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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 13 2014 14:02 GMT
#81
On September 13 2014 22:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 22:55 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:45 GumBa wrote:
I just had an idea. Jin Air or CJ Jaedong. They both need a new zerg and JD would be able to get good again

I don't think JD wants be part of kespa again though. He enjoys his freedom


I'm not sure. He enjoys being able to jump all over the world, but he hates losing. I wouldn't be surprised at all (seems likely, even) to see him go back to KeSPA. He knows from experience that the practice regime works, he enjoys playing in Proleague, and so on. Definitely not out of the question.

Which is pretty much not possible if you are on a kespa team.
I don't see it happening, even though i would be extremely happy to see him play to his full potential ( i still think he could be a top3 zerg easily)

If a kespa player qualifies anywhere they are usually allowed to go (iem, RB) and they have sent people to events depending on the team ( dh hsc)
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 13 2014 14:04 GMT
#82
Yeah i know they send players from time to time. But JD kinda goes to "every" tournament there is, that is hardly possible for a kespa team i fear.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 13 2014 14:06 GMT
#83
On September 13 2014 22:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 22:55 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:45 GumBa wrote:
I just had an idea. Jin Air or CJ Jaedong. They both need a new zerg and JD would be able to get good again

I don't think JD wants be part of kespa again though. He enjoys his freedom


I'm not sure. He enjoys being able to jump all over the world, but he hates losing. I wouldn't be surprised at all (seems likely, even) to see him go back to KeSPA. He knows from experience that the practice regime works, he enjoys playing in Proleague, and so on. Definitely not out of the question.

Which is pretty much not possible if you are on a kespa team.
I don't see it happening, even though i would be extremely happy to see him play to his full potential ( i still think he could be a top3 zerg easily)


Samsung and CJ make it happen. To reiterate, I think JD values being good more than he values being able to go everywhere. He's had plenty of time to travel the world, but with his recent dip in form I think a drastic move (ie. back to KeSPA) is a real option for him.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 13 2014 14:09 GMT
#84
On September 13 2014 23:06 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 22:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:55 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:45 GumBa wrote:
I just had an idea. Jin Air or CJ Jaedong. They both need a new zerg and JD would be able to get good again

I don't think JD wants be part of kespa again though. He enjoys his freedom


I'm not sure. He enjoys being able to jump all over the world, but he hates losing. I wouldn't be surprised at all (seems likely, even) to see him go back to KeSPA. He knows from experience that the practice regime works, he enjoys playing in Proleague, and so on. Definitely not out of the question.

Which is pretty much not possible if you are on a kespa team.
I don't see it happening, even though i would be extremely happy to see him play to his full potential ( i still think he could be a top3 zerg easily)


Samsung and CJ make it happen. To reiterate, I think JD values being good more than he values being able to go everywhere. He's had plenty of time to travel the world, but with his recent dip in form I think a drastic move (ie. back to KeSPA) is a real option for him.

Do you have any insider informations
I mean i would actually love it to see him in proleague again, we will see i guess ....
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
September 13 2014 14:14 GMT
#85
On September 13 2014 23:02 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 22:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:55 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:45 GumBa wrote:
I just had an idea. Jin Air or CJ Jaedong. They both need a new zerg and JD would be able to get good again

I don't think JD wants be part of kespa again though. He enjoys his freedom


I'm not sure. He enjoys being able to jump all over the world, but he hates losing. I wouldn't be surprised at all (seems likely, even) to see him go back to KeSPA. He knows from experience that the practice regime works, he enjoys playing in Proleague, and so on. Definitely not out of the question.

Which is pretty much not possible if you are on a kespa team.
I don't see it happening, even though i would be extremely happy to see him play to his full potential ( i still think he could be a top3 zerg easily)

If a kespa player qualifies anywhere they are usually allowed to go (iem, RB) and they have sent people to events depending on the team ( dh hsc)



Yes, that's why they're all on top of the WCS rankings

How many times Rain and Parting have been abroad in 2014? Flash participated to 1 event yeah!

None of them will be seen at blizzcon.


People are blaming blizzard for the WCS points, but there s only one responsible : KeSPA.
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 13 2014 14:21 GMT
#86
On September 13 2014 23:14 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 23:02 GumBa wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:55 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:45 GumBa wrote:
I just had an idea. Jin Air or CJ Jaedong. They both need a new zerg and JD would be able to get good again

I don't think JD wants be part of kespa again though. He enjoys his freedom


I'm not sure. He enjoys being able to jump all over the world, but he hates losing. I wouldn't be surprised at all (seems likely, even) to see him go back to KeSPA. He knows from experience that the practice regime works, he enjoys playing in Proleague, and so on. Definitely not out of the question.

Which is pretty much not possible if you are on a kespa team.
I don't see it happening, even though i would be extremely happy to see him play to his full potential ( i still think he could be a top3 zerg easily)

If a kespa player qualifies anywhere they are usually allowed to go (iem, RB) and they have sent people to events depending on the team ( dh hsc)



Yes, that's why they're all on top of the WCS rankings

How many times Rain and Parting have been abroad in 2014? Flash participated to 1 event yeah!

None of them will be seen at blizzcon.


People are blaming blizzard for the WCS points, but there s only one responsible : KeSPA.


That's not true. KeSPA teams cannot afford to send their players everywhere because there is very little return of investment in doing so. Their sponsors are mostly Korean companies with no interest in overseas tournaments because the viewers there cannot buy their products. KeSPA teams have to focus on Proleague to satisfy their sponsors, or it would be even less of a worthwhile investment than today. To say that KeSPA teams are at fault for doing what they have to do in order to not sink is ignorant.
AdministratorBreak the chains
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 13 2014 14:22 GMT
#87
On September 13 2014 23:14 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 23:02 GumBa wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:55 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:45 GumBa wrote:
I just had an idea. Jin Air or CJ Jaedong. They both need a new zerg and JD would be able to get good again

I don't think JD wants be part of kespa again though. He enjoys his freedom


I'm not sure. He enjoys being able to jump all over the world, but he hates losing. I wouldn't be surprised at all (seems likely, even) to see him go back to KeSPA. He knows from experience that the practice regime works, he enjoys playing in Proleague, and so on. Definitely not out of the question.

Which is pretty much not possible if you are on a kespa team.
I don't see it happening, even though i would be extremely happy to see him play to his full potential ( i still think he could be a top3 zerg easily)

If a kespa player qualifies anywhere they are usually allowed to go (iem, RB) and they have sent people to events depending on the team ( dh hsc)



Yes, that's why they're all on top of the WCS rankings

How many times Rain and Parting have been abroad in 2014? Flash participated to 1 event yeah!

None of them will be seen at blizzcon.


People are blaming blizzard for the WCS points, but there s only one responsible : KeSPA.

Rain qualified and went to Iem cologne and lost to Polt
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
September 13 2014 15:02 GMT
#88
amazing OP.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
September 13 2014 15:31 GMT
#89
guys i had a thought yesterday

for one of yoe's pickups for PL, Jinro comes out of retirement :D
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 13 2014 17:08 GMT
#90
On September 14 2014 00:31 GTPGlitch wrote:
guys i had a thought yesterday

for one of yoe's pickups for PL, Jinro comes out of retirement :D

Jinro please confirm this
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Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
September 13 2014 18:20 GMT
#91
On September 13 2014 23:21 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 23:14 Gwavajuice wrote:
On September 13 2014 23:02 GumBa wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:55 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:45 GumBa wrote:
I just had an idea. Jin Air or CJ Jaedong. They both need a new zerg and JD would be able to get good again

I don't think JD wants be part of kespa again though. He enjoys his freedom


I'm not sure. He enjoys being able to jump all over the world, but he hates losing. I wouldn't be surprised at all (seems likely, even) to see him go back to KeSPA. He knows from experience that the practice regime works, he enjoys playing in Proleague, and so on. Definitely not out of the question.

Which is pretty much not possible if you are on a kespa team.
I don't see it happening, even though i would be extremely happy to see him play to his full potential ( i still think he could be a top3 zerg easily)

If a kespa player qualifies anywhere they are usually allowed to go (iem, RB) and they have sent people to events depending on the team ( dh hsc)



Yes, that's why they're all on top of the WCS rankings

How many times Rain and Parting have been abroad in 2014? Flash participated to 1 event yeah!

None of them will be seen at blizzcon.


People are blaming blizzard for the WCS points, but there s only one responsible : KeSPA.


That's not true. KeSPA teams cannot afford to send their players everywhere because there is very little return of investment in doing so. Their sponsors are mostly Korean companies with no interest in overseas tournaments because the viewers there cannot buy their products. KeSPA teams have to focus on Proleague to satisfy their sponsors, or it would be even less of a worthwhile investment than today. To say that KeSPA teams are at fault for doing what they have to do in order to not sink is ignorant.


I don't say they don't have valid reason from their point of view, I just say they just mechanicaly prevent their best players from going to Blizzcon which these players don't seem to appreciate much.

(and in the long run it may hurt them even more if more star player decide to follow Rain and Parting)

Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
September 13 2014 19:06 GMT
#92
On September 14 2014 03:20 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 23:21 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2014 23:14 Gwavajuice wrote:
On September 13 2014 23:02 GumBa wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:55 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:45 GumBa wrote:
I just had an idea. Jin Air or CJ Jaedong. They both need a new zerg and JD would be able to get good again

I don't think JD wants be part of kespa again though. He enjoys his freedom


I'm not sure. He enjoys being able to jump all over the world, but he hates losing. I wouldn't be surprised at all (seems likely, even) to see him go back to KeSPA. He knows from experience that the practice regime works, he enjoys playing in Proleague, and so on. Definitely not out of the question.

Which is pretty much not possible if you are on a kespa team.
I don't see it happening, even though i would be extremely happy to see him play to his full potential ( i still think he could be a top3 zerg easily)

If a kespa player qualifies anywhere they are usually allowed to go (iem, RB) and they have sent people to events depending on the team ( dh hsc)



Yes, that's why they're all on top of the WCS rankings

How many times Rain and Parting have been abroad in 2014? Flash participated to 1 event yeah!

None of them will be seen at blizzcon.


People are blaming blizzard for the WCS points, but there s only one responsible : KeSPA.


That's not true. KeSPA teams cannot afford to send their players everywhere because there is very little return of investment in doing so. Their sponsors are mostly Korean companies with no interest in overseas tournaments because the viewers there cannot buy their products. KeSPA teams have to focus on Proleague to satisfy their sponsors, or it would be even less of a worthwhile investment than today. To say that KeSPA teams are at fault for doing what they have to do in order to not sink is ignorant.


I don't say they don't have valid reason from their point of view, I just say they just mechanicaly prevent their best players from going to Blizzcon which these players don't seem to appreciate much.

(and in the long run it may hurt them even more if more star player decide to follow Rain and Parting)



I'm sure Kespa gladly sends players to foreign tournaments if the Players pay the flight and lodging out of their own pocket...
Seirously it costs 2000+ Euro per weekend Tournament per player, you dont wanna do this with your whole freaking roster, so its only natural that Kespa doesnt send them to everything like EG/roccat (who does it with 1 single Player only btw) does.
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
September 13 2014 19:34 GMT
#93
I was with Kaoru today, PartinG to Acer is a defitive "no", can remove it from the rumors
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
September 13 2014 19:43 GMT
#94
On September 14 2014 04:34 LeLfe wrote:
I was with Kaoru today, PartinG to Acer is a defitive "no", can remove it from the rumors

so it's still possible for Rain, EffOrt and Hydra? ^_^
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
September 13 2014 19:48 GMT
#95
On September 14 2014 04:43 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 04:34 LeLfe wrote:
I was with Kaoru today, PartinG to Acer is a defitive "no", can remove it from the rumors

so it's still possible for Rain, EffOrt and Hydra? ^_^

nope!
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 13 2014 20:01 GMT
#96
On September 14 2014 04:48 LeLfe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 04:43 Yhamm wrote:
On September 14 2014 04:34 LeLfe wrote:
I was with Kaoru today, PartinG to Acer is a defitive "no", can remove it from the rumors

so it's still possible for Rain, EffOrt and Hydra? ^_^

nope!

Is it possible for someone else ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 21:56:14
September 13 2014 20:06 GMT
#97
PartinG joins Wayi, YFW joins SPL, PartinG doesn't play in the next season of SPL. It's logical.

Edit: also Rain joins Samsung, stays godlike and gets to travel around the world.
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 13 2014 21:23 GMT
#98
On September 13 2014 23:21 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 23:14 Gwavajuice wrote:
On September 13 2014 23:02 GumBa wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:55 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 13 2014 22:45 GumBa wrote:
I just had an idea. Jin Air or CJ Jaedong. They both need a new zerg and JD would be able to get good again

I don't think JD wants be part of kespa again though. He enjoys his freedom


I'm not sure. He enjoys being able to jump all over the world, but he hates losing. I wouldn't be surprised at all (seems likely, even) to see him go back to KeSPA. He knows from experience that the practice regime works, he enjoys playing in Proleague, and so on. Definitely not out of the question.

Which is pretty much not possible if you are on a kespa team.
I don't see it happening, even though i would be extremely happy to see him play to his full potential ( i still think he could be a top3 zerg easily)

If a kespa player qualifies anywhere they are usually allowed to go (iem, RB) and they have sent people to events depending on the team ( dh hsc)



Yes, that's why they're all on top of the WCS rankings

How many times Rain and Parting have been abroad in 2014? Flash participated to 1 event yeah!

None of them will be seen at blizzcon.


People are blaming blizzard for the WCS points, but there s only one responsible : KeSPA.


That's not true. KeSPA teams cannot afford to send their players everywhere because there is very little return of investment in doing so. Their sponsors are mostly Korean companies with no interest in overseas tournaments because the viewers there cannot buy their products. KeSPA teams have to focus on Proleague to satisfy their sponsors, or it would be even less of a worthwhile investment than today. To say that KeSPA teams are at fault for doing what they have to do in order to not sink is ignorant.


Don't they have any foreign stakes they can advertise? Or in Jin Air's case, their parent company. Japan's Softbank, for example, has a stake in Sprint-Nextel and Alibaba. Kespa should seriously try to get more Korean multinational sponsors.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 14 2014 00:17 GMT
#99
On September 14 2014 04:48 LeLfe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 04:43 Yhamm wrote:
On September 14 2014 04:34 LeLfe wrote:
I was with Kaoru today, PartinG to Acer is a defitive "no", can remove it from the rumors

so it's still possible for Rain, EffOrt and Hydra? ^_^

nope!

Guess Acer has decided they don't like winning anymore. So fucking disappointing.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 14 2014 00:54 GMT
#100
Cool thread thanks. Wish we'd see some new blood at Samsung
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