According to Daily Esports, the contract between Bomber and Startale will end on the 31st of December, 2013.
Startale Coach Won, Jong Wook says "I want to say thank you to Bomber who has devoted for the team. I wish him to achieve in the new environment, America. Even though he leaves, we will always cheer for him for he always does his best"
Bomber now looking for his new team. If a team is interested, they can contact to Bomber now. It was known that he is going to participate in the "Ladder Wildcard Qualifier" for the next WCS NA season.
Additionally, RedBull, long time sponsor of Startale, posted an interview with Bomber.
You have been a member of StarTale for quite some time and we know you have a very close relationship with the coaches and players, how hard of a decision was it to leave?
This was really tough choice but I only have one to two years left before I join the military so I want to focus more on traveling and competing in tournaments outside of Korea.
You have been on Team StarTale since 2010, what was your favorite memory from your time with them?
Living and practicing with all those guys was great, but the best memory I have was probably the GSTL Finals at the 2012 IPL event in Las Vegas.
So as of now you don’t have a team to play for, what are your plans?
I think it'd be pretty cool if I could have my own team, be a player and a coach.
Oh really? If you can pick two Koreans and two Foreigners to be on your team who would they be?
The top two foreigners in StarCraft II are NaNiwa and Scarlett so for sure I’d pick them. For Koreans I’d have to pick two of my old teammates, Life and Hack.
Looks like the new year is going to bring a lot of changes, especially with you moving to WCS North America.
On December 30 2013 10:39 MCXD wrote: Bomber is on the verge of entering the military is he not? Whoever picks him up, it would be a short term investment.
I am pretty sure Bomber already has a deal in place with another team. He has been on Startale so long. Maybe team Redbull will form with Bomber at the core.
wonder how the situation with Bomber and Redbull is going to pan out. Strange for him to leave the team that they sponsor while they personally sponsor.
I think it would be cool if EG picked him up, it would definitely be great for him as he's trying to focus on American tournaments it seems. I doubt EG is willing to spend the money though.
On December 30 2013 10:53 WhizPower wrote: I think it would be cool if EG picked him up, it would definitely be great for him as he's trying to focus on American tournaments it seems. I doubt EG is willing to spend the money though.
They'd also most likely have to look at how RedBull is going to handle his personal sponsorship ontop of their own Monster sponsorship which would be conflicting if they both kept up I believe.
On December 30 2013 10:53 WhizPower wrote: I think it would be cool if EG picked him up, it would definitely be great for him as he's trying to focus on American tournaments it seems. I doubt EG is willing to spend the money though.
They'd also most likely have to look at how RedBull is going to handle his personal sponsorship ontop of their own Monster sponsorship which would be conflicting if they both kept up I believe.
Wasn't his RedBull sponsorship just through StarTale?
Hello! Today I have decided to split with startale and i become a Free agent now I,m looking for new team If you want to contract me E-mail : nspfancy@naver.com SKype : startalebomber
On December 30 2013 10:39 MCXD wrote: Bomber is on the verge of entering the military is he not? Whoever picks him up, it would be a short term investment.
In a year iirc
Even two years, as i remember.
Hope he won't join any team tbh, personal sponsorship by Red Bull is nuff, i guess. Having guy with one of the biggest fanbases nowdays is big promotion for Red Bull. But if he joins someone, i hope it will be [A] :D Acer have stacked terran lineup already, EG have nuff with JYP and JD (even if Terran Korean is logic signup)...Team Liquid? :D But after mouz got Dear, i guess it's better for not expecting anything. My bet is on Axiom. Just for lulz.
It's a bit shocking if he left StarTale without having at least a verbal agreement with another team or sponsor... I suspect this "looking for a new team" is just him trying to boost his salary (not that I have anything against that).
I'm a bit worried for StarTale now though; losing their captain and most consistent top player of 2013 is going to hurt. Their roster is not as deep as it once was...
For those of you who are saying shit like "Wow unexpected...", it has been known for a long time now that he will be going into military service soon, and this season was going to be his last. Red Bull had an article about him on their website talking about how the last Red Bull Tournament would be his last chance at a championship. So there's really nothing too sudden about this at all. It's been planned for a while.
Edit: Unless something has changed since then... But the Red Bull article made it seem like he was done after this year.
On December 30 2013 11:42 MichaelDonovan wrote: For those of you who are saying shit like "Wow unexpected...", it has been known for a long time now that he will be going into military service soon, and this season was going to be his last. Red Bull had an article about him on their website talking about how the last Red Bull Tournament would be his last chance at a championship. So there's really nothing too sudden about this at all. It's been planned for a while.
no, he still has at least a year, RBBG was definitely not his last chance.
this is probably a great move for Bomber. He's clearly one of the top players in the world, and should be able to obtain the best possible free agent contract on the open market.
Stop with the military crap. He said multiple times on stream that he has potentially 2 years left to play if he wants to, and is gonna definitely play at least throughout 2014.
Startale still have Curious, hugely improved Hack and Life who can provide any result. And ofc some new prodigies, about which we have no idea just now. Also they have successful DotA 2 squad so they're still in good shape.
On December 30 2013 11:42 LessPewPewMoarQQ wrote: ;_; why Bomber? Startale has lost so many amazing players...
PartinG, Squirtle, FruitDealer, Rainbow and Golden? Not so many.
If I counted correctly, StarTale has had 13 players reach Code S in the past. Of those, only 3 remain (Life, Curious, Hack). 4 if SuHoSin's still playing.
On December 30 2013 11:42 LessPewPewMoarQQ wrote: ;_; why Bomber? Startale has lost so many amazing players...
PartinG, Squirtle, FruitDealer, Rainbow and Golden? Not so many.
If I counted correctly, StarTale has had 13 players reach Code S in the past. Of those, only 3 remain (Life, Curious, Hack). 4 if SuHoSin's still playing.
If we gonna count EVERY guy who reached Code S as "amazing" player, we will have more "amazing" players than just strong players.
Definitely unexpected. I had a feeling he would be retiring soon for his military service, but I didn't expect him to to leave Startale for a new team.
i could definitely see him just having an individual sponsor like polt and violet. i think a lot of teams would probably falling all over to sign him IF he didn't have to go to military in a year (i heard he could possibly put that off for a couple more years or something though).
On December 30 2013 12:09 Diaresta wrote: Definitely unexpected. I had a feeling he would be retiring soon for his military service, but I didn't expect him to to leave Startale for a new team.
Good luck, Bomber!
He said earlier this month he still has one more year before his miliraty service duty.
wow, feel so bipolar about this... i want to see bomber on a foreign team but i'd rather watching him compete on a korean only stage. but if he does come to the states that means, he'll go to more foreign tournies, but if he comes to the states there's a chance he'll end up on an up and coming team that wont be able to grow their own talents
Good for Bomber man, it sounds like this is something that he really wanted to do, and with Military Service coming up on the horizon he wants to travel around the world competing at tournaments that he wants to do without the restrictions of a Korean team. Hopefully a good team will pick him up even though it's a short term investment. Who knows maybe if he enjoys it so much he can get a visa and end up staying or even come back after the military. Oh well, glad to see him doing something that he wants to do, hope it all works out for him!
On December 30 2013 12:34 BronzeKnee wrote: If Startale shuts down, I'm going to be really upset. I've loved Startale since July was on the team, and we already lost fOU.
I also love Bomber, his series vs Idra at MLG Orlando is my favorite SC2 series of all-time. Good luck in WCS NA Bomber.
no way startale will shut down with red bulls support.
If he is to join another team, do you guys think it will be a foreign team? Foreign teams, as I recall, have the best salary for their players and are able to give their players more luxuries such as plane tickets to all types of tournaments etc.
I really hope it's not EG, but they have the money so they certainly could if they want to. I know they have had success with Jaedong and everything, but most of their players actually end up relaxing. That could quite possibly be attributed to the fact that EG doesn't have strict training regulations as compared to Korean teams. Jaedong just seems to be self-motivated, he's a unique case.
Since the SC2 scene is so volatile, getting two years from a popular player like Bomber can be considered as a long term investment for any top foreign team (mouz, liquid, quantic, axiom)
On December 30 2013 12:42 KenZee wrote: If he is to join another team, do you guys think it will be a foreign team? Foreign teams, as I recall, have the best salary for their players and are able to give their players more luxuries such as plane tickets to all types of tournaments etc.
I really hope it's not EG, but they have the money so they certainly could if they want to. I know they have had success with Jaedong and everything, but most of their players actually end up relaxing. That could quite possibly be attributed to the fact that EG doesn't have strict training regulations as compared to Korean teams. Jaedong just seems to be self-motivated, he's a unique case.
Ofc it is because Bomber wants to play in foreign tournaments a lot, like JD did last year and there's no reason to sign with KeSPA team because of strict schedule. And there are basically no teams in eSF left except of Azubu who're gonna die sooner or later.
RB_bomber, RB_life, RB_naniwa, RB_scarlett and all my dreams would come true throw that mad cash at it Redbull. just a couple of others and you got a sick PL team
On December 30 2013 13:07 SteveWoods wrote: I'm... surprised that GSTL was his favorite memory. I mean, that was the GSTL they lost to the remake when he was in a huge slump...
It was vegas and an IPL event. IPL treated the players like gods and spent ridiculous amounts of money showing the players a good time.
I wonder if EG knew of this, and it was a deciding factor in them not renewing oz, revival and alive's contracts? Assuming that is he ends up on EG.
Joining the military must be like having the wrath of damocles, hanging over you, especially if you're successful in your field prior to it. But as hero recently found out with kal... It doesn't have to be the end...
On December 30 2013 13:07 SteveWoods wrote: I'm... surprised that GSTL was his favorite memory. I mean, that was the GSTL they lost to the remake when he was in a huge slump...
The GSTL they lost because he manner muled when he was ahead vs. MKP lol.
On December 30 2013 14:04 Riner1212 wrote: everyone needs to calm down its not like as if hes retiring you idiots. -_-
no, he's not retiring, but he is switching teams after like 3 years. he had a lot of good moments with startale, and had a good amount of success. its naturally sad, as most of us thought he was a really great fit for startale. we are allowed to be disappointed/sad that he's leaving
On December 30 2013 12:34 BronzeKnee wrote: If Startale shuts down, I'm going to be really upset. I've loved Startale since July was on the team, and we already lost fOU.
I also love Bomber, his series vs Idra at MLG Orlando is my favorite SC2 series of all-time. Good luck in WCS NA Bomber.
no way startale will shut down with red bulls support.
Startale doesn't have much support from Red Bull, just Life and Bomber.
What will actually save them is that NSL money. Thanks Dota.
OT, but what exactly has esF done? I know they don't have the financial backing of Kespa's, but I'm kinda baffled that in all this time I've yet to hear anything come out of esF (outside of the Slayers drama).
On December 30 2013 11:26 Kluey wrote: EG won't pick up Bomber. He's with Redbull... LiquidBomber!
Must agree here. EG is already somewhat heavily loaded, and none of us see JD leaving anytime soon. However, Taeja has been vocal (on an inconsistent level I admit,) about retiring once he "makes it big"(paraphrase). Let's face it Taeja is BIG. So if Taeja is leaving within a few months, it could stand to reason that Bombalomb would be a perfect fit. Especially considering his inclination to play foreign tournaments.
On December 30 2013 12:42 KenZee wrote: If he is to join another team, do you guys think it will be a foreign team? Foreign teams, as I recall, have the best salary for their players and are able to give their players more luxuries such as plane tickets to all types of tournaments etc.
I really hope it's not EG, but they have the money so they certainly could if they want to. I know they have had success with Jaedong and everything, but most of their players actually end up relaxing. That could quite possibly be attributed to the fact that EG doesn't have strict training regulations as compared to Korean teams. Jaedong just seems to be self-motivated, he's a unique case.
I have nothing to back this up, as I can see neither did you KenZee. However, from my understanding from a few comments I've heard Rotterdam make and Wolf\Brendan, Korean teams pay a better salary, AND the cost of living is cheaper. However, to counterpoint that, foreign teams are willing to invest more money into flights\travel\housing abroad for fun foreign tournaments (which we all love!)
On December 30 2013 13:07 Canucklehead wrote: Redbull should start a team/personal sponsorship with just bomber and life on it and fly them to every foreign tournament.
In foreign e-sports, which caster has been fairly consistently allied to redbull????
Day[J] for the win. (After Hours Gaming League; Red Bull Training Grounds; Red Bull Battle Grounds)
I could see Day[9] crafting a team with Bomber, and Life and perhaps other recently released players.... Revival, Alive, Oz, etc... kind of in the style of Axiom and Total Biscuit.
Liquid never picked up players right at their top notch level. Whether it was HerO or Taeja. Nazgul picked them up before they were the powerhouses they are today.
Bomber is a great character and would fit in very nicely but i don`t think that Liquid is going to pick him up (even if i would love to see that).
I wonder who'll pick up him assuming he will retire in ~1 year. Don't see why any big korean team will be interested in him very much, there's enough of younger and not retiring talents.
Liquid, EG and Acer... Don't think so. Liquid never will sign a non zerg player ever again or so it seems, EG + Monster + RB = not gonna happen, besides they've got JD who's more popular and got much better results last year (and not retiring). And Acer got 2 top tier terrans already, who are not retiring as well. Axiom and Zombiezubu... don't think so either. Not sure of Axiom is interested in another player or can even afford it and Azubu got 9 players already, which is way too many.
Will be sad to see if some b-tier foreign team will get him though, he deserves more. But even if he will join any of those "why do they even exist?" teams (no names, so I won't start the flame war), I won't blame him. May as well get some easy cash if someone offer you that.
On December 30 2013 15:40 styLesdavis wrote: Liquid never picked up players right at their top notch level. Whether it was HerO or Taeja. Nazgul picked them up before they were the powerhouses they are today.
Bomber is a great character and would fit in very nicely but i don`t think that Liquid is going to pick him up (even if i would love to see that).
What about Snute? He was at his top notch level, came fresh of a Premier Tournament victory and was an established name in Europe for a long time.
Don`t see him joining Acer. They have two top notch terrans in Innovation and MMA. Why another one? Don`t see that coming.
What `bout Mouz? They`ve already signed a top player in Dear as a Protoss. Why not another Terran since Lucifron is currently not living up to his reputation.
On December 30 2013 16:11 HeyImFinn wrote: SKT1 Bomber?
I don't think so. He specifically said that he wants to play on foreign tournaments, most likely to maximize prize money before military service/retiring. SKT1 has sent his aces around a bit in the past, but not that much, and their focus is clearly in SK.
i would be suprised if he just retire now because he had a perfect career and everyone would know him as THE MVP terran that had always good results ( i dont want him to retire like bisu where he just left sc2 just because of no results)
On December 30 2013 10:39 MCXD wrote: Bomber is on the verge of entering the military, is he not? For whoever picks him up, it would be a short term investment.
Everybody is a short term investment with the exception of MC and Mvp who by some witchcraft manage to remain competitive and keep winning.
On December 30 2013 10:53 WhizPower wrote: I think it would be cool if EG picked him up, it would definitely be great for him as he's trying to focus on American tournaments it seems. I doubt EG is willing to spend the money though.
They'd also most likely have to look at how RedBull is going to handle his personal sponsorship ontop of their own Monster sponsorship which would be conflicting if they both kept up I believe.
Wasn't his RedBull sponsorship just through StarTale?
Bomber was personally sponsored by Redbull before they sponsored Startale
100% not EG. There is no way he gives up Red Bull sponsorship and he'd have to in order to join.
He's could be coming to America on a personal sponsorship. Like Polt. Or a new team (I'm somewhat exited about this real possibility. It would mean nearly enough foreign teams for a respectable pro-league style tournament.)
Well I don't know what to say.. this is like if Mvp would leave IM or something But nonetheless, good luck to Bomber! Edit: fuck, I'm almost crying here, will take some time to melt this
On December 30 2013 16:47 kaos00 wrote: 100% not EG. There is no way he gives up Red Bull sponsorship and he'd have to in order to join.
He's could be coming to America on a personal sponsorship. Like Polt. Or a new team (I'm somewhat exited about this real possibility. It would mean nearly enough foreign teams for a respectable pro-league style tournament.)
Liquid.Bomber u heard it here first folks! Nah, in all seriousness I think it would be really cool to see him as coach, but unrealisitic as he has to join the military soon. Would be awesome to see Acer pick him up :D
Sounds like this is something he wants to do and he feels its the right move, so im happy for him. Must have been a hard thing, leaving the team after all those years. I just hope he doesnt join EG.
On December 30 2013 17:00 Muffloe wrote: Well I don't know what to say.. this is like if Mvp would leave IM or something But nonetheless, good luck to Bomber! Edit: fuck, I'm almost crying here, will take some time to melt this
I fully understand you cuz i felt exactly the same.
Damn, I've been used to Startale Bomber for so long, its going to feel incredibly weird seeing him on any other team. I guess I can understand his decision, he wants to travel the world and have as much fun as he can before the military, I wish him the best of luck and hope he graces DH Bucharest with his presence!
I don't think that this will effect Startale's sponsorship, I was told by a friend who does graphics for RB that Startale is sponsored by Redbull KR, which I guess is different than "Redbull".
This is of course secondhand information but..ya know. Gossip.
RedBull.Bomber, hehe, tbh it was kind of expected ever since that strange blog post by one of Bomber's fans and reddit thread on screen of him saying about move to WCS NA.
On December 30 2013 19:26 ACrow wrote: This is really unexpected. Bomber is a focus athlete of RedBull, is he not? Doesn't make sense to leave the RedBull team Startale. Weird.
It makes sense if Startale didn't support Bomber's decision to go to WCS AM and more foreign tournaments, plus Red Bull is still going to support Bomber.
StarTale plz do not disband plz plz plz plz plz!!! Now StarTale is in a very bad situation with only 1 terran and 3 protoss (however I did not see any Booster games last couple of months). So the active roster is now 7 players ( Booster and SuHoSin are inactive according to last events) which is lesser any other korean team: Avenge Panic Hack Life Curious Pet Zero
Bombers out for your NA money :D It's a logical decision. If you have only a year left with progaming you should try to make as much money as possible and for Koreans that means going to as many foreign events as possible.
After such a long sponsorship from Red Bull it seems weird/unethical he'd want/would get on EG. There are a bunch of good teams but I think the fact that he himself said he wanted to start a team, means he might stay independant.
I doubt anyone will buy him, he must cost so much...maybe complexity or Fnatic but EG would never take him as they are sponsored by Monster, not by Redbull. Acer won't (as said by Kaoru on twitter). I think he will stay under Redbull sponsorship.
On December 30 2013 18:59 Ragnarork wrote: CMStorm.Bomber :3
Dat terran powerhouse sponsor that'd be !
Just please not EG. I'd still like to see him winning.
Bomber won close to nothing in the last few years. I only remember one big championship. Jaedong got more results the last year on EG as Bomber the last 2 years on ST. Not counting the smaller titles of HuK...
On December 30 2013 11:42 LessPewPewMoarQQ wrote: ;_; why Bomber? Startale has lost so many amazing players...
PartinG, Squirtle, FruitDealer, Rainbow and Golden? Not so many.
If I counted correctly, StarTale has had 13 players reach Code S in the past. Of those, only 3 remain (Life, Curious, Hack). 4 if SuHoSin's still playing.
If we gonna count EVERY guy who reached Code S as "amazing" player, we will have more "amazing" players than just strong players.
Woah, are you suggesting that suhosin is not the next god of starcraft?
On December 30 2013 18:59 Ragnarork wrote: CMStorm.Bomber :3
Dat terran powerhouse sponsor that'd be !
Just please not EG. I'd still like to see him winning.
Bomber won close to nothing in the last few years. I only remember one big championship. Jaedong got more results the last year on EG as Bomber the last 2 years on ST. Not counting the smaller titles of HuK...
EG hate going stupid these days...
Not as if he won the season 2 wcs finals. Got into ro4 of the wcs KR S2 and wcs global finals.
JD certainly had a better year than Bomber, but in the end it was still 1 world championship vs 0, and that's what will be in the records a couple of years from now. According to some interview recently, JD seems to consider himself still lacking that first big SC2 win.
On December 30 2013 18:59 Ragnarork wrote: CMStorm.Bomber :3
Dat terran powerhouse sponsor that'd be !
Just please not EG. I'd still like to see him winning.
Bomber won close to nothing in the last few years. I only remember one big championship. Jaedong got more results the last year on EG as Bomber the last 2 years on ST. Not counting the smaller titles of HuK...
EG hate going stupid these days...
I would like to return the compliment and say "EG Fanboyism going stupid these days". That's pretty early to assume things on how I think, but no, it's not because of the "EG curse" (note the quotes), but rather because of a personal feeling (and you can disagree with that without being rude) that Bomber on EG would be quite bad for him. Think of a mismatch, not "EG curse" or some other shit. I do know that Jaedong put some results in international tournaments, thanks for pointing it out (it's kind of obvious...). Though by your standards, Jaedong won close to nothing as well (even less than Bomber, still by your standards, not mine).
Then, Bomber has put results too, winning isn't just "grab 1st place" as you think it is (hint: it's not). Among those, winning a WCS Season Finals, multiple Ro8+ appearances, etc.
On December 30 2013 18:59 Ragnarork wrote: CMStorm.Bomber :3
Dat terran powerhouse sponsor that'd be !
Just please not EG. I'd still like to see him winning.
Bomber won close to nothing in the last few years. I only remember one big championship. Jaedong got more results the last year on EG as Bomber the last 2 years on ST. Not counting the smaller titles of HuK...
EG hate going stupid these days...
jaedong won one premier this year, bomber won a bigger one, beating jaedong 4-0 there. your points make little sense.
Aww, didn't see this coming.. Wasn't as much a Bomber fan (hate the Marines, lol) as much as I liked Startale as a team TBH.. like - Squirtle, July, Life, PartinG, Bomber.. --> those were the days of ST that are now long gone.. :/
However - hope it's not EG for eSports's sake.. Though aLive, Oz and Revival got released, still don't see good reason for him to be in EG.. ESPECIALLY cause of the sponsor's sake
who's on LYGF though ?? - like there are so many of you guys saying lygfBomber, but the wiki page says like nothing in particular on their current SC2 roster, what happened on the scene so rapidly for everyone to say so but isn't on the wiki itself.. ?
Not sure if I'd like Bomber on Liquid TBH either - would be such a dominance from them, not good for the audience in some ways.. --> Probably AxBomber would be best for the both worlds (eSports scene and the Sponsorships) ATM IMO
I really dont think any Terran is going to do well in 2014, most Proleague teams dont even use Terrans (except for KT) wich pretty much means Terran isnt doing well in the practice houses. And that doesnt come as any suprice.
However, if one Terran is going to make a mark on 2014 its going to be Bomber!! He really think in seperate paths from most Terrans so he can often give his opponents some suprices, wich it what it takes to win with Terran. Also, if that doesnt work, sometimes Bomber can completely utterly outmanouver his opponent and find a Win that way.
On December 31 2013 04:25 Emanuel ElGreno wrote: I really dont think any Terran is going to do well in 2014, most Proleague teams dont even use Terrans (except for KT) wich pretty much means Terran isnt doing well in the practice houses. And that doesnt come as any suprice.
However, if one Terran is going to make a mark on 2014 its going to be Bomber!! He really think in seperate paths from most Terrans so he can often give his opponents some suprices, wich it what it takes to win with Terran. Also, if that doesnt work, sometimes Bomber can completely utterly outmanouver his opponent and find a Win that way.
Bomber <3
The Reason is Protoss is stronger then Terran and doesn't need high apm like terran ( hi MSC). I would say the MSC is like the queen buff but for Protoss because you can play greedy and you cannot be punished.
On December 31 2013 04:25 Emanuel ElGreno wrote: I really dont think any Terran is going to do well in 2014, most Proleague teams dont even use Terrans (except for KT) wich pretty much means Terran isnt doing well in the practice houses. And that doesnt come as any suprice.
However, if one Terran is going to make a mark on 2014 its going to be Bomber!! He really think in seperate paths from most Terrans so he can often give his opponents some suprices, wich it what it takes to win with Terran. Also, if that doesnt work, sometimes Bomber can completely utterly outmanouver his opponent and find a Win that way.
Bomber <3
The Reason is Protoss is stronger then Terran and doesn't need high apm like terran ( hi MSC). I would say the MSC is like the queen buff but for Protoss because you can play greedy and you cannot be punished.
The reason is DK gave up his hands and not fixing that.. Like - there's Taeja and Bomber and that's a reason for him not to change.. Doubt that the scene would last much longer though - that might affect even the community's interest for LotV IMO as well
On December 30 2013 19:43 DiMano wrote: StarTale plz do not disband plz plz plz plz plz!!! Now StarTale is in a very bad situation with only 1 terran and 3 protoss (however I did not see any Booster games last couple of months). So the active roster is now 7 players ( Booster and SuHoSin are inactive according to last events) which is lesser any other korean team: Avenge Panic Hack Life Curious Pet Zero
Crazy. They used to have the largest roster in Korea.
On December 31 2013 04:38 Emanuel ElGreno wrote: Man, StarTale just cant hold on to their players. Would be best team in the World if they could somehow keep their guys!
PartinG Squirtle Bomber Life Curious
Who'd beat them?
Quite a few actually. Still nice to be able to produce players of that talent.
On December 31 2013 04:38 Emanuel ElGreno wrote: Man, StarTale just cant hold on to their players. Would be best team in the World if they could somehow keep their guys!
PartinG Squirtle Bomber Life Curious
Who'd beat them?
Quite a few actually. Still nice to be able to produce players of that talent.
I don't see any team except CJ and SKT beating that roster consistently. What teams do you have in mind?
Old ST was incredible, its unbelievable how they never managed to grab a team league win with that roster. Even now if you put it back together it would probably be scary. New ST is a shadow of its formers self now though.
On December 31 2013 06:26 Destructicon wrote: Old ST was incredible, its unbelievable how they never managed to grab a team league win with that roster. Even now if you put it back together it would probably be scary. New ST is a shadow of its formers self now though.
On December 31 2013 04:21 VArsovskiSC wrote: who's on LYGF though ?? - like there are so many of you guys saying lygfBomber, but the wiki page says like nothing in particular on their current SC2 roster, what happened on the scene so rapidly for everyone to say so but isn't on the wiki itself.. ?
They picked up Genius and Tassadar in rapid order and made several offers to free agents on the market (the fOu guys), at least that's what the rumor says. The team manager said in the recruitment threads that they want to make the jump into the bigger online team leagues and be competitive. That's where the buzz about them comes from right now
On December 30 2013 12:42 KenZee wrote: If he is to join another team, do you guys think it will be a foreign team? Foreign teams, as I recall, have the best salary for their players and are able to give their players more luxuries such as plane tickets to all types of tournaments etc.
I really hope it's not EG, but they have the money so they certainly could if they want to. I know they have had success with Jaedong and everything, but most of their players actually end up relaxing. That could quite possibly be attributed to the fact that EG doesn't have strict training regulations as compared to Korean teams. Jaedong just seems to be self-motivated, he's a unique case.
Ofc it is because Bomber wants to play in foreign tournaments a lot, like JD did last year and there's no reason to sign with KeSPA team because of strict schedule. And there are basically no teams in eSF left except of Azubu who're gonna die sooner or later.
Don't you think the strict schedule is what keeps the players in check? A good example of this is EG. Everyone always jokes about the EG curse and everything, but I think it's horrifyingly true. EG has a lax schedule and JD only succeeds because of self-motivation.
On December 31 2013 04:21 VArsovskiSC wrote: Aww, didn't see this coming.. Wasn't as much a Bomber fan (hate the Marines, lol) as much as I liked Startale as a team TBH.. like - Squirtle, July, Life, PartinG, Bomber.. --> those were the days of ST that are now long gone.. :/
However - hope it's not EG for eSports's sake.. Though aLive, Oz and Revival got released, still don't see good reason for him to be in EG.. ESPECIALLY cause of the sponsor's sake
who's on LYGF though ?? - like there are so many of you guys saying lygfBomber, but the wiki page says like nothing in particular on their current SC2 roster, what happened on the scene so rapidly for everyone to say so but isn't on the wiki itself.. ?
Not sure if I'd like Bomber on Liquid TBH either - would be such a dominance from them, not good for the audience in some ways.. --> Probably AxBomber would be best for the both worlds (eSports scene and the Sponsorships) ATM IMO
They have: Tassadar (fOu) Genius (AZUBU) StuN (FXO) DynaMite (FXO) Sia (NSH) MotoK (Eternity Gaming) Mamuri (SKT)
and a bunch of koreans without notable former teams
On December 30 2013 12:42 KenZee wrote: If he is to join another team, do you guys think it will be a foreign team? Foreign teams, as I recall, have the best salary for their players and are able to give their players more luxuries such as plane tickets to all types of tournaments etc.
I really hope it's not EG, but they have the money so they certainly could if they want to. I know they have had success with Jaedong and everything, but most of their players actually end up relaxing. That could quite possibly be attributed to the fact that EG doesn't have strict training regulations as compared to Korean teams. Jaedong just seems to be self-motivated, he's a unique case.
Ofc it is because Bomber wants to play in foreign tournaments a lot, like JD did last year and there's no reason to sign with KeSPA team because of strict schedule. And there are basically no teams in eSF left except of Azubu who're gonna die sooner or later.
Don't you think the strict schedule is what keeps the players in check? A good example of this is EG. Everyone always jokes about the EG curse and everything, but I think it's horrifyingly true. EG has a lax schedule and JD only succeeds because of self-motivation.
TL has an equally lax schedule, and that doesn't seem to stop Taeja and Hero. Alive and Revival probably had their best years in a long while as well.
The "EG Curse" has always been about people creating explanations and shaping their opinion of reality to match it. Sure, there are a lot of players that need a strict coach to keep them disciplined, but players very rarely reach the top levels unless they already have the self-motivated mentality.
On December 31 2013 04:21 VArsovskiSC wrote: Aww, didn't see this coming.. Wasn't as much a Bomber fan (hate the Marines, lol) as much as I liked Startale as a team TBH.. like - Squirtle, July, Life, PartinG, Bomber.. --> those were the days of ST that are now long gone.. :/
However - hope it's not EG for eSports's sake.. Though aLive, Oz and Revival got released, still don't see good reason for him to be in EG.. ESPECIALLY cause of the sponsor's sake
who's on LYGF though ?? - like there are so many of you guys saying lygfBomber, but the wiki page says like nothing in particular on their current SC2 roster, what happened on the scene so rapidly for everyone to say so but isn't on the wiki itself.. ?
Not sure if I'd like Bomber on Liquid TBH either - would be such a dominance from them, not good for the audience in some ways.. --> Probably AxBomber would be best for the both worlds (eSports scene and the Sponsorships) ATM IMO
They have: Tassadar (fOu) Genius (AZUBU) StuN (FXO) DynaMite (FXO) Sia (NSH) MotoK (Eternity Gaming) Mamuri (SKT)
and a bunch of koreans without notable former teams
I can't see Bomber joining EG, not if Redbull sponsors Bomber personally. I don't think Bomber would give up his sponsorship with Redbull for Monster energy. RootBomber perhaps? lol. Root doesn't have enough money for that.
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or even come back after the military. Oh well, glad to see him doing something that he wants to do, hope it all works out for him!
Booster and 
SuHoSin are inactive according to last events) which is lesser any other korean team:
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--> those were the days of ST that are now long gone.. :/
