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GuMiho leaves CJ Entus.

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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 09:41:08
September 01 2014 09:13 GMT
#1


CJ Entus roster :
(T)Bbyong
(T)Bunny[Name]
(Z)ByuL
(Z)EffOrt
(P)herO[jOin]
(P)Hush
(Z)Hydra
(T)sKyHigh
(P)Sora
(P)Trust
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 01 2014 09:18 GMT
#2
Non-Korea :/
The heart's eternal vow
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
September 01 2014 09:18 GMT
#3
Whaaat!? =/
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
September 01 2014 09:19 GMT
#4
But he only just joined?

Maybe that monitor did some unseen damage!
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
September 01 2014 09:21 GMT
#5
I don't think many foreign teams are looking for players these days and especially korean players. I don't see him finding a decent team anytime soon.
rly ?
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
September 01 2014 09:25 GMT
#6
Whut
Vasacast always in my <3
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 01 2014 09:27 GMT
#7
He'll probably join MVP in 2 days cause Choya changed his mind

why MKP why
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
September 01 2014 09:27 GMT
#8

If any foreign team is interested in him, DM @MVPChoya.
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
September 01 2014 09:31 GMT
#9
Not that big of a loss for CJ Entus imo, with ByuL joining and Bunny on the rise, GuMiho was their 7th, 8th best player.

Anyway, good luck to him in his future endeavors.
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 09:41:19
September 01 2014 09:38 GMT
#10
Is Bunny playng for CJ Entus? How come, and why have I missed that?

edit: oh I see, original post links to the wrong Bunny.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
September 01 2014 09:40 GMT
#11
On September 01 2014 18:38 Spinoza wrote:
Is Bunny playng for CJ Entus? How come, and why have I missed that?

There is two Bunny, one is the Danish playing for TeamLiquid and the other one is the Korean one playing for CJ Entus.
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Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
September 01 2014 09:41 GMT
#12
Thanks Aeromi.
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GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
September 01 2014 09:43 GMT
#13
On September 01 2014 18:27 Lorning wrote:
He'll probably join MVP in 2 days cause Choya changed his mind

why MKP why

Its Only MK now
I love hellbats
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
September 01 2014 09:43 GMT
#14
Kinda sad tbh i though he was getting better on CJ but oh well
I love hellbats
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
September 01 2014 09:49 GMT
#15
Disappointing, thought he was starting to play pretty well lately.

SkySC2
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany303 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 09:49:26
September 01 2014 09:49 GMT
#16
On September 01 2014 18:27 Lorning wrote:
He'll probably join MVP in 2 days cause Choya changed his mind

why MKP why



hahaha i had the exact same thought ! choya >: (
MarineKing !!
Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
September 01 2014 09:51 GMT
#17
Oh, but he just got there, and he looked like a good solid fight on CJ as well. But in any case, good luck to you, Towel Terran, and look out for killer booths!
Spread your eggs until they crack!
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
September 01 2014 09:55 GMT
#18
Maybe will he join TCM?
Vasacast always in my <3
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
September 01 2014 09:58 GMT
#19
A bit sad about this, but looking forward to see Gumibro in some foreign lineup where he can participate in oversea tournaments.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3753 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 10:06:00
September 01 2014 10:01 GMT
#20
On September 01 2014 18:43 GreenMash wrote:
Kinda sad tbh i though he was getting better on CJ but oh well

Hydra and Effort are not going anywhere and they acquired ByuL. Makes sense. Why did I think he is Z player? o_O
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 10:10:40
September 01 2014 10:10 GMT
#21
On September 01 2014 19:01 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 18:43 GreenMash wrote:
Kinda sad tbh i though he was getting better on CJ but oh well

Hydra and Effort are not going anywhere and they acquired ByuL. Makes sense. Why did I think he is Z player? o_O


passion = zero

anyway I think these korean players looking for foreign teams kind of missed the boat. but this will keep happening so long as there is any possibility of an incentive. if you're buried on your kespa team's depth chart, what looks more appealing: rarely getting fielded in proleague and flaming out in Code A, or getting on a foreign team and finding a relatively comfy premier league spot in Europe/NA and then getting flown to dreamhacks and the like for free WCS points and a shot at some cash? do you think jjakji is going to blizzcon if he's on CJ Entus?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 01 2014 10:11 GMT
#22
Coach park confirmed David Moyes of SC2 world....
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buchaa
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Pakistan77 Posts
September 01 2014 10:21 GMT
#23
gumiho should just come to wcs eu and win it... he'll find a team ... ALTHOUGH PIGBABY STILL IS TEAMLESS
BoxeR, Michael Schumacher, Michael Jordan (Legends never get old)
abei1234
Profile Joined June 2011
United States89 Posts
September 01 2014 10:25 GMT
#24
So there's a CJ Bunny and Liquid Bunny, and a CJ Hero and a Liquid Hero .......
abei1234
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
September 01 2014 10:28 GMT
#25
He wasn't meant to be there anyways.
Fly on my bear and travel the seas !
RIP MKP
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
September 01 2014 10:30 GMT
#26
Shame. Really thought he found a suitable team he could grow in, while also getting to play in Proleague. Best of luck to Gumiho in finding a new team.

On September 01 2014 19:01 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 18:43 GreenMash wrote:
Kinda sad tbh i though he was getting better on CJ but oh well

Hydra and Effort are not going anywhere and they acquired ByuL. Makes sense. Why did I think he is Z player? o_O

Because he looks like Leenock, who is a zerg player.
Flash | Mvp
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3753 Posts
September 01 2014 10:36 GMT
#27
On September 01 2014 19:25 abei1234 wrote:
So there's a CJ Bunny and Liquid Bunny, and a CJ Hero and a Liquid Hero .......

It's CJ herO actually but otherwise yea.

There were also Empire Happy and IM Happy and Fnatic Rain and SKT Rain and - of course - BoxeR`Prime and THE BoxeR.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12702 Posts
September 01 2014 10:40 GMT
#28
Gumiho is a sick pickup for any team imo
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
September 01 2014 10:42 GMT
#29
On September 01 2014 19:11 Pandemona wrote:
Coach park confirmed David Moyes of SC2 world....


Wait and see when coach park leaves, CJ fighting against relegation
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 01 2014 10:43 GMT
#30
Hmm I hope he gets picked up but I don't see it being all that likely unfortunately.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 01 2014 10:48 GMT
#31
I can't see any international team picking up GuMiHo unless they really need a good terran. He doesn't seem to be a very marketable player.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 01 2014 10:58 GMT
#32
On September 01 2014 19:36 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 19:25 abei1234 wrote:
So there's a CJ Bunny and Liquid Bunny, and a CJ Hero and a Liquid Hero .......

It's CJ herO actually but otherwise yea.

There were also Empire Happy and IM Happy and Fnatic Rain and SKT Rain and - of course - BoxeR`Prime and THE BoxeR.

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True and TRUE
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 01 2014 11:14 GMT
#33
Is Choya simply the liaison for people trying to get out of Kespa now?
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
September 01 2014 11:27 GMT
#34
Well CJ didn't even play him, so they do not deserve him.. I hope he can find a team that'll appreciate his team league skills
Costanza9
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada8 Posts
September 01 2014 11:43 GMT
#35
On September 01 2014 20:14 Circumstance wrote:
Is Choya simply the liaison for people trying to get out of Kespa now?


Vengeance for what they did to Byun
"If you're not first, you're last ~" -American Proverb
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
September 01 2014 11:55 GMT
#36
gumiho was on cj? o.o
rip prime
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26496 Posts
September 01 2014 12:10 GMT
#37
Hope he winds up somewhere good, been one of the most entertaining players ever in SC2 for my money.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
September 01 2014 12:11 GMT
#38
great, more Korean stragglers
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 01 2014 12:19 GMT
#39
On September 01 2014 20:55 asdfOu wrote:
gumiho was on cj? o.o

he even beat Zest in Proleague once
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 01 2014 12:24 GMT
#40
On September 01 2014 19:48 Boucot wrote:
I can't see any international team picking up GuMiHo unless they really need a good terran. He doesn't seem to be a very marketable player.

I disagree. I don't think gumiho has ever had a boring game.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 01 2014 12:34 GMT
#41
On September 01 2014 19:30 Ctesias wrote:
Shame. Really thought he found a suitable team he could grow in, while also getting to play in Proleague. Best of luck to Gumiho in finding a new team.

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 19:01 nimdil wrote:
On September 01 2014 18:43 GreenMash wrote:
Kinda sad tbh i though he was getting better on CJ but oh well

Hydra and Effort are not going anywhere and they acquired ByuL. Makes sense. Why did I think he is Z player? o_O

Because he looks like Leenock, who is a zerg player.

i have that same problem... i know who gumiho is but every time im about to watch a match with him in it im thinking "zerg" until it starts and i see the CC
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Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
September 01 2014 12:42 GMT
#42
I want to see more gumibear in tournaments!

The GSL needs to have Code A as a full league similar to Code S, and move down the current Code A to Code B, supporting something like 64 players instead of 32.
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
September 01 2014 12:51 GMT
#43

Hmm?
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
September 01 2014 12:54 GMT
#44
So he joined MVP? Or is he just gonna play PL for them while looking for another team?
I love hellbats
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
September 01 2014 13:00 GMT
#45
On September 01 2014 21:51 TR wrote:
https://twitter.com/MVPChoya/status/506423872443260928
Hmm?

Defature, really? :D
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
September 01 2014 13:00 GMT
#46
So he officially joined MVP -_- Why did he say "non-korea"?
Vasacast always in my <3
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
September 01 2014 13:01 GMT
#47
On September 01 2014 22:00 SuperHofmann wrote:
So he officially joined MVP -_- Why did he say "non-korea"?


Choya tweeted again to clarify that Gumiho wasn't joining MVP, just playing for them in ProLeague.
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
September 01 2014 13:02 GMT
#48


Ok, no MVP
Vasacast always in my <3
t e a C h e r
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada151 Posts
September 01 2014 13:10 GMT
#49
The towel terran has returned!
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
September 01 2014 13:12 GMT
#50
haha

defarture
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3753 Posts
September 01 2014 13:31 GMT
#51
On September 01 2014 21:34 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 19:30 Ctesias wrote:
Shame. Really thought he found a suitable team he could grow in, while also getting to play in Proleague. Best of luck to Gumiho in finding a new team.

On September 01 2014 19:01 nimdil wrote:
On September 01 2014 18:43 GreenMash wrote:
Kinda sad tbh i though he was getting better on CJ but oh well

Hydra and Effort are not going anywhere and they acquired ByuL. Makes sense. Why did I think he is Z player? o_O

Because he looks like Leenock, who is a zerg player.

i have that same problem... i know who gumiho is but every time im about to watch a match with him in it im thinking "zerg" until it starts and i see the CC

After some thinking my conclusion is that in my head it sounds similarly to Yugioh - I wonder to what degree did I mixed these two.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 14:14:45
September 01 2014 14:13 GMT
#52
Makes sense. He doesn't need to be fielded ever and isn't worth the money to be just an extra practice partner.
He was picked up as a back up weapon and ended up not only being unnecessary, but the rest of CJ ended up being awesome as well.

Hope GuMiHo finds a decent team and continues on!
On September 01 2014 22:31 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 21:34 brickrd wrote:
On September 01 2014 19:30 Ctesias wrote:
Shame. Really thought he found a suitable team he could grow in, while also getting to play in Proleague. Best of luck to Gumiho in finding a new team.

On September 01 2014 19:01 nimdil wrote:
On September 01 2014 18:43 GreenMash wrote:
Kinda sad tbh i though he was getting better on CJ but oh well

Hydra and Effort are not going anywhere and they acquired ByuL. Makes sense. Why did I think he is Z player? o_O

Because he looks like Leenock, who is a zerg player.

i have that same problem... i know who gumiho is but every time im about to watch a match with him in it im thinking "zerg" until it starts and i see the CC

After some thinking my conclusion is that in my head it sounds similarly to Yugioh - I wonder to what degree did I mixed these two.

I used to mix him and Leenock with each other =P
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
September 01 2014 16:13 GMT
#53
mYi time to make a move! :D
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
September 01 2014 16:23 GMT
#54
Liquid`Gumiho do ittttttttttttttt
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
gneGne
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands697 Posts
September 01 2014 16:53 GMT
#55
Damn, Gumiho was a key player in CJ's line-up IMO. Oh well..
OldLadyStarCraft
Profile Joined November 2013
United States66 Posts
September 01 2014 17:05 GMT
#56
Just reminds me that we are all getting older as these early SC2 players. It is sad to see people fade away, looking for teams or simply retiring. I wonder what they all end up doing for the rest of their lives. Would be an interesting study.
Good luck Gumiho - there is only one Towel Terran!
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
September 01 2014 17:06 GMT
#57
I forgot that sKyHigh is still in the team.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 01 2014 17:16 GMT
#58
It's going to be really hard to find a team without connections, even the WCS AM champ hasn't found one and it's been 2 months.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
September 01 2014 17:31 GMT
#59
need to stop with this "I want a foreign team only" madness.
moo...for DRG
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
September 01 2014 17:50 GMT
#60
On September 01 2014 18:43 GreenMash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 18:27 Lorning wrote:
He'll probably join MVP in 2 days cause Choya changed his mind

why MKP why

Its Only MK now


Most King Player
maru G5L pls
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 20:05:15
September 01 2014 19:53 GMT
#61
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edit: Good luck wherever you go Gumi!
Horang2 fan
Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
September 01 2014 20:09 GMT
#62
Dang. As a Gumiho fan, I hope he finds a new team and he starts playing again. It's been weird not seeing him as a regular Code S or Proleague player anymore. I hope his best days aren't totally behind him now...
The Devil Terran - The Ambitious Terran - The Towel Terran - The Macro Master Terran - The Tyrant
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
September 01 2014 20:50 GMT
#63
Damnit Gumiho. Sad to see you leave CJ, please don't leave KR
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
September 01 2014 21:23 GMT
#64
good luck finding a foreign team.....
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45430 Posts
September 01 2014 21:26 GMT
#65
(non-korea)

Step it up, foreign teams! Good luck to Gumiho.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
September 01 2014 21:43 GMT
#66
Well that was quick... Seemed like he was just getting involved in the CJ team.
Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 23:24:23
September 01 2014 22:26 GMT
#67
wrong thread.
moo...for DRG
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
September 02 2014 03:55 GMT
#68
More and more Koreans leave the Korean scene and "looking for a foreign team".

But there is just a money problem. The foreign teams have not enough money to get all these korean players who want to join a team outside of Korea/KeSPA.
I can understand the wish to join a team outside of korea, many "foreign korean" streamers have told the ups and downs of the decision. Mostly its about the problem you lose all your social life in a strong korean team. Its eat, train, sleep repeat. Balloon told the difference between startale and mYi, he had to be a robot in his startale time, but now ( in the mYi time ) he could do more then starcraft. And startale wasnt even a SPL team.
But on the money side... while ( now after Prime has a new sponsor ) all SPL teams can pay their players money and not only the free stay at their house, some foreign teams still do not pay their players. Most other foreign teams cant afford a good korean player at the moment without investing alot more. EG does focus on JaeDong and thats it, Liquid, mYi, YoeFW and Axiom have very strong roasters for a foreigner team. Root has investet alot past month, i dont think they can afford more. Smaller teams just cannot afford more atm.
Only GEM ( agency, not a team ) could contract more players and the recent established TCM ( Team cooler master ). But when TCM merges with CMS ( Cooler Master Strom ) there wount be much space either.

Harsh times, more and more players getting on a high level, but there is not enough money for all of them.

And for the pigbaby problem: He does not stream, despite his run and win of WCS AM he is very unknown to most people ( non TL Elite blablah ) and so its hard to get a return of investment with him.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
September 02 2014 11:26 GMT
#69
Non-Korean? Looks like a lot of players are starting to look for a spot in the foreign scene :O
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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
September 02 2014 13:47 GMT
#70
On September 02 2014 20:26 Advantageous wrote:
Non-Korean? Looks like a lot of players are starting to look for a spot in the foreign scene :O


Can you blame them?
They see the likes of MC and Jaedong jetting around the world for easy money.
Rather than staying in the small confines of the team house in Korea with rarely a chance at recognition.
moo...for DRG
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
September 02 2014 14:12 GMT
#71
ohhh no gumiho!
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Detri
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom683 Posts
September 02 2014 22:57 GMT
#72
The poor are thieves, beggars and whores, the rich are politicians, solicitors and courtesans...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 02 2014 23:03 GMT
#73
Good luck to him
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
September 03 2014 00:44 GMT
#74
On September 02 2014 22:47 neoghaleon55 wrote:
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On September 02 2014 20:26 Advantageous wrote:
Non-Korean? Looks like a lot of players are starting to look for a spot in the foreign scene :O


Can you blame them?
They see the likes of MC and Jaedong jetting around the world for easy money.
Rather than staying in the small confines of the team house in Korea with rarely a chance at recognition.


Yep, not like this is a new trend either because a lot of them have been trying to.
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