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elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 12:17:02
June 18 2014 11:56 GMT
#101
If this is an SKT vs SKT finals then oov coaches sOo and Doctor K for Classic?




SKT [image loading] is still the best [image loading]
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
June 18 2014 12:01 GMT
#102
On June 18 2014 20:23 MiCroLiFe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 17:56 ValM wrote:
On June 18 2014 17:49 Trasko wrote:
On June 18 2014 17:43 deacon.frost wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote:
everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.

I know, I agree, but...

Maru plays like a madman! His stuff is just insanely wonderful to watch, he's not just another boring Terran who just "cannot" attack in early game. Maru attacks, wins and looks like he doesn't even care

As much as I don't like TvX and find it pretty boring, because all the time all the same, I love how unpredictable Maru is


Exactly. Maru's Terran is something special! He always brings something interesting to the table.


He's like an integration and culmination of all terrans before him. The micro of MKP, the strategising and balls of Mvp and the multitasking of MMA. Its almost like he's the Cell of SC2.

but hes not as solid as Taeja


I like Taeja.... Im not sure if he would have the success he's had if he was playing in SPL or GSL... just my opinion.
www.twitch.tv/jornada28 Master Protoss. Follow me on Twitter for SC2 Updates https://twitter.com/#!/elelvlent
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
June 18 2014 12:22 GMT
#103
On June 18 2014 20:56 elmerpogs wrote:
If this is an SKT vs SKT finals then oov coaches sOo and Doctor K for Classic?




SKT [image loading] is still the best [image loading]

man..... that hurtsT_T
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
LingBlingBling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States353 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 13:40:06
June 18 2014 13:39 GMT
#104
On June 18 2014 20:23 MiCroLiFe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 17:56 ValM wrote:
On June 18 2014 17:49 Trasko wrote:
On June 18 2014 17:43 deacon.frost wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote:
everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.

I know, I agree, but...

Maru plays like a madman! His stuff is just insanely wonderful to watch, he's not just another boring Terran who just "cannot" attack in early game. Maru attacks, wins and looks like he doesn't even care

As much as I don't like TvX and find it pretty boring, because all the time all the same, I love how unpredictable Maru is


Exactly. Maru's Terran is something special! He always brings something interesting to the table.


He's like an integration and culmination of all terrans before him. The micro of MKP, the strategising and balls of Mvp and the multitasking of MMA. Its almost like he's the Cell of SC2.

but hes not as solid as Taeja


Taeja plays in a much easier region and environment. Teaja does not hit players like Zest, or any of the top SKT1 protosses.

I have hard time believing Teaja would even make it past round of 32 in code S if he returned to Korea region.

Really annoying saying " look at Teaja and polt terrans doing good" Can't compare them, they are owning lesser Koreans outside of Korea and NA/EU players in their WCS groups.

Maru is prob the most solid overall Terran in the world......
Remember our motto: We ain't got it.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
June 18 2014 14:03 GMT
#105
On June 18 2014 22:39 LingBlingBling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 20:23 MiCroLiFe wrote:
On June 18 2014 17:56 ValM wrote:
On June 18 2014 17:49 Trasko wrote:
On June 18 2014 17:43 deacon.frost wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote:
everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.

I know, I agree, but...

Maru plays like a madman! His stuff is just insanely wonderful to watch, he's not just another boring Terran who just "cannot" attack in early game. Maru attacks, wins and looks like he doesn't even care

As much as I don't like TvX and find it pretty boring, because all the time all the same, I love how unpredictable Maru is


Exactly. Maru's Terran is something special! He always brings something interesting to the table.


He's like an integration and culmination of all terrans before him. The micro of MKP, the strategising and balls of Mvp and the multitasking of MMA. Its almost like he's the Cell of SC2.

but hes not as solid as Taeja


Taeja plays in a much easier region and environment. Teaja does not hit players like Zest, or any of the top SKT1 protosses.

I have hard time believing Teaja would even make it past round of 32 in code S if he returned to Korea region.

Really annoying saying " look at Teaja and polt terrans doing good" Can't compare them, they are owning lesser Koreans outside of Korea and NA/EU players in their WCS groups.

Maru is prob the most solid overall Terran in the world......

While all you say is true, that doesn't explain a perfect run in a Major Tournament like Dreamhack, where he had a 17-0 Mapscore.
Even the best player should lose 1 or 2 maps to cheese or misread or whatever.
WhiteZetsu
Profile Joined June 2014
11 Posts
June 18 2014 14:31 GMT
#106
While all you say is true, that doesn't explain a perfect run in a Major Tournament like Dreamhack, where he had a 17-0 Mapscore.
Even the best player should lose 1 or 2 maps to cheese or misread or whatever.


Taeja was playing against inferior competition, what is so hard to understand.
sunship
Profile Joined March 2014
9 Posts
June 18 2014 14:43 GMT
#107
On June 18 2014 23:31 WhiteZetsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
While all you say is true, that doesn't explain a perfect run in a Major Tournament like Dreamhack, where he had a 17-0 Mapscore.
Even the best player should lose 1 or 2 maps to cheese or misread or whatever.


Taeja was playing against inferior competition, what is so hard to understand.


The average tournament viewer doesn't like looking at the rosters of tournaments such as Dreamhack and being told that level of play there is basically equivalent to Code A (and not Code S), even if it's accurate, and that one of their favorite players (if not favorite, considering these forums) would not look nearly as "dominating" in a different region, even if it's accurate.
Theosiel
Profile Joined June 2014
France9 Posts
June 18 2014 15:07 GMT
#108
Taeja was playing against inferior competition


Which means he should consider giving GSL another try, don't you think? Because this dreamhack had something very close to the best players competing outside Korea
In my opinion he should be facing players like soO, Soulkey, Maru, Zest or herO, not foreigners or exiled Koreans.

And it would be great to see more than one Terran in the Ro8 =)
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 15:32:13
June 18 2014 15:31 GMT
#109
On June 19 2014 00:07 Theosiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
Taeja was playing against inferior competition


Which means he should consider giving GSL another try, don't you think? Because this dreamhack had something very close to the best players competing outside Korea
In my opinion he should be facing players like soO, Soulkey, Maru, Zest or herO, not foreigners or exiled Koreans.

And it would be great to see more than one Terran in the Ro8 =)


if u are winning so much in foreign events why go back to korea? GSL is too volatile, u fuck up one match in Code A and u will receive no attention for 3 months until the next season.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
June 18 2014 15:45 GMT
#110
On June 19 2014 00:31 Xinzoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 00:07 Theosiel wrote:
Taeja was playing against inferior competition


Which means he should consider giving GSL another try, don't you think? Because this dreamhack had something very close to the best players competing outside Korea
In my opinion he should be facing players like soO, Soulkey, Maru, Zest or herO, not foreigners or exiled Koreans.

And it would be great to see more than one Terran in the Ro8 =)


if u are winning so much in foreign events why go back to korea? GSL is too volatile, u fuck up one match in Code A and u will receive no attention for 3 months until the next season.


We need a GSL every month, then :D
Estancia
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)335 Posts
June 18 2014 16:07 GMT
#111
On June 19 2014 00:45 silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 00:31 Xinzoe wrote:
On June 19 2014 00:07 Theosiel wrote:
Taeja was playing against inferior competition


Which means he should consider giving GSL another try, don't you think? Because this dreamhack had something very close to the best players competing outside Korea
In my opinion he should be facing players like soO, Soulkey, Maru, Zest or herO, not foreigners or exiled Koreans.

And it would be great to see more than one Terran in the Ro8 =)


if u are winning so much in foreign events why go back to korea? GSL is too volatile, u fuck up one match in Code A and u will receive no attention for 3 months until the next season.


We need a GSL every month, then :D


I think its better to have more competitions than just having GSL over and over again.
Remember at the peak of BW there were OSL, MSL and GomTV invitationals/showmatches? That would help players staying in Korea much more. Recent Shoutcraft Invitational was really good, helped top tier Korean players show off their skills, and such.
Another thing that can help korean scene would be to have foreign tournaments have fully paid/sponsored trips for the players (hint hint HSC), but then this would be kinda too expensive and even when its implemented it would only be for top 1/2 players of the qualifier, so it will still be hard for newer players to get exposure.

Or maybe even having SCII scene in China grow, and have some chinese tournaments might help Korean scene more too. Its much cheaper to travel to china for tournaments than to go all the way to NA or europe, and probably will allow more Korean players to go overseas for competitions.
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
June 18 2014 16:17 GMT
#112
Incoming finals to be held at Gangnam Studio again?LOL if that's going to happen.
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
June 18 2014 16:22 GMT
#113
On June 19 2014 01:07 Estancia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 00:45 silvana wrote:
On June 19 2014 00:31 Xinzoe wrote:
On June 19 2014 00:07 Theosiel wrote:
Taeja was playing against inferior competition


Which means he should consider giving GSL another try, don't you think? Because this dreamhack had something very close to the best players competing outside Korea
In my opinion he should be facing players like soO, Soulkey, Maru, Zest or herO, not foreigners or exiled Koreans.

And it would be great to see more than one Terran in the Ro8 =)


if u are winning so much in foreign events why go back to korea? GSL is too volatile, u fuck up one match in Code A and u will receive no attention for 3 months until the next season.


We need a GSL every month, then :D


I think its better to have more competitions than just having GSL over and over again.
Remember at the peak of BW there were OSL, MSL and GomTV invitationals/showmatches? That would help players staying in Korea much more. Recent Shoutcraft Invitational was really good, helped top tier Korean players show off their skills, and such.
Another thing that can help korean scene would be to have foreign tournaments have fully paid/sponsored trips for the players (hint hint HSC), but then this would be kinda too expensive and even when its implemented it would only be for top 1/2 players of the qualifier, so it will still be hard for newer players to get exposure.

Or maybe even having SCII scene in China grow, and have some chinese tournaments might help Korean scene more too. Its much cheaper to travel to china for tournaments than to go all the way to NA or europe, and probably will allow more Korean players to go overseas for competitions.


I totally agree, more tournaments in Korea would be better than monthly GSL. If TB manages to make Shoutcraft KR a regular thing, it's a good start and maybe it encourages other organizations to host their own tourneys too.

I don't think that having the trip to western tournaments fully paid would help that much, because I think the main reason for the players not attending is PL, at least for the key players (which are the ones we want to see). For example, Roro and TY went to DH due to the top ranked players not accepting the offer. But you are right about the scene growing in China would help too. Again, TB showed us in the Shoutcraft post mortem than, as a tournament organizer, you HAVE to include China.

So... time to learn Chinese I guess?
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