly IS the best Zerg in the world in 2014, which makes his streak all the more amazing.

Talk about revisionist history, plenty of people thought he was the best zerg, and coming second in that wcs finals thing they did after every tournament is arguably more impressive then coming second in gsl.


Sure there were people who thought (and still think) that JD is the greatest thing ever, but there was no valid argument in 2013 that JD was better than Soulkey. Jaedong didn't just "lose" in his second place finishes in 2013, he got absolutely destroyed, by Polt, by Bomber, by sOs, etc. At least soO puts up a good fight (except against Solar).

Soulkey had one good place the entire year, and that was the result of the largest choke in history. The rest was all 8-5ths.

You didn't even look at his TLPD page, did you?
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
October 06 2014 01:41 GMT
#51
With everything on the line in game 6, SoO had no gases on his 4th base and attacked off creep over and over again. What was in the production tab? Lings, banes, mutas. No upgrades, no hive, just showing off his godlike macro with tons of units. One has to question the decision to keep hammering in like that. All he had to do was back off, make a round of drones and tech hive. Wait for the Terran to come to him on his huge creep. Any another Terran might've fallen, but not Inno.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 06 2014 02:01 GMT
#52
On October 06 2014 09:35 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 09:04 Yakikorosu wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:47 bo1b wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:20 Yakikorosu wrote:
On October 06 2014 08:11 iGX wrote:
On October 06 2014 07:52 Hadi2289 wrote:
Isn't this story of soO kinda the same as the story of Jaedong last year? JD also had multiple 2nd places and even finished Blizzcon in 2nd :/ I hope soO gets 1st if Jaedong gets knocked out of Blizzcon by Scarlett/Pigbaby/HerO (due to winning WCS AM). If JD stays in, I'm going to smash my Keyboard just to support him to get 1st!


What you're saying is right but the big difference between JD and soO was 4 consecutive runner ups (6 if you count dreamhack and proleague) in the year. JD was second place across several tournaments in a span of about 5 months.


I agree they're similar, but soO's story is much more amazing than Jaedong because he's playing in Code S. Making it to the finals of assorted foreign tournaments multiple times is impressive, making it to four Code S finals four times in a row is insane. Jaedong was a huge fan favorite but no one thought he was the best Zerg in the world in 2013. soO almost certainly IS the best Zerg in the world in 2014, which makes his streak all the more amazing.

Talk about revisionist history, plenty of people thought he was the best zerg, and coming second in that wcs finals thing they did after every tournament is arguably more impressive then coming second in gsl.


Sure there were people who thought (and still think) that JD is the greatest thing ever, but there was no valid argument in 2013 that JD was better than Soulkey. Jaedong didn't just "lose" in his second place finishes in 2013, he got absolutely destroyed, by Polt, by Bomber, by sOs, etc. At least soO puts up a good fight (except against Solar).

Soulkey had one good place the entire year, and that was the result of the largest choke in history. The rest was all 8-5ths.


1 GSL
ro4 WCS Season 1 Finals
ro8 OSL
ro4 WCS KR 3
2nd Season 3 Finals
top 8 Blizzcon
WCG 1st
2nd BlizzCup.

I think we're looking at different versions of history.
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jayy5
Profile Joined June 2014
Canada11 Posts
October 06 2014 02:04 GMT
#53
Sadly not a single macro game in the whole series. I think soO should have gone macro after the first or second win - he made Flash look weak.

And not being able to defend 2 rax twice in a row with a proper BO counter is not excusable - this is why he isn't champion.

Congrats to Inno!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
October 06 2014 02:55 GMT
#54
On October 06 2014 00:37 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 00:35 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On October 06 2014 00:15 Zealously wrote:
Rumor has it soO was offered a role in the upcoming Fantastic Four movie, to make a cameo as the Silver Surfer.


Unfortunately he didn't get the part


He only lost out to 1 other guy.

OUCH
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
r691175002
Profile Joined October 2012
249 Posts
October 06 2014 04:22 GMT
#55
Honestly, soO looks considerably different when playing in a finals. I think we have to genuinely agree there is some kind of mental block at this point.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
October 06 2014 04:26 GMT
#56
Sounded like a prettty dissapointing finals, not too sad I missed it anymore
GiveMeCake
Profile Joined October 2010
148 Posts
October 06 2014 06:30 GMT
#57
No mention of the WM drops in the last game that helped kill 50+ workers?
I had a dream I moved to Korea to become a GSL champion. I slept in PC bangs and practiced only vs the PC. I named my self Death and faced Life in the finals. I beat him, but ended up dying as I killed his last building.
Meldon
Profile Joined May 2010
Greece128 Posts
October 06 2014 09:07 GMT
#58
enjoyed reading this.however the games analysis were very generic and in some instances wrong
Yashu Masha
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 06 2014 11:47 GMT
#59
On October 06 2014 09:30 sadiroTnuda wrote:
Congrats (T)INnoVation, now it's time to prove you're the true heir to (T)BoxeR (and learn nothing from beating (Z)YellOw)


Innovation would need a LOT more to be compared to Boxer. And by a LOT i mean... A LOT
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
October 06 2014 12:28 GMT
#60
soO comes 2nd 4 times in a row , Half life 4 confirmed? :D
No need Build Orders, Only Micro,Favourite Players: Maru, Zest, soOjwa , CJherO
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
October 06 2014 12:43 GMT
#61
glad for INnoVation but really didn't enjoy the finals, meh games..
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 06 2014 13:13 GMT
#62
On October 06 2014 20:47 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 09:30 sadiroTnuda wrote:
Congrats (T)INnoVation, now it's time to prove you're the true heir to (T)BoxeR (and learn nothing from beating (Z)YellOw)


Innovation would need a LOT more to be compared to Boxer. And by a LOT i mean... A LOT

No one can compare to BoxeR though. I think he means more the SKT terran lineage
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 06 2014 13:56 GMT
#63
On October 06 2014 22:13 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 20:47 FFW_Rude wrote:
On October 06 2014 09:30 sadiroTnuda wrote:
Congrats (T)INnoVation, now it's time to prove you're the true heir to (T)BoxeR (and learn nothing from beating (Z)YellOw)


Innovation would need a LOT more to be compared to Boxer. And by a LOT i mean... A LOT

No one can compare to BoxeR though. I think he means more the SKT terran lineage


I know but no one can compare innovation to boxer.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
October 06 2014 17:35 GMT
#64
great finals between 2 great players. Sucks that soO's king of silver reign continues...
I'm terranfying
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 06 2014 19:53 GMT
#65
i was really hoping soo would win here. this is devastating and depressing especially after the dreamhack loss to solar too
sadiroTnuda
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
United States10 Posts
October 06 2014 20:23 GMT
#66
I know but no one can compare innovation to boxer.


As someone who contributed to the development of professional Starcraft in Korea, obviously, no one can compare to Innovation to BoxeR. As a professional Broodwar player, however, after beating Yellow in the Coca-Cola OSL and 1st KGPA tour, Boxer spent the rest of his career mining silver. In fact, the only player to ever collect as many OSL silvers as BoxeR was... Fantasy. So, yeah, the SKT Terran lineage. It's only a "great" legacy, if you squint at it cross-eyed.

Obviously, there was no way you'd get that from what I originally posted. Sorry.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 06 2014 21:40 GMT
#67
On October 07 2014 05:23 sadiroTnuda wrote:
Show nested quote +
I know but no one can compare innovation to boxer.


As someone who contributed to the development of professional Starcraft in Korea, obviously, no one can compare to Innovation to BoxeR. As a professional Broodwar player, however, after beating Yellow in the Coca-Cola OSL and 1st KGPA tour, Boxer spent the rest of his career mining silver. In fact, the only player to ever collect as many OSL silvers as BoxeR was... Fantasy. So, yeah, the SKT Terran lineage. It's only a "great" legacy, if you squint at it cross-eyed.

Obviously, there was no way you'd get that from what I originally posted. Sorry.


Mining silver and beeing featured more times in pimpest plays that any other terrans combined. Boxer isn't just a first place terran. He is also an innventor of a LOT of thing. Creative mind and killer practice partner :p
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
October 07 2014 03:32 GMT
#68
This recap doesn't do justice to how hilariously awful these games were. Inno still couldn't hold a simple roach bust even after scouting it both times, but his answer was just to cheese soO before he could even drop a roach warren. This finals was basically a competition to see who could throw harder... and once again soO showed this is the one department where he is second to no one.

On the bright side, order is restored in Korea as terrans finally retake their throne. Hard to believe it's been more than two years and ten seasons since Mvp, the last terran champion! Innovation finally avenges his loss to SK and soO, unbelievably, prolongs a run of wretched failure that has no parallel in any sport or esport.
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
October 07 2014 06:42 GMT
#69
I am glad to see terran is coming back. Make me want to play again .
Anyway, no one can compare to Boxer, I can confirm that.
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
October 07 2014 07:14 GMT
#70
On October 07 2014 12:32 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Innovation finally avenges his loss to SK and soO, unbelievably, prolongs a run of wretched failure that has no parallel in any sport or esport.


buffalo bills in the early 90s
Stroke Me Lady Fame
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
October 07 2014 07:51 GMT
#71
On October 07 2014 16:14 Vari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 12:32 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Innovation finally avenges his loss to SK and soO, unbelievably, prolongs a run of wretched failure that has no parallel in any sport or esport.


buffalo bills in the early 90s

Haha nice one. Ominously for soO, the Bills went into a tailspin after losing 4 straight superbowls and never made it to another one. It's impossible that soO is not a broken man after losing in 5 straight finals in the past year. Maybe, like the Bills, that was his last chance.
GrayFox90
Profile Joined January 2013
Malaysia23 Posts
October 07 2014 08:15 GMT
#72
awww no more delicious Terran tears
There is only one good: knowledge, and one evil: ignorance.
TerranOwnsAll
Profile Joined January 2014
359 Posts
October 07 2014 17:45 GMT
#73
Next time SoO makes it to the finals, he needs to pretend he's still in the semi's that for some reason there's 2 rounds of semi finals to finally take home that gold!
Why are you SOOOO Godlike until you come to the finals, are you cursed?!?
SoO, your mental block is bigger then any player I have heard of in both SC Broodwar and SC2.
Man, I miss how dominant seige tanks were in SC1. Wish they would bring that back in SC2
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
October 08 2014 00:38 GMT
#74
This time however INnoVation would not be denied. All the desolating defeats and all the hearbreaking losses had finally changed him. He was less predictable and became willing to change it up, to play it safe when the situation called for it and to be cheesy when an opening presented itself. He became safer: much more willing to scout and asses his situation while less prone to overextend. Most of all his composure under pressure had improved. He would no longer falter and fall with everything on the line.

Game 3
For the following game on King Sejong Station, INnoVation decided enough was enough. He to a much more defensive style,

I see that Team Liquid still refuses to have an editor checking the articles before publishing x(
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Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
October 08 2014 13:21 GMT
#75
Nice recap, really unhappy that I missed it.

If we notice problems in the text we should pm ... teamliquid esports?

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the armies of Aiur were mere smothering husks in space
probably not in the matter he imagined
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
October 08 2014 13:33 GMT
#76
This is soO's third second place finish in a row? Or is it his fourth? I've lost count now. haha. KING OF KONGS
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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-08 13:45:30
October 08 2014 13:44 GMT
#77
On October 07 2014 12:32 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Hard to believe it's been more than two years and ten seasons since Mvp, the last terran champion!


Its been a long time. They reached the same number of GOM Code S level competitions without a winner as Protoss suffered between MC and Seed, 9 competitions without a win (though more time because of way fewer Code S competitions these days, I miss the days of a bunch of Code S every year ).

Another interesting thing is that the last time Terran won was right before the Protoss losing streak was broken by Seed.


Only race to go through a period without an equivalent dry patch now is Zerg, they're current on their longest streak of 5 competitions since Soulkey won (previous streak was 4 without a win I think). Which is strange considering Zerg actually has a similar medals total to Protoss.



Anyway, feel so bad for soO. The guy deserves to win Blizzcon.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
lailaiwd
Profile Joined October 2012
United States65 Posts
October 08 2014 18:19 GMT
#78
I think some other old folks like me would have realized that Soo was the guy who knocked Mvp out of code A and sent him down a deteriorating path. These consecutive second places might just be the curse planted by Mvp. Now that Innovation finishes it against a Zerg, it definitely fulfills the Major prophecy to every extent. Remember how Life is also failing now, lol.
In Mvp I trust.
Axxis
Profile Joined May 2010
United States133 Posts
October 08 2014 20:24 GMT
#79
I wondered if Innovation would ever have a chance to make it back to the finals. He seemed much better than a one season wonder. I knew he would be code S material for a long time coming but I wasn't so sure about code S champion. Glad to see him back on top. Innovation, more so than anyone else seems to play so much better with confidence. When this guy has his mind right he's probably the scariest player in code S.
What we obtain too cheaply; we esteem too lightly. It is in dearness only that gives everything it's value.
Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
October 09 2014 23:15 GMT
#80
On October 09 2014 05:24 Axxis wrote:
I wondered if Innovation would ever have a chance to make it back to the finals. He seemed much better than a one season wonder. I knew he would be code S material for a long time coming but I wasn't so sure about code S champion. Glad to see him back on top. Innovation, more so than anyone else seems to play so much better with confidence. When this guy has his mind right he's probably the scariest player in code S.

Never doubt Innovation!
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-10 00:39:58
October 10 2014 00:38 GMT
#81
The whole 'first terran champion since Mvp beat Squirtle' thing requires you to completely ignore Maru in 2013. Yes technically that was an OSL not Code S but when the two formats were merged into a single WCS Korea tournament that distinction lost meaning. It's also BS that DRG got the nestea award relying on this meaningless and artificial distinction.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 11 2014 15:20 GMT
#82
On October 10 2014 09:38 Yakikorosu wrote:
The whole 'first terran champion since Mvp beat Squirtle' thing requires you to completely ignore Maru in 2013. Yes technically that was an OSL not Code S but when the two formats were merged into a single WCS Korea tournament that distinction lost meaning. It's also BS that DRG got the nestea award relying on this meaningless and artificial distinction.

Well, to be honest, OSL DID have a slightly different format from Code S even in that season.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
October 11 2014 15:45 GMT
#83
On October 12 2014 00:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
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On October 10 2014 09:38 Yakikorosu wrote:
The whole 'first terran champion since Mvp beat Squirtle' thing requires you to completely ignore Maru in 2013. Yes technically that was an OSL not Code S but when the two formats were merged into a single WCS Korea tournament that distinction lost meaning. It's also BS that DRG got the nestea award relying on this meaningless and artificial distinction.

Well, to be honest, OSL DID have a slightly different format from Code S even in that season.


Sure, slight differences like RO32 groups were Bo1, and RO16 was round robin groups. Code S itself had these types of variances all the time in the past--most of 2011 the RO32 was Bo1 just like the OSL did it that season, at least one time the RO16 in Code S was a bracket stage instead of group stages, etc. No one argues those Code S seasons counted less (if they did you'd have to take a bunch of titles away from Mvp and NesTea).
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
October 17 2014 16:57 GMT
#84
It's been a while...since its a wcs tourney are vods freely available?
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
October 17 2014 16:59 GMT
#85
On October 18 2014 01:57 wangstra wrote:
It's been a while...since its a wcs tourney are vods freely available?


According to the banner on GOMEXP's Youtube site, they will be available tomorrow (10/18)
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