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On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@ I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included). Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group. Humorously, Cure lost to Bunny (foreign Terran) 0-3 in an online tournament quite recently!
Cure did play well against Zest, but I still have my doubts about him. His play vs Zest was somewhat Maru-ish except he did not display the exceptional micro ability that Maru possesses. He did not delay his third or fourth terribly late, unlike Maru who thinks he can beat every Protoss with only his micro ability. The fact that Cure kept the constant pressure and Zest losing too many stalkers during engagements caused the delay in the Protoss tech to the point at which Terran were able to out macro the other race.
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On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@ I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included). Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group. Humorously, Cure lost to Bunny (foreign Terran) 0-3 in an online tournament quite recently!
I seriously don't think that Cure, despite beating Zest, can really beat players like Rain, or PartinG or Flash in Bo5 's or more those 3's vT MU is crazily strong and solid, however Zest's vT is substantially weaker.
(btw, I know that Cure beat Rain 2-0 in IEM qualifiers, but Rain also beat Cure 2-0 in Code A, so its provably online unluckiness for Rain)
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On August 29 2014 04:33 thekaas wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 04:26 NaboliC wrote:
Did they fell to Code A just by loosing in ro16? Really? That's how it's been for the longest time, really.
Wait, really? Don't they play in UP and Down matches first to determine who stays in code S ?
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On August 29 2014 16:27 Svizcy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 04:33 thekaas wrote:On August 29 2014 04:26 NaboliC wrote:
Did they fell to Code A just by loosing in ro16? Really? That's how it's been for the longest time, really. Wait, really? Don't they play in UP and Down matches first to determine who stays in code S ?
Code A is just like WCS Challanger now, there are only people dropped from code S in the previous season and people that went through the qualifier and it's played all before Code S of course. If you pass the group you get in the ro32, if you lose you must do the qualifier next season. There are actually 24 players from qualifiers and 24 players from Code S, there is no such thing as "Code A player" anymore.
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On August 29 2014 10:57 jellyjello wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@ I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included). Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group. Humorously, Cure lost to Bunny (foreign Terran) 0-3 in an online tournament quite recently! Cure did play well against Zest, but I still have my doubts about him. His play vs Zest was somewhat Maru-ish except he did not display the exceptional micro ability that Maru possesses. He did not delay his third or fourth terribly late, unlike Maru who thinks he can beat every Protoss with only his micro ability. The fact that Cure kept the constant pressure and Zest losing too many stalkers during engagements caused the delay in the Protoss tech to the point at which Terran were able to out macro the other race.
To be honest, Cure not being as micro focused as Maru is not a disadvantage.
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Canada2764 Posts
Cure has a lot of potential moving forward in my eyes. Still, due to him being a royal roader and all, I'll wait until after the Ro8 to jump on the bandwagon, since there's potential for all kinds of things (draws a really tough opponent, nerves, etc.) to stop him right there. I'm not 100% sure how the bracket works (in terms of who faces who in the Ro8), but I'm fairly sure Cure could conceivably topple anyone he faces. Then again, he could also quite easily lose to anyone. Such is the life of a royal roader.
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Does Cure even qualify for Blizzcon if he wins GSL? I think you need more than the 2000 points you get for first place to qualify for Blizzcon from scratch.
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Canada2764 Posts
On August 29 2014 18:58 Grumbels wrote:
Does Cure even qualify for Blizzcon if he wins GSL? I think you need more than the 2000 points you get for first place to qualify for Blizzcon from scratch.
Not by default, it gives him around a ~14% chance (according to WCS Predictor)
However, winning GSL + Red Bull DC would give him a pretty solid chance iirc
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I hope a terran walks the royal road.
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On August 29 2014 09:52 Mistakes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2014 05:51 Blargh wrote:On August 29 2014 05:44 Zealously wrote:On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@ I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included). Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group. I don't think you're ever clearly inferior to a player if you can beat that player in a Bo7 Ehhhhhh... When Soulkey beat Innovation in the finals of GSL, I'd have said that Innovation was still a way better player. Innovation's mistakes in that finals were much smaller than Soulkey's. He definitely proved himself when he won the season finals, defeating sOs 4-0. Even when a player wins a tournament, I can still call them "clearly inferior" to another player, even if they beat said player/s. Wins in SC2 aren't actually a very good representation of skill. Note: When I say "inferior", I am talking about quality of play, skill, etc. I would have never considered Classic's level of play to be truly top-tier, despite him winning a GSL. You're free to feel otherwise, obviously. See my views are completely opposite. I have never seen Innovation as a TOP tier player. He's pretty good, but nothing special. Soulkey on the other hand, is amazing. I love that guy, and probably my favorite player (Bomber is up there too). My excitement for this season just went down a lot. No Soulkey. ='(
Dominates for months. Not top tier. Ok
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