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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
April 16 2014 20:56 GMT
#61
On April 17 2014 04:06 Yakikorosu wrote:
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On April 17 2014 03:58 sharkie wrote:
On April 17 2014 03:51 Yakikorosu wrote:
On April 17 2014 02:12 stuchiu wrote:
On April 16 2014 23:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 16 2014 23:42 marvellosity wrote:
On April 16 2014 21:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:58 Waxangel wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:40 Dodgin wrote:
wow I didn't realize the gsl global tournament prize pool was so awful until now


It relied on the community for the prizepool, which in SC2 is generally a mistake. That said they went about promoting it in completely the wrong way.

It's hilarious really looking at the quality of the player pool, which will be far better than Dreamhacks.


esp a mistake since they asked for it after killing their old website and offering a markedly worse product


Yup. I cancelled my GOM sub after that. I was paying to avoid Twitch and have decent VoDs, neither of which GOMexp facilitates.

I guess there's quite a few people like this, I'm the same. Just so many things wrong that I'm not willing to give a second chance, even though I've been subbing for years now with GOM.


If they continue to use Twitch then it's simply not fixable, Twitchs vods are terrible both in terms of performance and organization.


Their old Vod system was the best in SC2 D:


This is why now you use http://clash.gg/vods/gsl

I wish GOMeXP would ditch trying to include WCS EU/NA people and just make a tournament from the players left in Korea. We'd have stronger representation. Do some sort of fun hybrid like top 4 GSL finishes, top 4 SPL players, and then some open bracket spots.

As it is though, there might be a step down in name brand recognition from MC and HyuN to San and Alicia/Revival but frankly I don't think the skill level is that different. Heck overall I think San is a stronger player than MC these days.


WCS EU showed us that MC is probably still better than San.


...I really don't think it's as simple as "MMA beat San in one Bo5 and MC beat MMA in one Bo7 so MC is obviously better than San."

* Aligulac currently ranks San #2 in the world. MC is ranked #12 in the world.

* In head-to-head in HotS, San leads 6-3.

* San's all-time win % is 65%, MC's is 61%. But more importantly, in the games that are most relevant to figuring out how good they are now (only HotS games, only against other Koreans, and only offline), San has a 60% win percentage and MC has a 44% win percentage.

I would argue by objective measures San is almost clearly better than MC right now. San just hasn't been eating foreigners for breakfast for as many years as MC has so he doesn't have the cash and fame yet.

Especially since MC plays a risky aggressive style of Protoss. At SeatStory Cup he didn't even make it out of his group, losing to Bunny and Harstem.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
April 16 2014 21:45 GMT
#62
it's really dumb that this is only a T3 event. that's really all that needs to be said.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 16 2014 21:48 GMT
#63
I just wish they had made something real global insted of inviting 6Koreans and holding a Korean qualifier for the other 10spots. Really not ad attractive as Korea vs The World or just watching a foreigner underdog battling his way into a semifinals of some international tournament.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
April 16 2014 21:54 GMT
#64
On April 17 2014 06:48 Big J wrote:
I just wish they had made something real global insted of inviting 6Koreans and holding a Korean qualifier for the other 10spots. Really not ad attractive as Korea vs The World or just watching a foreigner underdog battling his way into a semifinals of some international tournament.

the qualifier wasn't just for koreans, it was open to foreigners too
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 16 2014 22:27 GMT
#65
On April 17 2014 06:54 Die4Ever wrote:
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On April 17 2014 06:48 Big J wrote:
I just wish they had made something real global insted of inviting 6Koreans and holding a Korean qualifier for the other 10spots. Really not ad attractive as Korea vs The World or just watching a foreigner underdog battling his way into a semifinals of some international tournament.

the qualifier wasn't just for koreans, it was open to foreigners too

that is technically true, but they did play it on the Korean server on times convenient for Koreans. not saying foreigners would've necessarily made it through that field otherwise, but the conditions did not exactly help them.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 16 2014 22:30 GMT
#66
On April 17 2014 07:27 Schelim wrote:
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On April 17 2014 06:54 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 17 2014 06:48 Big J wrote:
I just wish they had made something real global insted of inviting 6Koreans and holding a Korean qualifier for the other 10spots. Really not ad attractive as Korea vs The World or just watching a foreigner underdog battling his way into a semifinals of some international tournament.

the qualifier wasn't just for koreans, it was open to foreigners too

that is technically true, but they did play it on the Korean server on times convenient for Koreans. not saying foreigners would've necessarily made it through that field otherwise, but the conditions did not exactly help them.

Poor foreigners
I mean cmon if they don't even try they don't deserve any better...
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 22:39:49
April 16 2014 22:39 GMT
#67
I would have loved to see a variant on Arena of Legends Team Ace Invitational (each team in Korea sends a player chosen by the team), except do it offline (previous AoLs were all online), except also let top foreign teams nominate players (who'd also have to travel to Korea). I feel like between the Korean teams, the top EU teams (Liquid, mYi, Yoe, Acer, Axiom, etc) and EG we'd have a pretty sick lineup.

Just an idea for next time!
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 16 2014 22:40 GMT
#68
On April 17 2014 06:54 Die4Ever wrote:
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On April 17 2014 06:48 Big J wrote:
I just wish they had made something real global insted of inviting 6Koreans and holding a Korean qualifier for the other 10spots. Really not ad attractive as Korea vs The World or just watching a foreigner underdog battling his way into a semifinals of some international tournament.

the qualifier wasn't just for koreans, it was open to foreigners too

Didnt say differently. My point is: this is a one week/weekend all Korean tournament. Less attractive and prestigeous than GSL/Proleague. And not global at all.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 16 2014 22:42 GMT
#69
On April 17 2014 07:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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On April 17 2014 07:27 Schelim wrote:
On April 17 2014 06:54 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 17 2014 06:48 Big J wrote:
I just wish they had made something real global insted of inviting 6Koreans and holding a Korean qualifier for the other 10spots. Really not ad attractive as Korea vs The World or just watching a foreigner underdog battling his way into a semifinals of some international tournament.

the qualifier wasn't just for koreans, it was open to foreigners too

that is technically true, but they did play it on the Korean server on times convenient for Koreans. not saying foreigners would've necessarily made it through that field otherwise, but the conditions did not exactly help them.

Poor foreigners
I mean cmon if they don't even try they don't deserve any better...

Why would they try? There is a better tournament to go to at the same time. No use playing qualifiers for a tournament you wont ve able to attend anyways.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 16 2014 22:54 GMT
#70
On April 17 2014 07:42 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 07:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 17 2014 07:27 Schelim wrote:
On April 17 2014 06:54 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 17 2014 06:48 Big J wrote:
I just wish they had made something real global insted of inviting 6Koreans and holding a Korean qualifier for the other 10spots. Really not ad attractive as Korea vs The World or just watching a foreigner underdog battling his way into a semifinals of some international tournament.

the qualifier wasn't just for koreans, it was open to foreigners too

that is technically true, but they did play it on the Korean server on times convenient for Koreans. not saying foreigners would've necessarily made it through that field otherwise, but the conditions did not exactly help them.

Poor foreigners
I mean cmon if they don't even try they don't deserve any better...

Why would they try? There is a better tournament to go to at the same time. No use playing qualifiers for a tournament you wont ve able to attend anyways.

Well that is a fair point, all i am saying is that "bad timeslots" and "on kr server" are rather bad arguments if koreans do this all the time.Obviously your point is plausible.
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usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
April 17 2014 01:21 GMT
#71
Sorry for being stupid but what tournament is this? Is it some special occasion thing or does it regularly come to pass?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 17 2014 01:22 GMT
#72
On April 17 2014 10:21 usethis2 wrote:
Sorry for being stupid but what tournament is this? Is it some special occasion thing or does it regularly come to pass?

It's a special event Gom is doing between seasons 1 and 2. As far as I know it won't be a regular thing
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usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
April 17 2014 04:00 GMT
#73
Thank you, Shellshock.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3710 Posts
April 17 2014 10:20 GMT
#74
On April 17 2014 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 07:42 Big J wrote:
On April 17 2014 07:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 17 2014 07:27 Schelim wrote:
On April 17 2014 06:54 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 17 2014 06:48 Big J wrote:
I just wish they had made something real global insted of inviting 6Koreans and holding a Korean qualifier for the other 10spots. Really not ad attractive as Korea vs The World or just watching a foreigner underdog battling his way into a semifinals of some international tournament.

the qualifier wasn't just for koreans, it was open to foreigners too

that is technically true, but they did play it on the Korean server on times convenient for Koreans. not saying foreigners would've necessarily made it through that field otherwise, but the conditions did not exactly help them.

Poor foreigners
I mean cmon if they don't even try they don't deserve any better...

Why would they try? There is a better tournament to go to at the same time. No use playing qualifiers for a tournament you wont ve able to attend anyways.

Well that is a fair point, all i am saying is that "bad timeslots" and "on kr server" are rather bad arguments if koreans do this all the time.Obviously your point is plausible.


Plus this isn't really meant to bring foreigners to Korea, despite the name. It's only called Global because they want players from all three WCS regions. This is mainly to have Koreans compete in a GOM tournament who left to play abroad or those who are not playing in GSL despite being in Korea.
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