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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
September 19 2014 18:14 GMT
#61
Why are people talking about Prime dying? They got a new sponsor not long ago, I would be really weird for them to disband now...
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Liliputin
Profile Joined January 2012
Czech Republic458 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 18:16:38
September 19 2014 18:14 GMT
#62
On September 20 2014 02:52 Shinespark wrote:
I suspect State isn't leaving, he's jumping ship, because Prime is not participating in proleague next season and that means they're disbanding. They survived a LONG time, but I doubt they can keep it up.

What, please next time before you that kind of a statement make sure you know what are you talking about...

1) Prime will be participating in next PL
2) They are not disbanding
3) They got a new main sponsor KTC and for the first time in their team history pay their players a proper salary
4) Maybe you doubt that they will live much longer, but they are in fact getting new players, and just recently got Myungsik
Prime <3 l black from exile l F O R S E N B O Y S
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 19 2014 18:17 GMT
#63
Prime was in a way worse position 1.5 year ago. No sponsor, MKP to LoL, they just left GSTL and esf, and they still survived.

Now they're actually looking better than ever (got salaries for the first time ever), they just need the players/results now.
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Liliputin
Profile Joined January 2012
Czech Republic458 Posts
September 19 2014 18:18 GMT
#64
On September 20 2014 03:17 Lorning wrote:
Prime was in a way worse position 1.5 year ago. No sponsor, MKP to LoL, they just left GSTL and esf, and they still survived.

Now they're actually looking better than ever (got salaries for the first time ever), they just need the players/results now.

Totally agree...
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
September 19 2014 18:27 GMT
#65
Primes roster needs some serious new talent
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Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
September 19 2014 18:42 GMT
#66
On September 20 2014 03:14 Liliputin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 02:52 Shinespark wrote:
I suspect State isn't leaving, he's jumping ship, because Prime is not participating in proleague next season and that means they're disbanding. They survived a LONG time, but I doubt they can keep it up.

What, please next time before you that kind of a statement make sure you know what are you talking about...

1) Prime will be participating in next PL
2) They are not disbanding
3) They got a new main sponsor KTC and for the first time in their team history pay their players a proper salary
4) Maybe you doubt that they will live much longer, but they are in fact getting new players, and just recently got Myungsik

Oh, they are? How surprising, I guess I haven't been keeping up.
That's good, I'm happy for them but this is very unexpected. I mean they did very poorly in proleague, their lineup is terrible and they have players leaving, I thought they just couldn't keep the miracle going anymore. I mean they survived TSL, IM, FXO, Slayers and a long list of better teams.
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Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
September 19 2014 18:51 GMT
#67
On September 20 2014 02:39 Prevail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 00:22 LeLfe wrote:
On September 19 2014 23:52 Prevail wrote:
State was not playing up to par for Prime. He failed to make GSL Code A a few times, not even making it to a top 4 in the qualifiers for Code A. I don't know if this whole living in Korea thing has paid off for him yet. If State wants to a make a deep run in WCS America 2015, he will need another team who is willing to help him better because Prime didn't seem to do much for his skill. In my opinion, I think State should come back to US, join a team like EG or Root, and qualify for AM challenger, his chances would be way better than trying to qualify for GSL. His time in Korea has not shown any results on paper, he hasn't had a top placement in any tournament (DH, MLG, GSL, WCS, etc.). However, State is very young, and I believe he is a talented player, but he needs something more than just "Korea" to help his game.

EVERY Prime players failed... (except for chOya once)



You are wrong LeLfe. Quite a few players from Prime went on to have extraordinary success. Take MarineKing.Prime, back in the days of WoL, he was a consistant Code S player, even placing 2nd in 2011 by losing only to the "King of Wings" Mvp. Not to mention he won an MLG arena, a tournament in which all players at the time were Code S, except for Huk, he was the only foreigner.

Creator.Prime is another example. He place 2nd in the in the first ever WCS global finals which took place in China. He lost to Parting, who is a ridiculous protoss player. Creator ended up winning $40,000 for his efforts, Parting took home the first $100,000 ever given away in SC2.

Maybe Prime is not the greatest team now of days, but there players are still certainly Code A material with Myungsik still in Code S and Code A consistently. It's obvious State wasn't getting the help he needed over the past 6 months. He couldn't even make it in the GSL Code A qualifiers. This goes to show that it is not the players who are "fail", but perhaps the coaching and staff that needs improvement. It appears that Prime lacks practice as team, and it seems more like "every man for himself". The players probably don't practice together alot, share ideas and/or strategies, it would explain why Prime did so poorly in Proleague this year.

I think it's pretty clear LeLfe was referring to 2014, in which State had just as much GSL success as any non-choya member of the team.
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
September 19 2014 19:26 GMT
#68
RIP State winning GSL
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AKAvg
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil298 Posts
September 19 2014 19:29 GMT
#69
So Prime has 5 members now? Isn't that like the bare minimum for Proleague?
They really need more members
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
September 19 2014 20:09 GMT
#70
On September 20 2014 04:29 AKAvg wrote:
So Prime has 5 members now? Isn't that like the bare minimum for Proleague?
They really need more members

I don't know if you can count ByuN as a real member, I mean, when is the last time we saw ByuN in an official competition?
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
September 19 2014 20:20 GMT
#71
On September 20 2014 05:09 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 04:29 AKAvg wrote:
So Prime has 5 members now? Isn't that like the bare minimum for Proleague?
They really need more members

I don't know if you can count ByuN as a real member, I mean, when is the last time we saw ByuN in an official competition?

According to the Liquipedia page, his last official game was at IEM Sao Paulo Qualifiers, played on December 18 2013
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Ovid
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom948 Posts
September 19 2014 20:21 GMT
#72
Pick up Hyvaa he needs a team!
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 19 2014 20:38 GMT
#73
On September 19 2014 22:05 5c0rp10n wrote:
State didnt deliver. Sorry for him! I hope he finds a new team/training house.

Thats more than a bit harsh. On average it takes 2 years for Korean training to result in a break through. The fact state is still willing to continue training is an excellent sign!
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PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
September 19 2014 20:47 GMT
#74
is barbie not in the player roster? would love to see more of her :D
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 19 2014 20:48 GMT
#75
On September 20 2014 05:20 SuperHofmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 05:09 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 20 2014 04:29 AKAvg wrote:
So Prime has 5 members now? Isn't that like the bare minimum for Proleague?
They really need more members

I don't know if you can count ByuN as a real member, I mean, when is the last time we saw ByuN in an official competition?

According to the Liquipedia page, his last official game was at IEM Sao Paulo Qualifiers, played on December 18 2013


But he beat Parting!
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SkySC2
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany303 Posts
September 19 2014 20:58 GMT
#76
On September 20 2014 05:47 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
is barbie not in the player roster? would love to see more of her :D


she left prime 4 days ago
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
September 19 2014 21:45 GMT
#77
On September 20 2014 05:58 SkySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 05:47 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
is barbie not in the player roster? would love to see more of her :D


she left prime 4 days ago

Smart girl.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 19 2014 21:48 GMT
#78
On September 20 2014 06:45 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 05:58 SkySC2 wrote:
On September 20 2014 05:47 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
is barbie not in the player roster? would love to see more of her :D


she left prime 4 days ago

Smart girl.

Yes, leaving when Prime gets salary for the 1st time in 4 years. Clever
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SkySC2
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany303 Posts
September 19 2014 21:52 GMT
#79
still wondering if byun will participate in the next pl.. hes STILL on the roster. will we ever get an explanation?
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10750 Posts
September 19 2014 22:27 GMT
#80
Sorry for State, I hope he finds a new home in Korea, really nice to see foreigners in korean training enviroments. And hell at least he improved A LOT since he went there ! State fighting~
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