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Code S - Cure and Zest advance to Ro8 - Page 2

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jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
August 29 2014 01:57 GMT
#21
On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:
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On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@

I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included).

Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group.

Humorously, Cure lost to Bunny (foreign Terran) 0-3 in an online tournament quite recently!


Cure did play well against Zest, but I still have my doubts about him. His play vs Zest was somewhat Maru-ish except he did not display the exceptional micro ability that Maru possesses. He did not delay his third or fourth terribly late, unlike Maru who thinks he can beat every Protoss with only his micro ability. The fact that Cure kept the constant pressure and Zest losing too many stalkers during engagements caused the delay in the Protoss tech to the point at which Terran were able to out macro the other race.
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
August 29 2014 06:49 GMT
#22
On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:
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On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@

I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included).

Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group.

Humorously, Cure lost to Bunny (foreign Terran) 0-3 in an online tournament quite recently!

I seriously don't think that Cure, despite beating Zest, can really beat players like Rain, or PartinG or Flash in Bo5 's or more those 3's vT MU is crazily strong and solid, however Zest's vT is substantially weaker.
(btw, I know that Cure beat Rain 2-0 in IEM qualifiers, but Rain also beat Cure 2-0 in Code A, so its provably online unluckiness for Rain)
Svizcy
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovenia300 Posts
August 29 2014 07:27 GMT
#23
On August 29 2014 04:33 thekaas wrote:
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On August 29 2014 04:26 NaboliC wrote:
Did they fell to Code A just by loosing in ro16? Really?

That's how it's been for the longest time, really.


Wait, really? Don't they play in UP and Down matches first to determine who stays in code S ?
eusoc
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy82 Posts
August 29 2014 09:04 GMT
#24
On August 29 2014 16:27 Svizcy wrote:
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On August 29 2014 04:33 thekaas wrote:
On August 29 2014 04:26 NaboliC wrote:
Did they fell to Code A just by loosing in ro16? Really?

That's how it's been for the longest time, really.


Wait, really? Don't they play in UP and Down matches first to determine who stays in code S ?

Code A is just like WCS Challanger now, there are only people dropped from code S in the previous season and people that went through the qualifier and it's played all before Code S of course. If you pass the group you get in the ro32, if you lose you must do the qualifier next season. There are actually 24 players from qualifiers and 24 players from Code S, there is no such thing as "Code A player" anymore.
Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
August 29 2014 09:33 GMT
#25
On August 29 2014 10:57 jellyjello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:
On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@

I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included).

Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group.

Humorously, Cure lost to Bunny (foreign Terran) 0-3 in an online tournament quite recently!


Cure did play well against Zest, but I still have my doubts about him. His play vs Zest was somewhat Maru-ish except he did not display the exceptional micro ability that Maru possesses. He did not delay his third or fourth terribly late, unlike Maru who thinks he can beat every Protoss with only his micro ability. The fact that Cure kept the constant pressure and Zest losing too many stalkers during engagements caused the delay in the Protoss tech to the point at which Terran were able to out macro the other race.


To be honest, Cure not being as micro focused as Maru is not a disadvantage.
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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
August 29 2014 09:41 GMT
#26
Cure has a lot of potential moving forward in my eyes. Still, due to him being a royal roader and all, I'll wait until after the Ro8 to jump on the bandwagon, since there's potential for all kinds of things (draws a really tough opponent, nerves, etc.) to stop him right there. I'm not 100% sure how the bracket works (in terms of who faces who in the Ro8), but I'm fairly sure Cure could conceivably topple anyone he faces. Then again, he could also quite easily lose to anyone. Such is the life of a royal roader.
Writermaru pls
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
August 29 2014 09:58 GMT
#27
Does Cure even qualify for Blizzcon if he wins GSL? I think you need more than the 2000 points you get for first place to qualify for Blizzcon from scratch.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
August 29 2014 10:07 GMT
#28
On August 29 2014 18:58 Grumbels wrote:
Does Cure even qualify for Blizzcon if he wins GSL? I think you need more than the 2000 points you get for first place to qualify for Blizzcon from scratch.


Not by default, it gives him around a ~14% chance (according to WCS Predictor)
However, winning GSL + Red Bull DC would give him a pretty solid chance iirc
Writermaru pls
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 29 2014 10:19 GMT
#29
I hope a terran walks the royal road.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
August 29 2014 11:57 GMT
#30
Grr why do people forget that the warp prism drop with cannon was done by others in WOL

Other than that great write up. GO BICEP TOSS :D
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 29 2014 13:15 GMT
#31
On August 29 2014 09:52 Mistakes wrote:
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On August 29 2014 05:51 Blargh wrote:
On August 29 2014 05:44 Zealously wrote:
On August 29 2014 05:43 Blargh wrote:
On August 29 2014 05:36 Thyrym wrote:
I think Zest will win GSL again... im feeling it @-@

I don't think Zest is performing up to that level, but then again, Classic won the last GSL despite being clearly inferior to many of the other players (soO included).

Currently, Cure or Flash is my favorite to win. Although, this is an unfair comparison since many of the groups were more stacked than Flash's, Flash was the only one to go 4-0 in his group.


I don't think you're ever clearly inferior to a player if you can beat that player in a Bo7

Ehhhhhh... When Soulkey beat Innovation in the finals of GSL, I'd have said that Innovation was still a way better player. Innovation's mistakes in that finals were much smaller than Soulkey's. He definitely proved himself when he won the season finals, defeating sOs 4-0.

Even when a player wins a tournament, I can still call them "clearly inferior" to another player, even if they beat said player/s. Wins in SC2 aren't actually a very good representation of skill.

Note: When I say "inferior", I am talking about quality of play, skill, etc. I would have never considered Classic's level of play to be truly top-tier, despite him winning a GSL. You're free to feel otherwise, obviously.


See my views are completely opposite. I have never seen Innovation as a TOP tier player. He's pretty good, but nothing special. Soulkey on the other hand, is amazing. I love that guy, and probably my favorite player (Bomber is up there too). My excitement for this season just went down a lot. No Soulkey. ='(

Dominates for months. Not top tier. Ok
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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