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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 00:52:11
July 19 2014 00:50 GMT
#61
just out of curiosity, themarine is my favorite caster of all time of all times. reason being this guy really takes this professionally and puts the effort in it. he does a lot of studying of map trends, player-map-race stats, metagame and interview players before the game to understand their mindset in the upcoming game. really good at explaining thought process of the players go through and picking out details of whats going on. are there any particular english caster that approaches casting similarly? the general feeling i get with english caster is they just swing with it when the time comes and not do much preparations. one person i recall that did some research was that one guy in gsl that everyone hated, and perhaps khaldor.
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TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 01:55:42
July 19 2014 01:46 GMT
#62
My favorite casters are the ones who compete at the highest level. I also like non-protoss casters because let's face it double protoss casting a non pvp = meh. I'd consider any caster on this list world class.
1)Tod
2)Nathanias
3)Moonglade
4)Incontrol
5)Demuslim
6)QXC
7)Rotterdam
8)Apollo
9)Artosis
10)Wolf
11)Kalaeris
12)Day 9
13)Tasteless

edit:forgot Incontrol lol
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Dendra
Profile Joined July 2006
Croatia801 Posts
July 19 2014 02:53 GMT
#63
Tasteless-Artosis-Incontrol - the golden trio imo. Apollo and Tod maybe second on that list, not as a pair but in terms of quality.
Believing isnt seeing.Seeing is believing,but may not be reality.
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
July 19 2014 02:57 GMT
#64
Dudes, come on don't forget the best caster in all of Starcraft 2 WoL....

Moletrap!

lol jk...

On topic, I like Rotterdam+anyone. I feel like that guy has great chemistry with any other caster. So here are my fav Rotti+X in no particular order:

Rotti+MrBitter
Rotti+Nathanias
Rotti+ToD
Rotti+Qxc
Rotti+Catz
FXOTheoRy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States519 Posts
July 19 2014 02:57 GMT
#65
khaldor solo cast is my favorite. He may not be a pro player but his game knowledge is awesome and he is always up to date with the metagame. I don't think he gets nearly enough credit for his hard work and great casts
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albis
Profile Joined January 2010
United States652 Posts
July 19 2014 03:08 GMT
#66
I like dj wheats voice. but nothing beats the casting archon. I want to have it as my alarm clock. "It's morning here in San Diego and it's time to get up. Can't mine those minerals from home"
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 03:23:09
July 19 2014 03:22 GMT
#67
I'm probably in the very minority but I like Artosis much more without Tasteless. Also have grown to really love Rotti(and Rotti-board). And player-casters like ToD, Grubby, etc. are always awesome for their insight on the game.

That said, due to my location, I mostly listen to Chinese commentary of Joy and XiaoSe(occasionally with (Z)F91 trolling), which I generally like more than English casters.
Meh
rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
July 19 2014 03:33 GMT
#68
On July 19 2014 02:02 BisuDagger wrote:
Sayle - yes he casted SC2

However, the event that he casted doesn't exist.
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Magggrig
Profile Joined January 2014
56 Posts
July 19 2014 03:58 GMT
#69
No khaldor really ?
Kaizen[7]
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States86 Posts
July 19 2014 04:34 GMT
#70
This thread and the notion of actually "ranking" casters can essentially result in one of two outcomes: a) a ranking system is created by the community that ultimately enriches the fan experience and gives casters tangible criteria to strive towards improving. (b) We ultimately decide that casting is inherently impossible to objectively rank, bias towards casters will always exist for some reason or another and in the end this thread pretty much amounts to mental masturbation, the likes of which already exists in sufficient quantity all over the internet.

Honestly, I think we have to ask ourselves if there is some kind of objective criteria that can be used to "rank" casters. If some tangible and objective criteria can be quantified then indeed, some kind of ranking system is not only possible but also potentially beneficial for the game.

For instance, aspiring casters can have something specific to work towards in terms of knowing how to deliver the kind of commentary that the fans love to hear. The feedback such a system could potentially create would result in a new standard of casting being established. A higher standard of casting results in a richer experience for the fans which in turn results in more fans watching more events and so on and so forth.

If there is some kind of list to strive towards being included on, casters will have an increased incentive to deliver a high quality performance that results in them being included on such a list, thus increasing their exposure.

If the interaction between those who deliver viewing experiences and those who watch them can result in a definite and observable improvement in the fan experience, similar systems and feedback sessions could be applied to the entirety of the e-sports world and ultimately change the paradigm companies like Blizzard use to improve their products. In fact, not only companies like Blizzard but anyone who regularly puts together events or casts games would stand to benefit.

So then, what objective criteria can be applied to ranking a casters performance? I haven't perused the entire thread yet but from the conclusions I can draw at this point, establishing objective ranking criteria for casting is going to be nigh impossible. I'm going to think a bit more about this though because it could seriously help the scene if it can be done. But can it be done?

Are there any casters out there who can offer anything in regards to what they strive to do when they cast? Do they feel that its possible to "rank" performance in an objective way?
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
July 19 2014 04:36 GMT
#71
1. Moletrap
2. Painuser and his co caster (cant remember his name)
3. CatsPajamas

+ Show Spoiler +
lol
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LingBlingBling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States353 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 05:30:24
July 19 2014 05:29 GMT
#72
Nathanais best caster ever Kappa I really do love Nathanais these days over majority of the the current casters.

User was warned for this post
Remember our motto: We ain't got it.
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
July 19 2014 05:39 GMT
#73
whiplash and SNM were an amazing combo that nobody has mentioned yet.
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sc2isnotdying
Profile Joined June 2014
United States200 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 16:22:07
July 19 2014 16:01 GMT
#74
On July 19 2014 13:34 Kaizen[7] wrote:

So then, what objective criteria can be applied to ranking a casters performance? I haven't perused the entire thread yet but from the conclusions I can draw at this point, establishing objective ranking criteria for casting is going to be nigh impossible. I'm going to think a bit more about this though because it could seriously help the scene if it can be done. But can it be done?


I don't know if it's possible to "rank" performance, but it is possible to discuss it. The power rankings are supposed to prompt discussion. In theory there should be a place in the community where casters can get critical feedback from their audience. A place where they can see what people like. The problem is, on the internet, criticism often devolves into name calling. If we keep things positive and constructive, we should be able to avoid that.

The reason I think Tastosis is the best team in SC2 is because they have a strong dynamic. The heart of any broadcasting team is interplay between the play by play guy and the expert. The play by play guy translates the game action into a narrative while the expert provides insight and color. In Starcraft it helps if the play by play guy has high game knowledge which Tasteless certainly does, but he knows to defer to Artosis as the expert and Artosis is arguably the caster with the highest game knowledge in the scene. They never forget to set the stakes and bring the hype and they seem to be enjoying themselves.

That's what I like, but there's nothing objective about it. The rankings are just a popularity contest to gather people's opinions on casters in one place. Popularity contests tend to be the mechanism on which entertainment media is ranked. I can't promise the rankings on this thread will directly correlate with popularity in the community but I'll do my best to see that the rankings reflect who's popular with people who have posted on this thread.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
July 19 2014 16:03 GMT
#75
Why doesn't Mr. Bitter co commentate with Rotterdam anymore?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
July 19 2014 16:04 GMT
#76
On July 19 2014 13:36 BreakfastBurrito wrote:
1. Moletrap
2. Painuser and his co caster (cant remember his name)
3. CatsPajamas

+ Show Spoiler +
lol


PainUser and Gretorp? :p What ever happened to CatsPajamas?
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51491 Posts
July 19 2014 16:04 GMT
#77
My personal one is always;

Tastosis - 1
Bitterdam - 2 (no longer in action )

That was about it, i liked that one MLG i think it was where Artosis Day 9 and Tasteless where swapping around or might not of even been those might of been some other tourney. And that was great fun.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
July 19 2014 16:07 GMT
#78
One name I haven't seen a lot so far is Totalbiscuit. He's not the best of the best as a solo caster, but pair him with an analysis-oriented caster like Artosis or one of the pro players and I think the synergy is awesome.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 16:20:36
July 19 2014 16:18 GMT
#79
wrong thread
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
July 19 2014 16:23 GMT
#80
Idra was pretty good back when he casted.
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