• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:40
CEST 18:40
KST 01:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies18Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12
Community News
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League1Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 VPN experiences vespene.gg — BW replays in browser (Spoiler) ASL21 Winner's Interview [ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1501 users

One After Midnight - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
77 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 10 2014 11:51 GMT
#41
On April 10 2014 20:48 Daswollvieh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 20:27 yido wrote:
I'm so sick of this Korean vs the World mentality. Starcraft is a beautiful game, why can't people just appreciate the game for what it is and NOT for who plays it?


Because in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war.


Also, because stupid internet drama. Most people don't really give a shit either way, it's just a vocal minority that keeps posting this doomsaying everywhere in a non-constructive manner and I guess to some degree we're to blame as well for validating its existence with our responses.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
April 10 2014 12:15 GMT
#42
On April 10 2014 20:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 20:48 Daswollvieh wrote:
On April 10 2014 20:27 yido wrote:
I'm so sick of this Korean vs the World mentality. Starcraft is a beautiful game, why can't people just appreciate the game for what it is and NOT for who plays it?


Because in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war.


Also, because stupid internet drama. Most people don't really give a shit either way, it's just a vocal minority that keeps posting this doomsaying everywhere in a non-constructive manner and I guess to some degree we're to blame as well for validating its existence with our responses.


I think he was trying to be funny with his last post
Though I agree, the whole doom and gloom attitude of some people is stupid, the entire foreigners vs Korean thing is kind of stupid, but hell, it makes for a great read!
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 10 2014 12:20 GMT
#43
They are all capable of advancing, but if Welmu cannot stop San, then no one can.

P.S: Vamos Vortix!!!
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Sophisticado
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom42 Posts
April 10 2014 13:23 GMT
#44
Excellent piece of writing. I dare to believe
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 10 2014 13:27 GMT
#45
Stuchiu imba. Great write up. So hyped, gooooo vortix
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
vjcamarena
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain493 Posts
April 10 2014 13:53 GMT
#46
Excellent, excellent writeup. Vamos Vortix, go get 'em!
Mvp and ForGG! - Vortix FTW - Never forget Lucifron
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
April 10 2014 14:10 GMT
#47
My top 3 of the most likely finals :

VortiX vs San
VortiX vs MMA
jjakji vs MMA

My favourite for winning it all being San.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
April 10 2014 14:12 GMT
#48
Snute's win was already a victory as far as I'm concerned. I really don't think Welmu or Snute will make it to the Ro4, but I think Vortix has a realistic chance of winning
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
April 10 2014 14:14 GMT
#49
If Welmu wins, I'll switch to Finland.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 14:21:39
April 10 2014 14:20 GMT
#50
Frankly if a foreigner wins this tournament, I'll be completely shocked.

The best foreigners are as good as many Koreans. But when there is eight great players, and five are Korean and three aren't, even if those three are as good as Koreans, pure chance favors the Koreans. And with that being said, I'd say they have the edge in skill too.

Is there anyone out there who still defends Blizzard's decision not to lock WCS regions?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 14:25:42
April 10 2014 14:23 GMT
#51
On April 10 2014 23:20 BronzeKnee wrote:
Frankly if a foreigner wins this tournament, I'll be completely shocked.

The best foreigners are as good as many Koreans. But when there is eight great players, and five are Korean and three aren't, even if those three are as good as Koreans, pure chance favors the Koreans. And with that being said, I'd say they have the edge in skill too.

Is there anyone out there who still defends Blizzard's decision not to lock WCS regions?

yes there are plenty of arguments speaking for it. No need to discuss it once again.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
ShadowPie
Profile Joined January 2014
Sweden19 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 14:33:01
April 10 2014 14:25 GMT
#52
I really really love these writeups!! They build up soo much hype EU fighting!

And i think Blizzard made the absolute best decision possible regarding the soft region-lock. They cant very well kick out all the koreans that have already qualified. Even if they could i prefer a ro8 like this, with the foreigners vs koreans. It makes it alot more exciting since you know that the winner is really really good.

The AM region will take some time to stabilize around a decent balance since so many koreans were already in challenger league. However with a maximum of 2 koreans added to CL each season the amount of koreans should decrease since there is a high probability that they eliminate each other in CL. Also there is talk about offline PL like in GSL. That would make it a huge investment for koreans to participate. (unless their tickets from korea get paid, does anyone know if that is the case?)
Gouka
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil11 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 14:38:03
April 10 2014 14:36 GMT
#53
On April 10 2014 15:41 stuchiu wrote:
Do we dare believe?


I do! I'm already on the hype! VortiX v Snute on WCS EU Season 1 Finals! #LivingTheDream
JinAir sOs
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3763 Posts
April 10 2014 15:01 GMT
#54
Considering Koreans already won 5 tournaments (4 if you don't count GSL), shouldn't it be "5 after midnight"?
GrayFox90
Profile Joined January 2013
Malaysia23 Posts
April 10 2014 17:21 GMT
#55
OMG IMBA ARTICLE!!! XD Good job guys I looooove the article =)
There is only one good: knowledge, and one evil: ignorance.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
April 10 2014 17:40 GMT
#56
On April 10 2014 20:27 yido wrote:
I'm so sick of this Korean vs the World mentality. Starcraft is a beautiful game, why can't people just appreciate the game for what it is and NOT for who plays it?

That is the biggest problem with sc2 people and Blizzard did a big mistake with sc2 game itself (exactly the same with Diablo3). Apparently the game isn't beautiful enough to have the passion for this game. D2:LoD, WC3 and SC:BW were pretty differently.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 17:47:44
April 10 2014 17:46 GMT
#57
^ lol. seems like I'm not the only one that was thinking of this:

I could never understand this whole foreigner aspect. I mean, it's cool that people cheer for their countrymen and I do it all the time too but the constant 'will a foreigner finally win?' seems overplayed at this point. I guess this puts me in the 'best player wins' category then lol. Also, watch as Snute, Welmu and Vortix all end up crashing out of WCS EU leaving an RO4 with only Koreans lol. Good write-up though
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
linkhimura
Profile Joined March 2014
Argentina231 Posts
April 10 2014 18:29 GMT
#58
Well, I think the foreign dream is still alive, we have a lot of good players, but it's too bad seeing that these players are the ones carrying the dream now.

Seeing them makes me believe that teh urn is daed u.u
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
April 10 2014 19:03 GMT
#59
jjakji > San in the finals. Sorry Europe, just no way you can take down jjakji.
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3763 Posts
April 10 2014 19:24 GMT
#60
On April 11 2014 04:03 jakethesnake wrote:
jjakji > San in the finals. Sorry Europe, just no way you can take down jjakji.

If Snute was able to beat him in group stage and TLO in Seatstory, I don't see why it is impossible for VortiX
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#53
RotterdaM664
TKL 278
IndyStarCraft 69
BRAT_OK 37
SteadfastSC13
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 664
Ryung 456
TKL 278
mouzHeroMarine 167
ProTech91
Railgan 83
IndyStarCraft 69
UpATreeSC 48
BRAT_OK 37
SteadfastSC 13
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 54930
Calm 2348
Jaedong 522
ggaemo 406
actioN 367
Hyuk 353
firebathero 238
BeSt 221
Nal_rA 139
Sharp 120
[ Show more ]
Rush 96
Mong 89
Mind 66
Sea.KH 56
Barracks 56
scan(afreeca) 44
Terrorterran 29
soO 25
Movie 23
Sexy 22
Rock 21
HiyA 16
IntoTheRainbow 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Counter-Strike
fl0m689
byalli604
allub381
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor106
Other Games
Grubby2858
FrodaN1337
hiko991
Dendi781
B2W.Neo718
Beastyqt530
ceh9381
Hui .266
KnowMe173
XaKoH 150
ArmadaUGS127
Liquid`VortiX100
Trikslyr60
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL746
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 11
• Hinosc 4
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos3260
• Nemesis2328
• Stunt378
Other Games
• WagamamaTV373
• Shiphtur234
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 20m
Kung Fu Cup
18h 20m
GSL
1d 16h
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
Maestros of the Game
4 days
IPSL
4 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.