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Aridhol
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany59 Posts
April 16 2014 14:57 GMT
#41
I would have done the same as MC and HyuN, easier money and very short distance,
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 16 2014 15:04 GMT
#42
On April 16 2014 23:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
As a fan which do you guys think has more glory associated with the win? A Dreamhack or this?


This. But you have more glory winning a DH than placing 2-32 in this.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
April 16 2014 17:06 GMT
#43
i 'm feeling a lot more hyped about DH than bout this gom tournament.

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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 16 2014 17:12 GMT
#44
On April 16 2014 23:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 23:42 marvellosity wrote:
On April 16 2014 21:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:58 Waxangel wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:40 Dodgin wrote:
wow I didn't realize the gsl global tournament prize pool was so awful until now


It relied on the community for the prizepool, which in SC2 is generally a mistake. That said they went about promoting it in completely the wrong way.

It's hilarious really looking at the quality of the player pool, which will be far better than Dreamhacks.


esp a mistake since they asked for it after killing their old website and offering a markedly worse product


Yup. I cancelled my GOM sub after that. I was paying to avoid Twitch and have decent VoDs, neither of which GOMexp facilitates.

I guess there's quite a few people like this, I'm the same. Just so many things wrong that I'm not willing to give a second chance, even though I've been subbing for years now with GOM.


If they continue to use Twitch then it's simply not fixable, Twitchs vods are terrible both in terms of performance and organization.


Their old Vod system was the best in SC2 D:
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
April 16 2014 17:19 GMT
#45
On April 16 2014 23:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
As a fan which do you guys think has more glory associated with the win? A Dreamhack or this?

Seems like more and more players are leaning towards money over pride. To those that would respond "but they need money to live!", MC makes enough.. I'm sure Hyun is making enough, also considering he just won 25k or something last week. Many many players would love to play in this GSL thing, and here we have players like "Welp, better go beat some foreigners and get top 8 minimum. Thanks for being bad guys, I love money!"
Refer to my post.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 17:36:51
April 16 2014 17:28 GMT
#46
On April 16 2014 21:10 Mifoi123 wrote:
Why would MC and Hyun not decline a smaller prize pool?
Does anyone think that korea still has the best REGION for talent? With all the biggest names going to EU and NA what is left in korea sure is lack lustered! That is what happens when you HAD the best players but now only have what is left!


Not sure if serious? Korea still has the best talent. MC/Hyun are going to DH because it has a larger prize pool AND easier competition. There's really only a handful of "big name" koreans spread throughout eu/na.
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MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 17:31:26
April 16 2014 17:30 GMT
#47
On April 17 2014 02:19 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 23:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
As a fan which do you guys think has more glory associated with the win? A Dreamhack or this?

Seems like more and more players are leaning towards money over pride. To those that would respond "but they need money to live!", MC makes enough.. I'm sure Hyun is making enough, also considering he just won 25k or something last week. Many many players would love to play in this GSL thing, and here we have players like "Welp, better go beat some foreigners and get top 8 minimum. Thanks for being bad guys, I love money!"


People like you piss me off, who are you to judge why a progamer is doing something with the intent of money vs pride. They could have reservations booked in advance their could be a host of other things that we dont know about. But instead you choose to badmouth two great players who work hard. Also if people want to play in gsl, they should just qualify. Instead of bitching about peoples choices who qualified but choose not to go.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 17:38:50
April 16 2014 17:34 GMT
#48
On April 16 2014 22:12 Dingodile wrote:
DH: 25k prizepool, tier2 and 2day tournament.
GSL: 10k, tier3 and 7day tournament.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_GSL_Global_Championship#Prize_Pool
it's $18,500 not 10k
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 16 2014 17:38 GMT
#49
looking like a good tournament. Group A is much more stacked in terms of fan favorites than Group B though haha (for the online qualifier dudes).
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
April 16 2014 17:40 GMT
#50
Hack and Squirtle? Impact and Action? Why?
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
April 16 2014 17:49 GMT
#51
On April 17 2014 02:40 geokilla wrote:
Hack and Squirtle? Impact and Action? Why?


Because they won the open qualifiers, all of them defeating incredibly talented, established names along the way.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
April 16 2014 18:20 GMT
#52
Yeah, when you try to mimic other community driven tournament prize pools, the service or product that the fans buy has to be both reasonably priced and worthwhile.

GOMeXp is neither, unfortunately. Cut the price in half and more people would buy, but the SC2
Community is stingy and afraid of being burned on a lackluster product.

Anyways, sad that the lineup for the tourney is inconsistent and the players who qualified have no desire in going, really ruins the whole thing.

But goooo Revival!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17683 Posts
April 16 2014 18:25 GMT
#53
Hyun, you were supposed to take the #2 headband to korea
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 16 2014 18:27 GMT
#54
On April 17 2014 03:20 vult wrote:
Yeah, when you try to mimic other community driven tournament prize pools, the service or product that the fans buy has to be both reasonably priced and worthwhile.

GOMeXp is neither, unfortunately. Cut the price in half and more people would buy, but the SC2
Community is stingy and afraid of being burned on a lackluster product.

Anyways, sad that the lineup for the tourney is inconsistent and the players who qualified have no desire in going, really ruins the whole thing.

But goooo Revival!


it's funny because there are so many players in code A who would kill for those spots too ;o
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
April 16 2014 18:51 GMT
#55
On April 17 2014 02:12 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 23:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 16 2014 23:42 marvellosity wrote:
On April 16 2014 21:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:58 Waxangel wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:40 Dodgin wrote:
wow I didn't realize the gsl global tournament prize pool was so awful until now


It relied on the community for the prizepool, which in SC2 is generally a mistake. That said they went about promoting it in completely the wrong way.

It's hilarious really looking at the quality of the player pool, which will be far better than Dreamhacks.


esp a mistake since they asked for it after killing their old website and offering a markedly worse product


Yup. I cancelled my GOM sub after that. I was paying to avoid Twitch and have decent VoDs, neither of which GOMexp facilitates.

I guess there's quite a few people like this, I'm the same. Just so many things wrong that I'm not willing to give a second chance, even though I've been subbing for years now with GOM.


If they continue to use Twitch then it's simply not fixable, Twitchs vods are terrible both in terms of performance and organization.


Their old Vod system was the best in SC2 D:


This is why now you use http://clash.gg/vods/gsl

I wish GOMeXP would ditch trying to include WCS EU/NA people and just make a tournament from the players left in Korea. We'd have stronger representation. Do some sort of fun hybrid like top 4 GSL finishes, top 4 SPL players, and then some open bracket spots.

As it is though, there might be a step down in name brand recognition from MC and HyuN to San and Alicia/Revival but frankly I don't think the skill level is that different. Heck overall I think San is a stronger player than MC these days.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18476 Posts
April 16 2014 18:58 GMT
#56
On April 17 2014 03:51 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 02:12 stuchiu wrote:
On April 16 2014 23:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 16 2014 23:42 marvellosity wrote:
On April 16 2014 21:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:58 Waxangel wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:40 Dodgin wrote:
wow I didn't realize the gsl global tournament prize pool was so awful until now


It relied on the community for the prizepool, which in SC2 is generally a mistake. That said they went about promoting it in completely the wrong way.

It's hilarious really looking at the quality of the player pool, which will be far better than Dreamhacks.


esp a mistake since they asked for it after killing their old website and offering a markedly worse product


Yup. I cancelled my GOM sub after that. I was paying to avoid Twitch and have decent VoDs, neither of which GOMexp facilitates.

I guess there's quite a few people like this, I'm the same. Just so many things wrong that I'm not willing to give a second chance, even though I've been subbing for years now with GOM.


If they continue to use Twitch then it's simply not fixable, Twitchs vods are terrible both in terms of performance and organization.


Their old Vod system was the best in SC2 D:


This is why now you use http://clash.gg/vods/gsl

I wish GOMeXP would ditch trying to include WCS EU/NA people and just make a tournament from the players left in Korea. We'd have stronger representation. Do some sort of fun hybrid like top 4 GSL finishes, top 4 SPL players, and then some open bracket spots.

As it is though, there might be a step down in name brand recognition from MC and HyuN to San and Alicia/Revival but frankly I don't think the skill level is that different. Heck overall I think San is a stronger player than MC these days.


WCS EU showed us that MC is probably still better than San.
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 19:12:21
April 16 2014 19:06 GMT
#57
On April 17 2014 03:58 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 03:51 Yakikorosu wrote:
On April 17 2014 02:12 stuchiu wrote:
On April 16 2014 23:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 16 2014 23:42 marvellosity wrote:
On April 16 2014 21:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:58 Waxangel wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 16 2014 20:40 Dodgin wrote:
wow I didn't realize the gsl global tournament prize pool was so awful until now


It relied on the community for the prizepool, which in SC2 is generally a mistake. That said they went about promoting it in completely the wrong way.

It's hilarious really looking at the quality of the player pool, which will be far better than Dreamhacks.


esp a mistake since they asked for it after killing their old website and offering a markedly worse product


Yup. I cancelled my GOM sub after that. I was paying to avoid Twitch and have decent VoDs, neither of which GOMexp facilitates.

I guess there's quite a few people like this, I'm the same. Just so many things wrong that I'm not willing to give a second chance, even though I've been subbing for years now with GOM.


If they continue to use Twitch then it's simply not fixable, Twitchs vods are terrible both in terms of performance and organization.


Their old Vod system was the best in SC2 D:


This is why now you use http://clash.gg/vods/gsl

I wish GOMeXP would ditch trying to include WCS EU/NA people and just make a tournament from the players left in Korea. We'd have stronger representation. Do some sort of fun hybrid like top 4 GSL finishes, top 4 SPL players, and then some open bracket spots.

As it is though, there might be a step down in name brand recognition from MC and HyuN to San and Alicia/Revival but frankly I don't think the skill level is that different. Heck overall I think San is a stronger player than MC these days.


WCS EU showed us that MC is probably still better than San.


...I really don't think it's as simple as "MMA beat San in one Bo5 and MC beat MMA in one Bo7 so MC is obviously better than San."

* Aligulac currently ranks San #2 in the world. MC is ranked #12 in the world.

* In head-to-head in HotS, San leads 6-3.

* San's all-time win % is 65%, MC's is 61%. But more importantly, in the games that are most relevant to figuring out how good they are now (only HotS games, only against other Koreans, and only offline), San has a 60% win percentage and MC has a 44% win percentage.

I would argue by objective measures San is almost clearly better than MC right now. San just hasn't been eating foreigners for breakfast for as many years as MC has so he doesn't have the cash and fame yet.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
April 16 2014 19:12 GMT
#58
Pragmatic decision by MC and HyuN cause of the higher prize money, slightly weaker competition and actually them being closer to Bucharest because they both reside in the GEM house in Germany.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 16 2014 20:36 GMT
#59
That sucks but it's understandable. Pretty happy to see San play so I guess it's ok for me
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 16 2014 20:41 GMT
#60
On April 17 2014 04:12 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Pragmatic decision by MC and HyuN cause of the higher prize money, slightly weaker competition and actually them being closer to Bucharest because they both reside in the GEM house in Germany.

yeah only "slightly weaker"
But it's an understandable decision for sure, a little bit lame nonetheless
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