EPTHopefully Taeja doesn't retire. He should know the meta game can be prone to wild swings in balance as new strategies are discovered. Back in wings he was one of the worst abusers of the 1-1-1 all in and made money because of it. Blizzard took a long time to nerf that build and they took alot less time weakening the blink all in
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
Hopefully Taeja doesn't retire. He should know the meta game can be prone to wild swings in balance as new strategies are discovered. Back in wings he was one of the worst abusers of the 1-1-1 all in and made money because of it. Blizzard took a long time to nerf that build and they took alot less time weakening the blink all in | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On March 16 2014 12:31 Orcasgt24 wrote: Avilo's twitter is a gold mine of whine hahaha Hopefully Taeja doesn't retire. He should know the meta game can be prone to wild swings in balance as new strategies are discovered. Back in wings he was one of the worst abusers of the 1-1-1 all in and made money because of it. Blizzard took a long time to nerf that build and they took alot less time weakening the blink all in Are you confusing taeja for puma? ._. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
I'm pretty sure he is lol. NASL, puma won against MC and used lots of 1-1-1s in the process. Taeja was still on SlayerS at the time or maybe still playing those korean weekly. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On March 16 2014 12:54 BigFan wrote: I'm pretty sure he is lol. NASL, puma won against MC and used lots of 1-1-1s in the process. Taeja was still on SlayerS at the time or maybe still playing those korean weekly. Not confusing Puma and Taeja. Puma was the biggest abuser. | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
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GinDo
3327 Posts
On March 16 2014 13:05 aZealot wrote: To be fair though, 1-1-1 was a long time ago. And eventually solved by P players and bigger maps and a nudge from the Immortal. It's power in WOL never wholly went away though, it was just less effective. It might return with the new mines too. Hopefully. My TvP record needs it.  | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
My PvT doesn't! It's round about 40% and has been lower this season. :D | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On March 16 2014 13:05 aZealot wrote: To be fair though, 1-1-1 was a long time ago. And eventually solved by P players and bigger maps and a nudge from the Immortal. It's power in WOL never wholly went away though, it was just less effective. It might return with the new mines too. At the pro level, 1-1-1s became a niche build to surprise opponents while blink all-ins are STILL very common after nerf. And with PO, I don't really see 1-1-1s behind viable. | ||
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FT.aCt)Sony
United States1049 Posts
On March 16 2014 12:48 Clbull wrote: David Kim's quote on how his team prefers not to make big changes because player careers are on the line seems awfully ironic now. His team makes changes? On topic - Taeja will be missed by many, best luck in future endeavors. | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
On March 16 2014 13:20 vthree wrote: At the pro level, 1-1-1s became a niche build to surprise opponents while blink all-ins are STILL very common after nerf. And with PO, I don't really see 1-1-1s behind viable. It's been two weeks since the patch, dude. Too soon for T pros to figure out and refine robust builds. (Also, personally, I don't want to see blink all-ins nerfed out of the game.) As to a future 1-1-1 variant of Marines, Mines and Banshees, we'll have to see. | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
sOs was way behind from dithering around with his opening and almost won, though that was largely to Taeja gifting 4 vikings. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On March 16 2014 12:54 BigFan wrote: I'm pretty sure he is lol. NASL, puma won against MC and used lots of 1-1-1s in the process. Taeja was still on SlayerS at the time or maybe still playing those korean weekly. actually Puma didn't use the 1-1-1 vs MC. He used it in season 2 finals to beat Hero. I miss Puma. My favorite Korean ever. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 16 2014 12:48 Clbull wrote: David Kim's quote on how his team prefers not to make big changes because player careers are on the line seems awfully ironic now. I don't think David Kim or losing to protoss had anything to do with the tweet. Taeja likely would have tweeted the same thing no matter who or how he lost in the last game, to zerg, protoss or terran. It has more to do with not getting $100,000. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On March 16 2014 13:24 aZealot wrote: It's been two weeks since the patch, dude. Too soon for T pros to figure out and refine robust builds. (Also, personally, I don't want to see blink all-ins nerfed out of the game.) As to a future 1-1-1 variant of Marines, Mines and Banshees, we'll have to see. Yes, patch has been 2 weeks, so maybe we should wait to see what the pros bring out instead of suggesting what builds 'might' be viable. The whole crux of the 1-1-1 was to get tanks in range of the Nexus and defend those tanks with marines and banshees. This doesn't really work when PO out ranges the tank. And saying 1-1-1 retained its effectiveness when it was pretty gone from pro play seems very biased. Hell, blink all-ins (with obs) was more common than 1-1-1 in the second half of obs. So even if MSC was attached to a Nexus, blink all-ins would still be in the game, just less effective. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On March 16 2014 12:57 Orcasgt24 wrote: Not confusing Puma and Taeja. Puma was the biggest abuser. you didn't give a name in your post other than Taeja so reading it, it looks like you are saying Taeja is the abuser lol. On March 16 2014 13:32 jmbthirteen wrote: actually Puma didn't use the 1-1-1 vs MC. He used it in season 2 finals to beat Hero. I miss Puma. My favorite Korean ever. hmm didn't he use it at least once versus MC? I know the 5th game was a macro one, possible 3rd or 4th but I just feel that he used it once in that series. Could be wrong though lol. | ||
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TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
On March 16 2014 13:44 Scarecrow wrote: Either announce your retirement or not, emo tweeting after losing is lame Honestly it sounds like retiring might be the best thing for him. It really doesn't seem like he enjoys the lifestyle that much, regardless of how balance could potentially be. It would be sad to see him go, but I wouldn't hold it against him if he wanted to move on in his life and start healing his wrists. | ||
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
On March 16 2014 13:44 Scarecrow wrote: Either announce your retirement or not, emo tweeting after losing is lame He's been wanting to retire for a while now... not just because of these games today... | ||
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