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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 10 2014 11:51 GMT
#41
On April 10 2014 20:48 Daswollvieh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 20:27 yido wrote:
I'm so sick of this Korean vs the World mentality. Starcraft is a beautiful game, why can't people just appreciate the game for what it is and NOT for who plays it?


Because in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war.


Also, because stupid internet drama. Most people don't really give a shit either way, it's just a vocal minority that keeps posting this doomsaying everywhere in a non-constructive manner and I guess to some degree we're to blame as well for validating its existence with our responses.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
April 10 2014 12:15 GMT
#42
On April 10 2014 20:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 20:48 Daswollvieh wrote:
On April 10 2014 20:27 yido wrote:
I'm so sick of this Korean vs the World mentality. Starcraft is a beautiful game, why can't people just appreciate the game for what it is and NOT for who plays it?


Because in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war.


Also, because stupid internet drama. Most people don't really give a shit either way, it's just a vocal minority that keeps posting this doomsaying everywhere in a non-constructive manner and I guess to some degree we're to blame as well for validating its existence with our responses.


I think he was trying to be funny with his last post
Though I agree, the whole doom and gloom attitude of some people is stupid, the entire foreigners vs Korean thing is kind of stupid, but hell, it makes for a great read!
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 10 2014 12:20 GMT
#43
They are all capable of advancing, but if Welmu cannot stop San, then no one can.

P.S: Vamos Vortix!!!
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Sophisticado
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom42 Posts
April 10 2014 13:23 GMT
#44
Excellent piece of writing. I dare to believe
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 10 2014 13:27 GMT
#45
Stuchiu imba. Great write up. So hyped, gooooo vortix
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
vjcamarena
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain493 Posts
April 10 2014 13:53 GMT
#46
Excellent, excellent writeup. Vamos Vortix, go get 'em!
Mvp and ForGG! - Vortix FTW - Never forget Lucifron
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
April 10 2014 14:10 GMT
#47
My top 3 of the most likely finals :

VortiX vs San
VortiX vs MMA
jjakji vs MMA

My favourite for winning it all being San.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
April 10 2014 14:12 GMT
#48
Snute's win was already a victory as far as I'm concerned. I really don't think Welmu or Snute will make it to the Ro4, but I think Vortix has a realistic chance of winning
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
April 10 2014 14:14 GMT
#49
If Welmu wins, I'll switch to Finland.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5225 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 14:21:39
April 10 2014 14:20 GMT
#50
Frankly if a foreigner wins this tournament, I'll be completely shocked.

The best foreigners are as good as many Koreans. But when there is eight great players, and five are Korean and three aren't, even if those three are as good as Koreans, pure chance favors the Koreans. And with that being said, I'd say they have the edge in skill too.

Is there anyone out there who still defends Blizzard's decision not to lock WCS regions?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 14:25:42
April 10 2014 14:23 GMT
#51
On April 10 2014 23:20 BronzeKnee wrote:
Frankly if a foreigner wins this tournament, I'll be completely shocked.

The best foreigners are as good as many Koreans. But when there is eight great players, and five are Korean and three aren't, even if those three are as good as Koreans, pure chance favors the Koreans. And with that being said, I'd say they have the edge in skill too.

Is there anyone out there who still defends Blizzard's decision not to lock WCS regions?

yes there are plenty of arguments speaking for it. No need to discuss it once again.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
ShadowPie
Profile Joined January 2014
Sweden19 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 14:33:01
April 10 2014 14:25 GMT
#52
I really really love these writeups!! They build up soo much hype EU fighting!

And i think Blizzard made the absolute best decision possible regarding the soft region-lock. They cant very well kick out all the koreans that have already qualified. Even if they could i prefer a ro8 like this, with the foreigners vs koreans. It makes it alot more exciting since you know that the winner is really really good.

The AM region will take some time to stabilize around a decent balance since so many koreans were already in challenger league. However with a maximum of 2 koreans added to CL each season the amount of koreans should decrease since there is a high probability that they eliminate each other in CL. Also there is talk about offline PL like in GSL. That would make it a huge investment for koreans to participate. (unless their tickets from korea get paid, does anyone know if that is the case?)
Gouka
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil11 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 14:38:03
April 10 2014 14:36 GMT
#53
On April 10 2014 15:41 stuchiu wrote:
Do we dare believe?


I do! I'm already on the hype! VortiX v Snute on WCS EU Season 1 Finals! #LivingTheDream
JinAir sOs
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3772 Posts
April 10 2014 15:01 GMT
#54
Considering Koreans already won 5 tournaments (4 if you don't count GSL), shouldn't it be "5 after midnight"?
GrayFox90
Profile Joined January 2013
Malaysia23 Posts
April 10 2014 17:21 GMT
#55
OMG IMBA ARTICLE!!! XD Good job guys I looooove the article =)
There is only one good: knowledge, and one evil: ignorance.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
April 10 2014 17:40 GMT
#56
On April 10 2014 20:27 yido wrote:
I'm so sick of this Korean vs the World mentality. Starcraft is a beautiful game, why can't people just appreciate the game for what it is and NOT for who plays it?

That is the biggest problem with sc2 people and Blizzard did a big mistake with sc2 game itself (exactly the same with Diablo3). Apparently the game isn't beautiful enough to have the passion for this game. D2:LoD, WC3 and SC:BW were pretty differently.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 17:47:44
April 10 2014 17:46 GMT
#57
^ lol. seems like I'm not the only one that was thinking of this:

I could never understand this whole foreigner aspect. I mean, it's cool that people cheer for their countrymen and I do it all the time too but the constant 'will a foreigner finally win?' seems overplayed at this point. I guess this puts me in the 'best player wins' category then lol. Also, watch as Snute, Welmu and Vortix all end up crashing out of WCS EU leaving an RO4 with only Koreans lol. Good write-up though
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
linkhimura
Profile Joined March 2014
Argentina231 Posts
April 10 2014 18:29 GMT
#58
Well, I think the foreign dream is still alive, we have a lot of good players, but it's too bad seeing that these players are the ones carrying the dream now.

Seeing them makes me believe that teh urn is daed u.u
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
April 10 2014 19:03 GMT
#59
jjakji > San in the finals. Sorry Europe, just no way you can take down jjakji.
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3772 Posts
April 10 2014 19:24 GMT
#60
On April 11 2014 04:03 jakethesnake wrote:
jjakji > San in the finals. Sorry Europe, just no way you can take down jjakji.

If Snute was able to beat him in group stage and TLO in Seatstory, I don't see why it is impossible for VortiX
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