EPTNaniwa was loved and hated, and, as it goes on the internet, gets a lot of love and hate now too.
Anyway, decent interview.
NaNiwa 1 hour interview post-IEM - Page 5
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FuRRie
Belgium815 Posts
Naniwa was loved and hated, and, as it goes on the internet, gets a lot of love and hate now too. Anyway, decent interview. | ||
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kc2siq
United States319 Posts
On March 22 2014 16:18 Malphite wrote: I don't understand what all the hate is on thorin. IT'S CALLED AN OPINION. I think the USA is a crap place... same with india/haiti and other countries. It's his opinion. You guys want him to be PC and say "oh Poland is one of the best places to go" just like every other personality? This is why i don't watch CNN or any local news. People are brainwashed to like certain things and hate certain things. Trust me when i say this, Poland is crap compared to the UK. I would never go there. UK is one of the top tourist places in Europe, Poland is not. I'm not hating on poland, but it's just all opinions. That argument is a slippery slope and faulty. If you defend someone by saying its his opinion then by extension other people saying hateful stuff about thorin is just as valid because it's their opinion. The argument only really comes to play when the hate escalates into actual violence/harm rather than countering with more opinions. | ||
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herMan
Japan2057 Posts
It's pretty stupid to not watch somebody's contributions because of their personal opinions if they don't affect the content he's producing. This thread is about the interview, not about Thorin's views on Poland and its people. | ||
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Malphite
United States186 Posts
I had said that it's an opinion and people are hating him for saying the truth in his mind. You ever been to Poland? probably not so you don't know crap. I have family who are polish, my cousins are half polish, and trust me, they would never go back. Poland is a dumpster compared to the USA/Canada/Australia/Germany/UK. I never heard anyone say "Hey OMG I can't wait to travel europe and go to Poland!!!!". I backpacked Europe and went to spain/uk/germany/france... No one I talked to even talked about going to Poland. I don't even like Thorin but this is ridiculous. No one would have an issue if he had said Somolia/Haiti/ect..... | ||
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
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kc2siq
United States319 Posts
On March 22 2014 16:59 Malphite wrote: Where is the defending?? I had said that it's an opinion and people are hating him for saying the truth in his mind. You ever been to Poland? probably not so you don't know crap. I have family who are polish, my cousins are half polish, and trust me, they would never go back. Poland is a dumpster compared to the USA/Canada/Australia/Germany/UK. I never heard anyone say "Hey OMG I can't wait to travel europe and go to Poland!!!!". I backpacked Europe and went to spain/uk/germany/france... No one I talked to even talked about going to Poland. I don't even like Thorin but this is ridiculous. No one would have an issue if he had said Somolia/Haiti/ect..... Look dude, I'm saying people hating on him are also saying the truth in their minds based on your argument. P.S. I've actually been to Poland. Didn't like it, but I've also been to way worse places so who knows. EDIT: And seriously, if you can accept that Thorin can have his own opinion, why can't you accept that other people can have opinions contradicting Thorin's? Both Thorin's and others hating on him are equally valid. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
edit : and the interview was awful, but that's just consistent with sc2 interviews in general. | ||
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robson1
3632 Posts
On March 22 2014 17:18 Boonbag wrote: I think that thorin dude should consider filling the void within his own brain before thinking about poland's. edit : and the interview was awful, but that's just consistent with sc2 interviews in general. elaborate. Why was the interview awful in your opinion | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
On March 22 2014 16:59 Malphite wrote: Where is the defending?? I had said that it's an opinion and people are hating him for saying the truth in his mind. You ever been to Poland? probably not so you don't know crap. I have family who are polish, my cousins are half polish, and trust me, they would never go back. Poland is a dumpster compared to the USA/Canada/Australia/Germany/UK. I never heard anyone say "Hey OMG I can't wait to travel europe and go to Poland!!!!". I backpacked Europe and went to spain/uk/germany/france... No one I talked to even talked about going to Poland. I don't even like Thorin but this is ridiculous. No one would have an issue if he had said Somolia/Haiti/ect..... Are you trying to defend the opinion or not? Because by validating it with your own experience, it sounds like you are... Either way, I will say this - while Thorin is entitled to his opinions, he is not entitled to represent an organization while offending the audience, employees, and owners of that organization. People can agree with his harsh review of Poland but it is a fact that many people were also offended by it. He essentially called them backwards in four different ways. It is worth noting that he is factually incorrect. By the UN's Human Development Index, Poland ranks in the top quartile, labeled "very high human development". While it is lower than most European countries, it is hardly an undeveloped country. Notably, the UK is also in the bottom half of European countries. It also has more tourists than any other EU country except (in order) France, Germany, Austria, and the UK. Ironically, Poland gets more tourists every year than Korea, for what that's worth (although Europeans travel far more within Europe than Asians do within Asia). | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On March 22 2014 17:23 robson1 wrote: elaborate. Why was the interview awful in your opinion Because it's boring ? 1 hour ? Guys have nothing to say really, or rather, its pretty un interesting. It's like you listen to some people talking about something they know / do for a living, but they sound like they have no clue about it. And naniwa posing with the leather jacket like hes some kind of rockstar is meh. Also the way that shit interviewer everytime he ends a question just puts his hand in front of his mouth is so childish and unprofessional. It's just overall you clearly see these two kids have 0 education whatsoever and that doesn't really make up for a good thing in a one hour long chat. And don't even get me started on the camera performance. Oh god. Esport professionalism at it's finest. edit : about people saying this guy is entitled to have an "opinion" on poland. You people realise poland is the country that suffered the most from WWII ? Every single word he said is about what a neo nazi would say about poland ; how in the world is that tolerable ? I mean his interview shouldn't even be posted here. | ||
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Girondelle
France969 Posts
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On March 22 2014 17:38 Boonbag wrote: Because it's boring ? 1 hour ? Guys have nothing to say really, or rather, its pretty un interesting. It's like you listen to some people talking about something they know / do for a living, but they sound like they have no clue about it. And naniwa posing with the leather jacket like hes some kind of rockstar is meh. Also the way that shit interviewer everytime he ends a question just puts his hand in front of his mouth is so childish and unprofessional. It's just overall you clearly see these two kids have 0 education whatsoever and that doesn't really make up for a good thing in a one hour long chat. And don't even get me started on the camera performance. Oh god. Esport professionalism at it's finest. edit : about people saying this guy is entitled to have an "opinion" on poland. You people realise poland is the country that suffered the most from WWII ? Every single word he said is about what a neo nazi would say about poland ; how in the world is that tolerable ? I mean his interview shouldn't even be posted here. TL Fashion Police has arrived! | ||
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
On March 22 2014 16:18 Malphite wrote: I don't understand what all the hate is on thorin. IT'S CALLED AN OPINION. I think the USA is a crap place... same with india/haiti and other countries. It's his opinion. You guys want him to be PC and say "oh Poland is one of the best places to go" just like every other personality? This is why i don't watch CNN or any local news. People are brainwashed to like certain things and hate certain things. Trust me when i say this, Poland is crap compared to the UK. I would never go there. UK is one of the top tourist places in Europe, Poland is not. I'm not hating on poland, but it's just all opinions. No, there is no need to be extremely politically correct. But being rude and ignorant isnt acceptable in any shape or form. If you think the country you live in is "crap", along with India (a country I originate from and have been to many times) I find your statement ignorant. What is your measure of a country being "crap"? Are there certain aspects you dont enjoy? Sure its your opinion, but then my opinion is that just because you have a right to say your opinion, doesnt mean you have to spew hate and ungratefulness and expect everyone to be cool with your "opinion". Personally, every country I have visited has its pro and cons. I am grateful for what I have and for what the country I live in has afforded me. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
just looks awkward thats it and i like esports uniform gallore | ||
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
On March 22 2014 16:59 Malphite wrote: Where is the defending?? I had said that it's an opinion and people are hating him for saying the truth in his mind. You ever been to Poland? probably not so you don't know crap. I have family who are polish, my cousins are half polish, and trust me, they would never go back. Poland is a dumpster compared to the USA/Canada/Australia/Germany/UK. I never heard anyone say "Hey OMG I can't wait to travel europe and go to Poland!!!!". I backpacked Europe and went to spain/uk/germany/france... No one I talked to even talked about going to Poland. I don't even like Thorin but this is ridiculous. No one would have an issue if he had said Somolia/Haiti/ect..... My friend....what are you saying? Judging by your grammar and dubious spelling mistakes which I am trying to look past, you have dumped your opinion on us and trying to justify Thorin's opinion by saying it is an opinion and then shoving your own opinion in there (Grade A kindergarden logic there, cant argue with that). So here is mine: If someone has a blatant opinion, and another person responds with his own opinion - whats the problem? Thorin is a journalist and came with some controversial statements. Obviously people are going to come with their own opinions - along with defending their own countries or ideas/emotions. Why are you getting excited? You have backpacked through Europe, so you have your perspective on Poland (and apparently India and Haiti/"Somolia"). And that's cool. I like Poland having been there several times and enjoying the atmosphere in Gdansk (a beatiful University town) along with Krakow. Amazing places for sure! Some of the regions and people are still scarred from WW2, but there are still areas and people which are amazing. I know people who would never leave Poland, and people who are desperate to get out of Poland. Different strokes for different folks. And btw it is spelled Somalia. Perhaps you would consider spelling it correctly before you comment on an entire nation. | ||
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Ludwigvan
Germany2371 Posts
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On March 22 2014 16:18 Malphite wrote: I don't understand what all the hate is on thorin. IT'S CALLED AN OPINION. I think the USA is a crap place... same with india/haiti and other countries. It's his opinion. You guys want him to be PC and say "oh Poland is one of the best places to go" just like every other personality? This is why i don't watch CNN or any local news. People are brainwashed to like certain things and hate certain things. Trust me when i say this, Poland is crap compared to the UK. I would never go there. UK is one of the top tourist places in Europe, Poland is not. I'm not hating on poland, but it's just all opinions. No one says he is not entitled to his opinion. They're saying he is not entitled to work for IEM when expressing an opinion that could be damaging and embarrassing for the company's reputation. | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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robson1
3632 Posts
Every single word he said is about what a neo nazi would say about poland ; how in the world is that tolerable ? I mean his interview shouldn't even be posted here No it's not, you need to get a history lesson, and shouldn't call other people uneducated, when you're basically calling them neo-nazis without even knowing what the nazi agenda was/is. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On March 22 2014 17:38 Boonbag wrote: Because it's boring ? 1 hour ? Guys have nothing to say really, or rather, its pretty un interesting. It's like you listen to some people talking about something they know / do for a living, but they sound like they have no clue about it. And naniwa posing with the leather jacket like hes some kind of rockstar is meh. Also the way that shit interviewer everytime he ends a question just puts his hand in front of his mouth is so childish and unprofessional. It's just overall you clearly see these two kids have 0 education whatsoever and that doesn't really make up for a good thing in a one hour long chat. And don't even get me started on the camera performance. Oh god. Esport professionalism at it's finest. edit : about people saying this guy is entitled to have an "opinion" on poland. You people realise poland is the country that suffered the most from WWII ? Every single word he said is about what a neo nazi would say about poland ; how in the world is that tolerable ? I mean his interview shouldn't even be posted here. "It's a bad interview because it's an hour and I didn't like it and I didn't like the jacket Naniwa wore or Thorin's hand gestures." | ||
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